# What, no American Idol thread yet?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 7, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435 "2006-03-07T22:08:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/301 "2006-03-10T14:56:57Z")

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[QUOTE=yellowval]  
I’m pretty disappointed about Gedeon. It actually made me cry when he got eliminated (which is stupid, I know), and I had to run to the bathroom quick so my husband wouldn’t see. Can’t have him see me crying over American Idol. That’s silly! I dunno, it’s just been a long week. It’s just a travesty that he got eliminated while Kevin gets to stay. Gedeon, I feel, would have continued to give solid performances in the theme weeks, while Kevin’s performances are sure to be cringe-worthy. _sigh_

I don’t really feel that bad for Ayla, and I don’t think it was just the song. I think the reason she didn’t pull in the votes is because many of us see in her that popular high school girl who was perfect at everything. And it wasn’t us. I think she was hard for people to relate to. I think the Pickler should have gone before her, but whatever.

As for Will and Kinnik: I like you, but it was your time. Good luck, kids.  
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I’m an American Idol crier too. I even cry when people I DON’T like get the boot! It’s pathetic. It embarrasses me to no end.

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/302 "2006-03-10T15:06:20Z")

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Thank goodness I’m not the only one! Thanks for that, **Kalhoun**. I’m suddenly feeling much less alone (though no less dorky, I’m afraid). 😉

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/303 "2006-03-10T15:42:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Sampiro]  
My predictions for the week after Stevie week:

- Chris will talk in the interview about his youthful desire to be a woman before finding the Jews-for-Jesus and Hare-Krishnas in some order, then will sing Sympathy for the Devil.

- Kevin in his interview will talk about what he thinks a girl’s bellybutton would look like and will then sing ‘Shine on Harvest Moon’.

-Mandrisa will recall the pain of being the biggest girl in her yoga class and will then belt out “Big Girls Don’t Cry”.

- Taylor will play a Jew’s Harp rather than say anything during his interview and will then give an incredible bluesy version of “The Rain in Spain”.

- Paris will talk about how much she loves her gay uncle Lisa and then belt out a fabulous jazz version of the Monorail song from “The Simpsons”.

- Elliot will discuss his childhood in an internment camp for kids with really bad orthidonture and then sing an incredible rendition of _Greensleeves_.

- Lisa: interview portion- her phobia of germs and how it killed her aunt. Song: Cat Stevens’s _Peace Train_

- Ace will talk about how ostracized he felt being the only kid in 4th grade with a cap in the back pocket of his too-tight jeans and will then sing “Tiptoe Through the Tulips”.

- Kellie will talk about her confusion the first time she ever saw a flush toilet (“People do that… _inside the house_?” [March 1997] and then sing a rousing rendition of Eminem’s _Cleanin’ Out My Closet_ that she’ll dedicate to her Meemaw.

Bucky will discuss how he and his twin brother grew up in a version of _Parent Trap_ after his parents divorced and his mom moved with Rocky to the next trailer park over and they never met until both worked at the same Dollar General, then will sing Helen Reddy’s _I Am Woman_.

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I’m going to start doing a ‘Sampiro’ search for posts from now on. Hilarious dude!

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/304 "2006-03-10T16:09:09Z")

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Week after Sampiro Week…

Ryan: Tonight’s theme is “the songs from Sesame Street.” Please say Hello to our special guest judge, Scooter the Muppet!

(Mild applause)

Scooter: (Apologetically) My uncle owns the theater.

Ryan: And now to kick things off, here’s rocker Chris Daughtry with “Rubber Ducky”!

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/305 "2006-03-10T16:15:28Z")

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[QUOTE=jali]

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I’m going to start doing a ‘Sampiro’ search for posts from now on. Hilarious dude!  
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Wise move. 🙂

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/306 "2006-03-10T16:59:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Walter Windchill]  
I’ve never liked Melissa, but I started fervently hoping she’d make it and Ayla would go home. Ayla goes home to rich parents and a scholarship to Boston College and an opportunity to do what she really wants to do, which is play basketball and pledge the Phi Gams. Melissa would have gone home to a waitressing job at a truck stop in Tampa.  
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I loved Ryan’s intro to the Melissa/Ayla cut: Looking back on this journey, Ayla, you are a straight-A student and star basketball player with a famous father and a new Porsche at 16 and all the absolute bestest friends a girl could ask for and a strong but sensitive lacrosse-playing boyfriend, and Melissa, you took that first plane ride from Buttfuck to Denver… well, the plane ride was worth it!

