# What movies were pretty much regarded as stinkers, but you secretly enjoy?

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**Created:** [July 13, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075 "2012-07-13T02:04:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/81 "2012-07-13T19:03:32Z")

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I’ll add to the love for Capn Ron and “Your Highness” which I have watched many times on cable. Irreverence really helps when you’re dealing with medieval crap, though the king of that will always be “Monty Python and the Holy Grail.”

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/82 "2012-07-13T19:08:01Z")

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To repeat a few from others in the thread, I really liked **Last Action Hero** , **Mystery Men** , and **John Carter**. I also liked **Daredevil** better than either of the first two Spider-Man movies (which came out in the years before and after it), though with a gun to my head, I’d probably say the second Spidey was objectively _better_.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/83 "2012-07-13T19:11:39Z")

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Don’t know if they’re poorly reviewed but two silly faves:

**Mr. Mom**

**License to Drive**

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/84 "2012-07-13T19:33:49Z")

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[Vertical Limit](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/vertical_limit/). Throw it on a mountain and I’ll watch it. Add some great photography and I’ll probably buy it and watch it a bunch of times.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/85 "2012-07-13T19:35:25Z")

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> [@greenslime1951](#):
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> Alex Baldwin

[nitpick]Ale **c** Baldwin[/nitpick]

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/86 "2012-07-13T19:46:49Z")

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I like a lot of the parody films such as:

\*\*Loaded Weapon I \*\*

**Not Another Teen Movie**.

Loved, loved **Last Action Hero** especially since it introduced Bridget Wilson. Rowr!!

Also like a lot of the others mentioned.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/87 "2012-07-13T20:00:57Z")

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I’ve got another one:

**Johnny Dangerously**

“You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes… like yourselves”

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/88 "2012-07-13T20:26:42Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> \*Joe vs. the Volcano. \* “May you live a thousand years.”

I love his over the top [and floating] luggage.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/89 "2012-07-13T20:44:56Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> _Road House_, most definitely.

Oh yeah!

“Pain don’t hurt.” Another Patrick Swaye contender (along with “No-one puts baby in a corner”) for worst movie line in history. Ben Gazzara as the evil businessman, Sam Elliot as the old-school bouncer, and the Jeff Healey Band bluesing up the place. Classic!

I’ve seen _Roadhouse_ at least ten times.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I have no idea how Pitch Black is poorly reviewed. I thought it was quite good sci fi.

I liked it too.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/90 "2012-07-13T20:48:48Z")

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[Cannibal Women in the Avacado Jungle of Death](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094834/), with Bill Maher. It hits my funny bone in all the right places.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/91 "2012-07-13T20:52:52Z")

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I like the Matrix sequels. The first one established such a great universe of diverse motivations and philosophies, and the sequels turned into sci-fi kung fu movies. But the thing is, I LOVE kung fu movies. The best part of Reloaded was the Neo vs. Smiths fight, that was awesome. I don’t care if there was no philosophy anymore, no darkness, or pushing the edge. I like wire kung fu with a super human

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/92 "2012-07-13T21:16:50Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I’ve got another one:
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> **Johnny Dangerously**

You shouldn’t post that to me, **Kimaballkid**. My father did that to me once. Once!

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/93 "2012-07-13T21:20:24Z")

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I love all of M. Night Shyamalan’s movies. I can forgive him his faults and adore him for his strengths.

Also, he has a kick-ass house and I want to live there.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/94 "2012-07-13T21:22:38Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> You shouldn’t post that to me, **Kimaballkid**. My father did that to me once. Once!

You shouldn’t kick me in the balls, **Monkey With a Gun**. My sister kicked me in the balls once…

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/95 "2012-07-13T21:23:56Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I like a lot of the parody films such as:
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> \*\*Loaded Weapon I \*\*

I thought Loaded Weapon was very funny as was Hot Shots and Hot Shots Part Deux. I actually think Part Deux is one of those rare sequels that is as good as or better than its predecessor.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/96 "2012-07-13T21:47:39Z")

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Wing Commander. Good cheesy space action. With Jurgen Prochnow!

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-movies-were-pretty-much-regarded-as-stinkers-but-you-secretly-enjoy/628075/97 "2012-07-13T21:59:53Z")

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_Sword of the Valiant_, with Miles O’Keefe as Sir Gawaine, and Sean Connery as the Green Night.

As a Work of Cinematic Art, it is atrocious. However, as a film version of a medieval romance, it’s not bad.

It is the sort of story written to entertain pampered aristocrats who never had to work a day in their lives. Peasants are either non-existant, or comic relief.

Plot and characterization are tissue-thin, but then again, they tended to be pretty thin in the medieval sources. Improbable coincidences and _deus ex machina_ abound.

Why does the Black Knight kill anyone who tries to enter Lyonesse? Well, because he’s a black knight, and that’s what black knights do. No explanation asked or offered.

Why does Morgan le Fay help the hero? Because he’s pretty. Why does the damsel help the hero? Because he’s pretty.

The screenwriters took some liberties with the source material. Then again, the sources weren’t consistent with each other.

The soundtrack is a wretched example of early 1980s synthesizer. But it’s not as annoying as the _Ladyhawk_ soundtrack. I can only imagine the producers discussing the matter:  
“I want a grand orchestra, scored by John Williams or Basil Poledouris.”  
“We don’t have the money for that.”  
“What can we afford?”  
“Well, my nephew has a synthesizer in his parent’s basement.”  
“He’s hired.”

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I found both Ishtar and Pluto Nash to be cheesy fun.

ETA: was Joe Vs the Volcano really considered a stinker? I loved it but didn’t know it did badly with critics.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Kurt Russel wasn’t the hero of Big Trouble, he was the comic sidekick. Most people don’t get that.

Most importantly, Jack Burton didn’t know that. That’s one of the things that makes it a great, fun movie.

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Another vote for **Constantine**. Really enjoyed it, and I thought Peter Stormare’s Devil was one of the best put to film.

Another one that I really enjoyed was **Executive Decision**. “I take back every rust-picking, squid-eating thing I’ve ever said about Squabbies!”

But my all-time terrible movie that I loved was the Chevy Chase vehicle **Modern Problems**. I think my brothers and I are the only people who even remember this movie, let alone quote it.

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