# What military branches are represented on the SD?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 14, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118 "2007-02-14T00:51:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/41 "2007-02-14T20:19:41Z")

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Spec 4. US Army, 1984-87, 15E (Pershing Missile Crewmember). Stationed at a NATO base in (formerly) West Germany and then at a Mechanized Infantry unit in Fort Sill, OK.

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**Author:** ![giant\_freakin\_marine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9fc348/32.png) [@giant\_freakin\_marine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/giant_freakin_marine)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/42 "2007-02-15T02:15:27Z")

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USMC 1970-1976  
one shot…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/43 "2007-02-15T02:43:48Z")

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[QUOTE=erie774]  
Spec 4. US Army, 1984-87,  
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Wouldn’t that be SP4 1984-1985 & SPC 1985-1987? 😉

FTR, I think it’s totally bogus of the US Army to have an E4 rank that’s not NCO. Those Specialists have some seriously hard jobs and that includes a major dose of leadership as part of the job!

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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/44 "2007-02-15T04:16:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
Wouldn’t that be SP4 1984-1985 & SPC 1985-1987? 😉

FTR, I think it’s totally bogus of the US Army to have an E4 rank that’s not NCO. Those Specialists have some seriously hard jobs and that includes a major dose of leadership as part of the job!  
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Nope. E1 through E3 while in Germany then when I got sent to the states I was promoted to E4. There weren’t enough slots for 15E in Fort Sill so I got placed with the mechanized infantry unit. I was put in the headquarters where I was in the training office. I got to ride in APCs, tanks, fire mortars and LAWs plus blow up C4 and claymores. It was fucking great!

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**Author:** ![pudytat72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@pudytat72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pudytat72)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/45 "2007-02-15T04:46:33Z")

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Major (0-4), USAF, 1980-1987, Medical Corps

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/46 "2007-02-15T04:58:50Z")

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erie, I was referring to the fact that as of 1 October 1985, SP5 & SP6 ceased to exist and thus the abbreviation for Specialist (at the E-4 paygrad) changed to SPC. And yet another gripe I have with the Army’s treating Specialists different from Corporals: one is promoted to Corporal; however, one is advanced to Specialist. Total malarkey and doesn’t recognize the facts on the ground.

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**Author:** ![dbuzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de0a6/32.png) [@dbuzman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dbuzman)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/47 "2007-02-15T08:30:21Z")

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USN (RM2) 1985 - 1995. Was a CTO til E4 than had to switch rates to RM in case anyone wonders why I didn’t get above E5 in 10 years.

All shore duty stations except last 2 years aboard USS Lake Erie CG70 (plank owner).

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/48 "2007-02-15T09:13:12Z")

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So that’s everybody but me is/was in the armed forces of one country or another? 😛

I’m itching to think of a GQ question to bring you all out of the shadows and have you tell us some interesting stories 😉

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/49 "2007-02-15T09:30:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Alessan]

Bit of a mistake there, though - the Private First Class rank was either abolished or is simply being ignored (knowing the IDF, probably the latter).  
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I’m pretty sure it **is** the latter – PFC (“Turai Rishon” ( טוראי ראשון ) ) is still on the books, I believe.

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> Incidentally, as I was promoted last year, I’m supposed to get a set of the new SFC epulettes, which I will never wear (reservist enlisted don’t wear insignia of any sort).

Mazal-tov! 🙂

And since we **are** doing furriners here:  
IAF (Israeli Air Force) 1985-1993, regular, reached rank of Major.  
IAF 1993-present, reserves, Major

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**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/50 "2007-02-15T10:38:16Z")

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US Navy. 1968 - 1972 EM3  
Guantanamo Bay  
USS Harry E. Yarnell DLG -17  
BTW: For all you vets looking for old military buddies a good website is [www.military.com](http://www.military.com). (all branches) And for Navy: [www.tincansailors.com](http://www.tincansailors.com)

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/51 "2007-02-15T12:50:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
FTR, I think it’s totally bogus of the US Army to have an E4 rank that’s not NCO. Those Specialists have some seriously hard jobs and that includes a major dose of leadership as part of the job!  
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Not really. I was a SP4 in the last half of my Army stint, and edited the command info newspaper. My promotion was based on time in service, time in rank. It was a pay raise, really, and not much more.

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**Author:** ![Kyyrewyyoae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Kyyrewyyoae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyyrewyyoae)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/52 "2007-02-15T14:13:53Z")

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Sgt, USMC 1999-2004. MOS 2676  
I’m still on the IRR until July 2007.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/53 "2007-02-15T14:24:41Z")

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Did all the Air Force types fly or did anyone sit in any bunkers waiting to turn keys?

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
FTR, I think it’s totally bogus of the US Army to have an E4 rank that’s not NCO. Those Specialists have some seriously hard jobs and that includes a major dose of leadership as part of the job!  
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I didn’t understand this either, but at least it worked in my favor. If the billet of aisle supe (or any other leadership position) was up for grabs, **Cpl Kyyrewyyoae** had a decided advantage over SPC Attitude and SrA Chubby, even if one of those two had seniority in the mission or more time in grade. All are E-4’s but a Cpl in the Corps is an NCO.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/55 "2007-02-15T15:07:31Z")

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OS2, U.S. Navy, 1993-1998.  
USS Monterey and Tactical Support Center, Sigonella, Sicily.

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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/56 "2007-02-15T15:58:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
erie, I was referring to the fact that as of 1 October 1985, SP5 & SP6 ceased to exist and thus the abbreviation for Specialist (at the E-4 paygrad) changed to SPC. And yet another gripe I have with the Army’s treating Specialists different from Corporals: one is promoted to Corporal; however, one is advanced to Specialist. Total malarkey and doesn’t recognize the facts on the ground.  
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I know but we (my similarly afflicted buddies and I) still called it Spec4. SPC stood for “Stupid: Pretend Corporal.” It was the most ridiculous thing to be surrounded by chevrons and be stuck with a flower petal on my collar.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/57 "2007-02-15T19:44:17Z")

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Submarine officer, USN, 1991-2002 (active duty).

Lieutenant Commander, USNR, 2002-present (IRR). (Haven’t got around to resigning my commission.)

I guess I’m one of the over-represented former submariners on the SDMB. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/58 "2007-02-15T20:01:08Z")

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[QUOTE=robby]  
Submarine officer, USN, 1991-2002 (active duty).

Lieutenant Commander, USNR, 2002-present (IRR). (Haven’t got around to resigning my commission.)

I guess I’m one of the over-represented former submariners on the SDMB. 🙂  
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Which subs?

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/59 "2007-02-15T23:17:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Pushkin]  
Did all the Air Force types fly or did anyone sit in any bunkers waiting to turn keys?  
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I am a flyer, yes.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-military-branches-are-represented-on-the-sd/392118/60 "2007-02-15T23:20:24Z")

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Naval Flight Officer, LCDR (O-4), 1994-present.

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