# What members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame have you seen live?

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**Created:** [January 17, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-members-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-have-you-seen-live/679059 "2014-01-17T14:48:50Z")\
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> [@WordMan](#):
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> All very cool - thank you for the inside scoop, **Bo**. Sounds like Ginger saves his irascibility for the press and perhaps some of the musicians he’s worked with 😉

All of the clips I’ve ever seen of him where he was dickish seemed, to me, to be situations where he was exasperated with people and simply could not understand that other people have different priorities than he does (and also possibly not understanding that not everyone has the same level of intelligence). IMO he seems to be a classic example of a very smart and talented person who isn’t quite as socialized as everyone around him, in part because he has always stood out from the people around him. I know lots of people (geeks, nerds, etc.) who are like that. I’d be surprised if the vast majority of Dopers don’t either know someone like that or fit that description themselves to some degree.

I think one of the reasons our conversation went well was that I specifically did not ask him about himself. We talked about music (but not musicians) and politics and drugs and the Gulf War and lots of stuff, but I never asked him about Cream or what it was like being a Drug God or what kind of drum sticks her used or anything stupid like that; we were just two regular guys talking about “stuff” while we shared some ganj.

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Not very many, but more than I realized! There are a number of people I have seen perform solo or in alternate bands, but who are in the Hall of Fame as part of their main band.

Crosby, Stills & Nash  
Paul McCartney  
Bruce Springsteen  
Aerosmith  
Tom Petty and the Heartbrakers  
Bob Seeger  
ZZ Top  
Pretenders  
Black Sabbath  
Lynyrd Skynyrd

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All before induction, except as noted

The Rolling Stones (before & after)  
The Kinks  
The Who  
David Bowie  
Pink Floyd (post-Waters)  
Paul McCartney  
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band (inducted separately)  
The Ramones  
The Clash  
Elvis Costello and the Attractions  
ZZ Top  
Sex Pistols  
R.E.M.  
Van Halen (and Van Hagar, both line-ups are in the hall)  
Guns and Roses  
Red Hot Chili Peppers

In the “saw them solo, not with the band they were inducted with” category:  
Ray Manzarek  
Iggy Pop  
Ray Davies (that’s in addition to the Kinks shows)

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Johnny Cash (twice) and Genesis. That’s all.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-members-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-have-you-seen-live/679059/105 "2014-01-22T03:50:11Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> You saw Alice and you don’t know what sex Alice is?"

Does Alice even know?

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-members-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-have-you-seen-live/679059/106 "2014-01-22T04:31:27Z")

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Quite a few of them:

Chuck Berry (before)  
James Brown (after)  
Ray Charles (after)  
Bo Diddley (not sure, maybe both before and after)  
B.B. King (before and after)  
Bob Dylan (before and after)  
The Kinks (before)  
John Lee Hooker (before and after)  
Bobby Blue Bland (before)  
Ruth Brown (before)  
Etta James (before)  
The Band (after, but not with a couple of the original members)  
Grateful Dead (before and after)  
Bruce Springsteen (before)  
Bonnie Raitt (before and after)  
James Taylor (after)  
Paul Simon (before)  
Traffic (before)  
Buddy Guy (before)  
Miles Davis (before)  
Dr. John (before)  
Albert King (before)

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> All of the clips I’ve ever seen of him where he was dickish seemed, to me, to be situations where he was exasperated with people and simply could not understand that other people have different priorities than he does (and also possibly not understanding that not everyone has the same level of intelligence). IMO he seems to be a classic example of a very smart and talented person who isn’t quite as socialized as everyone around him, in part because he has always stood out from the people around him. I know lots of people (geeks, nerds, etc.) who are like that. I’d be surprised if the vast majority of Dopers don’t either know someone like that or fit that description themselves to some degree.
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> I think one of the reasons our conversation went well was that I specifically did not ask him about himself. We talked about music (but not musicians) and politics and drugs and the Gulf War and lots of stuff, but I never asked him about Cream or what it was like being a Drug God or what kind of drum sticks her used or anything stupid like that; we were just two regular guys talking about “stuff” while we shared some ganj.

Have you seen _Beware of Mr. Baker_?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/W5seWMYG9kk/hqdefault.jpg "Hot Docs Trailers 2012: BEWARE OF MR. BAKER") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5seWMYG9kk)

(NSFW language)

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B.B. King  
The Beach Boys  
Dion  
The Rolling Stones  
The Kinks  
Bobby “Blue” Bland  
Booker T. & the M.G.'s  
Van Morrison  
The Band  
Grateful Dead  
Elton John  
The Allman Brothers Band  
Frank Zappa  
David Bowie  
Crosby, Stills & Nash  
Santana  
Billy Joel  
Paul McCartney  
Eric Clapton  
James Taylor  
Paul Simon  
Steely Dan  
Ramones  
Elvis Costello & the Attractions  
The Police  
Traffic  
U2  
Black Sabbath  
John Mellencamp  
Run-D.M.C  
Genesis  
Jimmy Cliff  
Beastie Boys  
Red Hot Chili Peppers  
Rush  
Peter Gabriel

I saw all of them (at least for the first time) before induction. Some, like CSN, The Stones, Allmans and Traffic - before and after.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-members-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-have-you-seen-live/679059/109 "2014-01-22T07:42:30Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Does Alice even know?

Yes. I would say so. Despite the name and the make-up (and unlike quite a lot of other performers one could mention) there is nothing particularly androgynous or sexually ambiguous about Alice Cooper, or even about his stage persona. He is a guy (AFAIK entirely straight), and does not pretend or even hint otherwise.

