# What new Star Trek show do YOU want? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 15, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668 "2018-08-15T17:26:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/41 "2018-08-16T23:16:36Z")
Law & Order: Federation Set it during the original series, and have the lawyer who defended Kirk in Court: Martial show up occasionally for the defense. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/42 "2018-08-16T23:24:23Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Why can’t they have a show set in “present day” continuity? That is, DS9 ended in 1999. So your new show is set 20 years later than that. You can use any guest star from DS9, TNG or Voyager, and they’ve all aged exactly as much as you’d expect, except Data. You can’t use him, because he’s dead, and B4 won’t work because Brent Spiner is too old now. > > You want strange new world and new civilizations? Dude, they’re right there. Just go a little bit farther out and you’re in uncharted territory. If you have a ship that goes twice as far as the old ship, it will have to explore a volume 8 times larger. So you don’t have to rehash all your old Romulans and Cardassians and Klingons. Just over there is a brand-new galactic civilization that we’ve never heard of. Just over there is a brand-new planet of scantily-clad aerobics instructors. > > I don’t understand this idea that you have to set everything in prequel-ville so every new planet you encounter is a new planet. Because that planet might be new to the prequel characters, but it’s old to the viewers. Set your goddam show in the goddam “present” of Trek, for crying out loud. Everything is brand new just like you wanted, you just have to go a little bit farther out, and suddenly you’re out of range of Starfleet, you’re out of range of help, you’re on a continuing mission to seek out new life and new civilizations. I find you ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. ---
**Author:** ![Sloe\_Moe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sloe\_Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sloe_Moe)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/43 "2018-08-16T23:28:19Z")
I want at least one detailed deployment of photon torpedos and phasers per episode. There should be at least one battle cruiser on either side destroyed every three episodes. At least one secondary unit on either side blasted every episode. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/44 "2018-08-17T00:27:52Z")
I still vote for Star Trek Corps of Engineers. I’d LOVE to see the reaction of a person hearing "Yeah, Kirk found a gateway that travels through time on this planet. Go reverse-engineer it, please. ". ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/45 "2018-08-17T01:03:04Z")
[Thumb Trek](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206341/) or a Lego version. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/46 "2018-08-17T04:38:19Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Isn’t that pretty much what _Star Trek: Enterprise_ was? The point to my post is that they need to do what _Enterprise_ should have done, and was so horribly inept at doing. Then just retcon that show away as being an alternate holodeck universe. :mad: > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It would not have a guy who had leapt into a starship Captain and didn’t have a clue what to do. Touché. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/47 "2018-08-17T18:59:23Z")
Not to sound like a broken record but the Novels also continued the story of DS9 if people are interested. ---
**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/48 "2018-08-17T19:17:12Z")
Please, please, please, stop with the dystopian view of the ST universe and the R-rated violence. I like the idea of police procedurals and detective shows. I don’t know how to incorporate non-human abilities without degenerating into crime solved by alien magic, though. My favorite shows of all time include _Magnum PI_ and _Eureka!_, so I could see crime fighting and scifi together. And humor. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/49 "2018-08-17T19:45:14Z")
Some earlier thoughts that I pulled up from the past that fit this current discussion: [The perfect Star Trek](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=191999) [All Trek, All the time](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=166154) [Trek Dopers, what would you include in an R rated Star Trek?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=159066) They have links to even older threads. It’s a fun read, if I do say so myself. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/50 "2018-08-17T19:54:51Z")
DS9 was my favorite series, so I would want something like a sequel to it. The series would still be set on DS9, but most\* of the original cast would have moved on. Instead of a war, however, the series could be about exploration into the beta quadrant with a ship designed for exploring based at the station. They could easily make some excuse so that somehow the wormhole now leads to the beta quadrant, and most of the shows would be about exploring new planets in the relatively unknown beta quadrant. I think this would combine the best of both DS9 and TNG, which is my second favorite Stat Trek series. \*The cast would be all new other than bringing back Quark and Garek, who still live on the station 20 years later and make guest appearances from time to time. They would mostly stay on DS9 but sometimes go with the crew of the new ship on their adventure of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/51 "2018-08-17T20:48:34Z")
