# What makes Tom Brady such a great Quarterback?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 2, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637 "2015-02-02T20:53:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/81 "2015-02-06T22:03:11Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> Interesting list but IMO Brady ranks above the 4 other QBs there. Of the 4 QBs there in terms of overall greatness as a QB, for me it is:  
> Adding the 3 greatest ever to play the position it is:
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> Montana  
> Unitas  
> Brady  
> Manning  
> Graham  
> Tarkenton  
> Marino  
> Favre

Replace Tarkenton with Star and you got it pretty much right. And Rodgers will soon enter that top 10. Wish I could find the exact quote but Brady said that Aaron is playing QB better than anyone ever has.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/82 "2015-02-07T04:02:10Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Decent but not great. He never played with any truly great RB or receiver (save a depleted Moss). That’s impressive.

Moss had an incredible year during the 17-0 run. I’d hardly call it depleted. He had what, 17 TD’s? That’s awesome for any wideout in any system with any QB tossing the rock.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/83 "2015-02-07T07:24:49Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Moss had an incredible year during the 17-0 run. I’d hardly call it depleted. He had what, 17 TD’s? That’s awesome for any wideout in any system with any QB tossing the rock.

Fair point but he wasn’t at his imperious best as he was in his first three seasons.

Fact is, Brady has never played with a true hall of famer other than Moss.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/84 "2015-02-07T07:55:10Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> That’s a slightly amusing statement because it kind of says, I took this objective standard and added my own subjective ideas on top of it ;).

Many of us in this thread are contributing our subjective ideas. Myself included. I was very clear about that.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/85 "2015-02-07T07:57:22Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> Not too many people thought Belichick was one of the finest coaches of all time when he got fired by Cleveland after 4 losing seasons in 5 years, a 36-44 record and 1 playoff win.

Not too many people thought Bill Walsh was a genius when he was head coach at Stanford in 1977.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/86 "2015-02-07T08:02:36Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Replace Tarkenton with Star and you got it pretty much right.

Bart Starr, really? I rank him right up there with Trent Dilfer. Not really. Kind of.

> [@Laggard](#):
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> And Rodgers will soon enter that top 10.

My Niners were dumb to not draft Rodgers! Yes he will be in the top 10 when all is said and done.  
No arguments for the Majik Man, **Laggard**? 😃

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/87 "2015-02-07T15:08:19Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Replace Tarkenton with Star and you got it pretty much right. And Rodgers will soon enter that top 10. Wish I could find the exact quote but Brady said that Aaron is playing QB better than anyone ever has.

It’s obviously really hard to compare Rodgers with guys like Brady and Manning, let alone Montana, because Rodgers is younger and hasn’t had his inevitable statistical decline that will bring his numbers down in the end. But if Rodgers were somehow to sustain his production so far for, say, another 10 years, I think he’d finish as the consensus GOAT and no one else would be close. Aaron Rodgers has been really, really, really good.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-makes-tom-brady-such-a-great-quarterback/711637/88 "2015-02-07T16:28:51Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> Not too many people thought Bill Walsh was a genius when he was head coach at Stanford in 1977.

Walsh was 17-7 with 2 bowl game wins at Stanford. Far better than what Belichick had at Cleveland, although the mid season announcement of the Browns moving hurt the Browns.

> **[Bill Walsh (American football coach)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Walsh_(American_football_coach))**
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> William Ernest Walsh (November 30, 1931 – July 30, 2007) was an American professional and college football coach. He served as head coach of the San Francisco 49ers and the Stanford Cardinal, during which time he popularized the West Coast offense. After retiring from the 49ers, Walsh worked as a sports broadcaster for several years and then returned as head coach at Stanford for three seasons.
> Walsh went 102–63–1 (wins-losses-ties) with the 49ers, winning 10 of his 14 postseason games along w...

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