# What next for the Star Trek universe? Or is it goodnight? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 25, 2004, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158 "2004-06-25T07:37:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/41 "2004-06-26T13:50:41Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > But you buy Archer in the same role? You are speaking to the founder of the “Kill Archer, Promote Trip” club. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/42 "2004-06-26T14:06:40Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Diane Duane > > The Rihannsu two part series is supposed to be really good too although I’ve not yet read it. Does one of these have the Commander from “The Enterprise Incident” as protagonist? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/43 "2004-06-26T15:11:17Z")
Having Manny Coto in charge should really reinvigorate the franchise. Bergama was running it into the star dust with their preachyness (annoying in the 60s, kill my lan’lord now) and stupid time travel / BFRB ideas. Manny will bring back action and should make some major developement in supporting characters. One thing I really enjoy about him is he isn’t into the “recreate the Kirk/Spock/McCoy interaction” that nobody else after Gene and DC could do well. Manny is a _modern_ Trekker. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/44 "2004-06-26T15:20:35Z")
> [@Knowed Out](#): > > J. Michael Strascysnky [pitched an idea to Paramount](http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-06/21/10.00.tv) on saving the Star Trek franchise, but doesn’t look like anything’s definite yet. From the little bit I’ve been able to pick up (damn little, btw!), it isn’t gonna happen. Not as a Trek anyways. No cite, just my impression from what I’ve seen/heard. One thing that bugs me, tho. Nobody (online) is even hinting at what the idea was! Arg! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/45 "2004-06-27T04:47:26Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Does one of these have the Commander from “The Enterprise Incident” as protagonist? Maybe but I’m not sure. I think “Web of the Romulans” does though but don’t quote me on it… I’ve read most of the Trek novels and a lot of them tend to blend in after a while. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/46 "2004-06-27T15:43:26Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Maybe but I’m not sure. Check out the first cover: [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=Rihannsu+Diane+Duane&userid=ygx13hBmPa](http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=Rihannsu+Diane+Duane&userid=ygx13hBmPa) ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/47 "2004-06-27T19:30:07Z")
We need one more movie. This is where the Organians must recruit a reluctant Wesley Crusher, along with some Star Fleet Academy middies in a bid to save the universe from the Moriarity lifeform which has acquired mobility and power even beyond Q levels. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/48 "2004-06-28T19:18:54Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Strascysnky isn’t exactly exiled to the island of comic book drones. Marvel and DC have, for the last several years, agressively pursued the services of Hollywood (and fairly big-name SF/genre publishing) writers to strengthen their titles. JMS is no more slumming on _Spider-Man_ than Joss Whedon is on _X-Men_ or Andrew Vachss is on _Batman_. And with the current deluge of comic book characters onscreen, I really don’t think a side career in the funnybooks is quite the career-ender it was 30 years ago. > > Consider the careers of some of these comic-book pros: > Jules Feiffer > Howard Chaykin > Michael Uslan > Terry Gilliam > Frank Miller > > Didja know John Cleese is writing an upcoming Superman title? And Steve Gerber has a TNG episode on his resume? As I said “Fun I am sure, but hardly the place he thought he would end up.”, many of these people did very limited runs. JMS had big plans post B5, and really- after the somewhat shaky 5th season of B5 and the two busts of the follow-up series he hasn’t done much other then penning comics. Comics have reached a greater acceptance lately then any time in the past entertainment industry-wise (thanks to the Spiderman, X-men, Hulk pictures), so its not _bad_, but to go from were he was to were he is now must be humbling. Still the thought of him replacing Braga is heartwarming. But I heard they cut the Enterprise budget for next year along with the move to scheduling wasteland, so they may not be looking to spend any money on the series. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/49 "2004-06-28T20:53:54Z")