I’d like to see what amounts to a Star Trek sitcom based on fan-fic stories. [For instance.](https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/11/star-trek-mad-science/) > [@](#): > > Klingons: Okay we don’t get it > > Vulcan Science Academy: Get what > > Klingons: You Vulcans are a bunch of stuffy prisses but you’re also tougher, stronger, and smarter than Humans in every single way > > Klingons: Why do you let them run your Federation > > Vulcan Science Academy: Look > > Vulcan Science Academy: This is a species where if you give them two warp cores they don’t do experiments on one and save the other for if the first one blows up > > Vulcan Science Academy: This is a species where if you give them two warp cores, they will ask for a third one, immediately plug all three into each other, punch a hole into an alternate universe where humans subscribe to an even more destructive ideological system, fight everyone in it because they’re offended by that, steal their warp cores, plug those together, punch their way back here, then try to turn a nearby sun into a torus because that was what their initial scientific experiment was for and they didn’t want to waste a trip. > > Vulcan Science Academy: They did that last week. We have the write-up right here. it’s getting published in about six hundred scientific journals across two hundred different disciplines because of how many established theories their ridiculous little expedition has just called into question. Also, they did turn that sun into a torus, and no one actually knows how. > > Vulcan Science Academy: This is why we let them do whatever the hell they want. > > Klingons: … Can we be a part of your Federation ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/52 "2018-08-17T21:12:08Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > I’d like to see what amounts to a Star Trek sitcom based on fan-fic stories. > > [For instance.](https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/11/star-trek-mad-science/) This has, and always will be, one of my favorite story quips. Thanks for posting it again :). ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/53 "2018-08-17T21:51:49Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Why can’t they have a show set in “present day” continuity? That is, DS9 ended in 1999. So your new show is set 20 years later than that. You can use any guest star from DS9, TNG or Voyager, and they’ve all aged exactly as much as you’d expect, except Data. You can’t use him, because he’s dead, and B4 won’t work because Brent Spiner is too old now. > > You want strange new world and new civilizations? Dude, they’re right there. Just go a little bit farther out and you’re in uncharted territory. If you have a ship that goes twice as far as the old ship, it will have to explore a volume 8 times larger. So you don’t have to rehash all your old Romulans and Cardassians and Klingons. Just over there is a brand-new galactic civilization that we’ve never heard of. Just over there is a brand-new planet of scantily-clad aerobics instructors. > > I don’t understand this idea that you have to set everything in prequel-ville so every new planet you encounter is a new planet. Because that planet might be new to the prequel characters, but it’s old to the viewers. Set your goddam show in the goddam “present” of Trek, for crying out loud. Everything is brand new just like you wanted, you just have to go a little bit farther out, and suddenly you’re out of range of Starfleet, you’re out of range of help, you’re on a continuing mission to seek out new life and new civilizations. This. Just more Trek. There’s another dark, gritty R-rated stuff out there, I’d like to see some positive views on the future. More Trek, more utopia and exploration and technology and ingenuity saving the day. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/54 "2018-08-17T23:31:48Z")
On a realistic note: back when _ST:TNG_ was coming out, and we didn’t really know what the show would be about, I proposed that they should make it a lot like _Hill Street Blues_. That is, while the main bridge officers would exist in the series, the series could focus on the grunts, like the “red shirts”, the people working in Engineering, the scientists that regularly go down on the planets as exploration happens, etc. The show could have explored the inter-personal relationships of those people. Given the tremendous popularity of _HSB_, not to mention _St. Elsewhere_ at the time, I thought the idea was a winner. I still do. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/55 "2018-08-18T00:26:40Z")
I can tell you what I don’t want, no more time travel! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/56 "2018-08-18T00:38:49Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > I can tell you what I don’t want, no more time travel! I believe that The City in the Edge of Forever was very popular, and money hungry producers thought time travel stories would be profitable. Perhaps some authors also felt that time travel stories would be winning scripts. ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/57 "2018-08-18T03:31:35Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > I can tell you what I don’t want, no more time travel! I agree. If I want time travel I’ll watch Dr. Who, Trek has never been able to pull it off well. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/58 "2018-08-18T12:57:58Z")
I wouldn’t say never. City On the Edge of Forever Year of Hell These remain some of my favorite episodes. I will say that when they used it as a crutch or as a setting for an already poor story, it really stunk. For years, I have railed against most uses of the Big Giant Reset Button. But sometimes…, they did okay. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668/59 "2018-08-18T14:50:45Z")
Only one is remotely attractive to me right now: a genuine continuation, in the future, that is about how things are better. Stop with this gritty crap that isn’t Star Trek. DS9 was a spinoff, not the main show–it never aired without a ship-based, episodic show beside it. It wasn’t a bad show, but it should not be what Trek is at its core. And I’m just tired of retreading the past. I have genuinely no interest at all in Discovery. Just the ads made it unappewling. And the other ideas need a real Star Trek first, before they can be spun off. Also, no reptilian looking Klingons. We went too far in explaining their appearance to screw it up now. That alone showed me the disrespect of Discovery. Sure, update the makeup, but keep it reasonable that they are the same species. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-new-star-trek-show-do-you-want/819668.md?page=2)