The name was never originally supposed to apply to him personally anyway. It was the name of the band in which he was lead singer. As the band’s frontman, he managed to hang onto the name when the band broke up, which enabled him to hang on to the fanbase.

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> [@njtt](#):
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> Yes. I would say so. Despite the name and the make-up (and unlike quite a lot of other performers one could mention) there is nothing particularly androgynous or sexually ambiguous about Alice Cooper, or even about his stage persona. He is a guy (AFAIK entirely straight), and does not pretend or even hint otherwise.

I was going to post the same thing. I’m sure one can find pictures of him in drag, but he’s mostly known as a shock rock kind of guy and his stage personas are masculine in nature.

Motorhead has opened for Alice before, but I can’t find anything about Alice ever opening for Motorhead. He’s opened for big bands like Black Sabbath and Iron maiden, but I can’t see him being Motorhead’s opening act.

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Carl Perkins  
The Rolling Stones  
Bruce Springsteen  
James Taylor  
Elvis Costello  
Pretenders  
U2  
R.E.M.  
The Crickets

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> [@njtt](#):
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> The name was never originally supposed to apply to him personally anyway. It was the name of the band in which he was lead singer. As the band’s frontman, he managed to hang onto the name when the band broke up, which enabled him to hang on to the fanbase.

Not so; the Alice Cooper name was always used for \*both \*the singer and the band, as far back as the first album. It was even commented on in their lyrics(“She asked me why the singer’s name was Alice”).

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More than I thought:

The Who  
The Band  
Eagles  
Fleetwood Mac  
Billy Joel  
Bruce Springsteen  
Eric Clapton  
Earth, Wind and Fire  
Bonnie Raitt  
James Taylor  
Talking Heads  
Elvis Costello (w/o the Attractions)  
Prince  
ZZ Top  
Neil Diamond  
Tom Waits  
Heart  
Police  
Big Joe Turner  
Muddy Waters  
Not the Grateful Dead per se, but “Jerry Garcia and Friends”, which consisted of most of the band

Didn’t go though the timeline in detail, but I’m pretty sure all were before induction.

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Billy Joel  
Rush  
Pink Floyd  
Alice Cooper  
Peter Gabriel

I don’t go to a lot of concerts–I tend to see the same artists/bands multiple times.

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At least 36 of them … probably a few more that have been lost in the haze.

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Chuck Berry - Before

And in the Why-the-Hell-Aren’t-They-Inducted-Yet Category, Weird Al Yankovic, multiple times.

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Only two: The Rolling Stones (Voodoo Lounge tour? Around 1992) and Buddy Guy (last year in Colorado Springs).

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Not so; the Alice Cooper name was always used for \*both \*the singer and the band, as far back as the first album. It was even commented on in their lyrics(“She asked me why the singer’s name was Alice”).

It was a sort of persona he adopted on stage as part of the band’s act, perhaps, but I do not think it was originally intended to be understood as _his_ name, even in the sense of a stage name. It was a bit like how Eminem (itself a stage name) performs some of the time in the character of Slim Shady. During the band’s lifetime, I do not believe Furnier was ever considered to be its leader, although,of course, as frontman he got most of the publicity.

From Wikipedia:

> [@](#):
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> Alice Cooper was originally a band consisting of Furnier on vocals and harmonica, lead guitarist Glen Buxton, Michael Bruce on rhythm guitar, Dennis Dunaway on bass guitar, and drummer Neal Smith. The original Alice Cooper band broke into the international music mainstream with the 1971 hit “I’m Eighteen” from the album Love It to Death, which was followed by the even bigger single “School’s Out” in 1972. The band reached their commercial peak with the 1973 album Billion Dollar Babies.
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> Furnier adopted the band’s name as his own name in the 1970s and began a solo career with the 1975 concept album Welcome to My Nightmare.
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> … [Further down] …
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> In 1975, Alice Cooper returned as a solo project with the release of Welcome to My Nightmare. To avoid legal complications over ownership of the group name, Alice Cooper had by then become the singer’s new legal name.

As I understand it, the rest of the band were very upset that Furnier had manage to seize legal control of the _Alice Cooper_ name when he went solo, meaning that they could no longer perform under it (as they felt they had the right to do) when they reformed.

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> [@njtt](#):
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> but I do not think it was originally intended to be understood as _his_ name, even in the sense of a stage name.

From an article written in 1969 (the year their first album was released):

> [@](#):
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> A word or two of background information would be in order first. The group, originally known as The Spiders and then The Nazz (not to be confused with another currently popular group bearing the same name), originated it Tempe and soon got to be quite well known in the Phoenix area before splitting for Los Angeles.
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> It was around then that the band’s leader changed his name and the name of the group to Alice Cooper. The reason for the name change, according to a published interview with Alice by Johnny Neat, was that it had been discovered that the spirit of a girl named Alice Cooper who lived in the 17th century had taken over his body two years before. Alice, incidently, appears on the LP liner in a dress.

> **[Articles](https://www.alicecooperechive.com/articles/index.php?magazineList=ariz&articleList=690500)**
>
> An extensive archive of Alice Cooper magazine and newspaper appearances from 1964 to the present day

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> [@njtt](#):
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> It was a sort of persona he adopted on stage as part of the band’s act, perhaps, but I do not think it was originally intended to be understood as _his_ name, even in the sense of a stage name.

Of course it was. It’s how he was identified on the album covers and even in the songwriting credits.

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