> [@astro](#): > > We need one more movie. This is where the Organians must recruit a reluctant Wesley Crusher, along with some Star Fleet Academy middies in a bid to save the universe from the Moriarity lifeform which has acquired mobility and power even beyond Q levels. Okay, I’m not much of a Trekkie, but I think I’m following you here. The _Voyager_ gets back from the Delta quadrant with the technology which allowed the Doctor to roam freely. Picard hears about this and, being the man of his word that he is, reopens the holodeck program from season 2 of TNG in which Geordi asked the computer to create a Sherlock Holmes type character capable of defeating Data. Moriarty comes out and is given a similar device to the Doctor’s. Because he was created super-duper smart, and because he is evil, he does something which will destroy all of space-time. Of course, only the crews of the Enterprise-E and the Titan can save the day. I think I could enjoy that. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/50 "2004-06-28T20:59:51Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Does one of these have the Commander from “The Enterprise Incident” as protagonist? Her mother, as the commander of a Bird of Prey. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/51 "2004-06-28T21:06:07Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > Another way to show closure: Starfleet breaks up the band. Everyone gets new shipping orders and new assignments. Data retires to teach at Oxford, Dr. Crusher is promoted a to science vessel, Geordi leads construction of a new fleet, Worf leaves Starfleet for a post as governor on a Klingon outpost. The crew ponies up for one last hoist of synthehol in Ten-Forward and Deanna confesses that she and Riker have been cheating all those years playing poker. Data’s emotion chip prompts him to respond in a killer robot rampage. Dr. Crusher finally finishes the sentence, "Jean-Luc, there’s something I’ve been meaning to tell you…"and Wesley drops by for a demigodlike visit, along with DS9s Benjamin Sisko and the blad-headed chick from the first movie. All are phasered on sight. And then, Picard turns to Beverly Crusher and says, “Today is Sunday. I think I’ll go for a drive,” and they hug in a tear-choked goodbye. Then Picard takes the Captain’s Yacht out to the rim of the galaxy and meets Q, who says “Did you think we had forgotten you?” A later expedition to the galactic rim found the Captain’s Yacht, but they never found Picard. All the airlocks were sealed but there was no trace of him inside. As for Beverly Crusher, every morning for as long as she lived, she got up before dawn and watched the sun come up. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/52 "2004-06-29T02:44:08Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Her mother, as the commander of a Bird of Prey. Her Mother? Her _Mother?_ “Be sure and take your mad money to the movie so that you may pay the Blood Debt should you be required to kill the usher.” ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/53 "2004-06-29T02:48:44Z")
Whose house? Run’s house! ---
**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/54 "2004-06-29T03:35:12Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Whose house? > > Run’s house! Say what?! ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/55 "2004-06-29T11:43:56Z")
I’d LOVE it if they did a show on just the 'Time continum police" Where in the charaters of the show drive themselve crazy trying to go back and fix all the shit Captain Picard, Janeway, Sisko, Archer and even Captian Kirk fucked up. Ironically, sort of like a Quantum Leap meets Star Trek kind of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/56 "2004-06-29T13:52:25Z")
> [@SHAKES](#): > > I’d LOVE it if they did a show on just the 'Time continum police" Where in the charaters of the show drive themselve crazy trying to go back and fix all the shit Captain Picard, Janeway, Sisko, Archer and even Captian Kirk fucked up. > > Ironically, sort of like a Quantum Leap meets Star Trek kind of thing. “Oh, boy…” ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/57 "2004-06-30T00:34:54Z")
> [@Dr. Rieux](#): > > “Oh, boy…” Guess I should clarify I was totaly being sarcastic. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/58 "2004-06-30T02:19:47Z")
None needed, really. And welcome to Trek Doping! You see, we call Bacula’s character (Captain Jonathon Archer) **Quantum**. Oh the irony… ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/59 "2004-06-30T02:33:00Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > And then, Picard turns to Beverly Crusher and says, “Today is Sunday. I think I’ll go for a drive,” and they hug in a tear-choked goodbye. Then Picard takes the Captain’s Yacht out to the rim of the galaxy and meets Q, who says “Did you think we had forgotten you?” A later expedition to the galactic rim found the Captain’s Yacht, but they never found Picard. All the airlocks were sealed but there was > no trace of him inside. As for Beverly Crusher, every morning for as long as she lived, she got up before dawn and watched the sun come up. :: tears well from my eyes :: …but I’m not sure if its from laughter or sadness!!! ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158/60 "2004-06-30T02:56:55Z")
jezzzu, put the damned universe to sleep, how much drivel on the same 7 plotlines can we be expected to watch? What we really need is another set of episodic series like outer limits using the new crop of spec fic writers short stories as scripts/scripting ideas. Heck, I’d even watch it if they used classic SF writers from the 40s - 80s IF they refused to use Asimov, Heinlein, Norton and anybody else who has been overused=\ How about James H Schmitz, Charles Scheffield, Gorden R Dickson [how about them Hokas!], Jack L Chalker, Tom Godwin, Fred Saberhagen, Murray Leinster, Larry Niven, Randall Garrett… \ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-next-for-the-star-trek-universe-or-is-it-goodnight/252158.md?page=4)