What makes bread-and-butter economic issues relatively unappealing for Democrats?

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Why on Earth would Democrats want to exclude non-whites?

Because that’s where resistance to improving the general welfare of society has consistently come from: the hatred of many white voters of the idea that non-whites will benefit too. And those are the people you are talking about trying to appeal to.

I’ve never once heard a white conservative employee who is struggling to make ends meet on minimum wage say, “Well, I’d sure hate to get $14/hour instead of $7/hour if it means my black coworkers will get it too.”

Because explicitly saying it like that makes it obvious how stupid it is, so they don’t. But it’s been a central factor of American politics since at least the 1960s.

Yes, it’s an extremely silly idea. Normal person thinking is more like “I don’t earn minimum wage, and people I trust say it will result in higher prices and more unemployment, so I’ll oppose raising it”. And racism can absolutely play into this - it’s plausible that the reason the US doesn’t have much of a welfare state is that a majority of voters think it will mostly benefit people who aren’t like them: a different race, and/or recent immigrants. But that’s not hurting themselves to help others, it’s refusing to pay higher taxes to help others because you aren’t as sympathetic towards them, or can’t imagine yourself being in their situation.

That’s not how real life works. It is hurting themselves, in all sorts of ways; “no man is an island”, hurting large swathes of the population comes back to bite you one way or another. And costing them more money as well. We insist on doing things the more expensive way because it lets us hurt “them” more.

I’m afraid this is how real life works. Sometimes spending money on other people will indirectly benefit you, but it’s hardly guaranteed. Sometimes we just do it because it’s the right thing to do (or don’t do it at all).

And even when there are indirect benefits, it generally isn’t obvious, while the higher taxes you’re paying are.

I don’t expect to convince you, but since other people appear to share this odd idea: it’s far more common for people to be stupid and ungenerous than actively malicious.

Except that, again, it doesn’t lead to lower taxes. Right wingers willingly pay more for less because it means they can indulge their hate. Which is what they care about more than anything else.

Nope- since the dudes making the laws aint earning minimum wage.

But the people voting for them are often pretty poor. And hate there being a minimum wage in the first place since it helps “those people”.

Okay, I am gonna ask for a cite here.

For what? For many Republicans being poor? For them hating “socialism” and “big government” like the minimum wage?

For this-

The Dems walked away from labor completely in approximately when they did away with glass-steagal in ‘99 William Proxmire began campaigning for this in ‘93.
The Dems and Carter legalized stealing pension monies in revenue act of 1978.
The Dems then put their arms around all fringe groups to maintain a voter base. By fringe I mean single issue voter groups.
There has not been a labor party in America since early ‘80’s.
And during this time, public utilities were sold to private entities. Anyone recall when your gas and water bill were paid to the city.
Thatcher famous for privatizing public services in Great Britain.

As to the ACA, the republicans used to boast, “Not a single Republican voted for the ACA. That is called abstaining. It is not the same as fighting against a bill. Abstaining from the vote is what a legislator does when he has a conflict of interest. And you know the GOP loved the idea of requiring everyone to buy health insurance. When you cannot walk away, the rates go up and benefits go down.
HMO’s and PPO’s now bill like indemnity insurance but limit coverage and access to care as they always have.

Again. No labor party in America since ‘80’s.

If you look at blue states, the Democrats have been regularly raising the minimum wage ($14.70 in Oregon currently). I am guessing that the federal minimum wage can’t be raised without buy-in from many red state senators/representatives. Good luck with that.

In my small (20k) town, the water bill is, and always has been, paid to the city.

The gas bill has always been paid to the ‘Gas Company’. Kansas Gas Service is a public utility, a subsidiary of ONE Gas.

My water, sewer, garbage, and electricity are all paid to the city (Gillette, Wyoming). Gas is paid to a separate corporation.

Not true,.

That is not at all what the Revenue Act of 1978 - Wikipedia is about.

Cite?

Yeah, we solidly disproved that idea that the Dems havent worked for raising the Minimum wage- especially as they have done so.

Let’s say the thread title premise is true.

The answer to the thread title question could then be: Until today, there never, for Democrats, as politically appealing an economic issue as no toys for Chrstmas (excuse me, two toys). If there ever was a topic for an effective political advertisement, this is it.

I suppose Trump is trying to lower Christmas expectations, like a politician does before a debate.

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