And then he was like Ayla’s coach, psyching her back up with all the positives so that she didn’t crumble into a fetal position on stage.

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/307 "2006-03-10T17:17:45Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
I think people sometimes over-think these things.  
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Eh. Whatever. You don’t think Ayla was a good singer. I do, but I don’t think she was likable. How am I reading any more into it than you are? Neither of us knows exactly _why_ people vote the way they do. I, for one, can’t understand why someone would think Kevin was cute and vote for him for that reason.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/308 "2006-03-10T18:52:15Z")

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[QUOTE=gigi]  
I loved Ryan’s intro to the Melissa/Ayla cut: Looking back on this journey, Ayla, you are a straight-A student and star basketball player with a famous father and a new Porsche at 16 and all the absolute bestest friends a girl could ask for and a strong but sensitive lacrosse-playing boyfriend, and Melissa, you took that first plane ride from Buttfuck to Denver… well, the plane ride was worth it!

And then he was like Ayla’s coach, psyching her back up with all the positives so that she didn’t crumble into a fetal position on stage.  
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Tampa is not Buttfuck, USA! It is a fairly large metropolitan city in Florida.  
:mad:  
[sub]The suburbs may be Buttfuck, though.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/309 "2006-03-10T18:53:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Wile E]  
Tampa is not Buttfuck, USA! It is a fairly large metropolitan city in Florida.  
:mad:  
[sub]The suburbs may be Buttfuck, though.[/sub]  
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D’oh! Not the suburbs, I meant the rural area. I always get those mixed up.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/310 "2006-03-10T19:22:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Wile E]  
Tampa is not Buttfuck, USA! It is a fairly large metropolitan city in Florida.  
:mad:  
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Sorry! I blanked on looking at the very post I quoted :o and took the low road.

::wanders off looking for a wet noodle

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/311 "2006-03-10T22:11:48Z")

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what’s the deal with the seacrest suit and tie? i hated him less in a t-shirt…

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/312 "2006-03-10T22:20:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Walter Windchill]  
I’ve never liked Melissa, but I started fervently hoping she’d make it and Ayla would go home. Ayla goes home to rich parents and a scholarship to Boston College and an opportunity to do what she really wants to do, which is play basketball and pledge the Phi Gams. Melissa would have gone home to a waitressing job at a truck stop in Tampa.  
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Yeah, I think you’re right. But it would have been nice to have someone from New England in the finals. AI skews very very Southron.

Ayla’s biggest problem demographically is that she’s in the same niche (smart overachieving female youth) as Katharine & Lisa, who both tended to sing as well or better than she, (& who both have TV star good looks). Even with the height, she gets lost in the mix.

Hurm. I confess after hearing Simon dis Melissa Tuesday, I didn’t power-vote for Ayla as for Melissa, my own self. I wonder if the margin was about 85 votes? naah.

In that vein, I think the most votes I gave a guy this week was 10 for Gedeon. I just didn’t have that strong an opinion, & I went somewhere else for real human interaction during the voting period.

Shame about Gedeon, though. I was curious to see how he’d do with an assigned song.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/313 "2006-03-10T22:26:57Z")

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[QUOTE=edwino]  
… I think the show has a definite half-life. …I’d like to see variations on this show …maybe a singer/songwriter American Idol where every week you would need to perform a song that you wrote That might be kind of interesting…

Anyway, it is a reasonably entertaining thing to do with the wife, especially now that the chaff is (mostly) eliminated  
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Have you ever heard of [Rock Star](http://rockstar.msn.com/) ?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/314 "2006-03-11T09:38:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Biggirl]  
You all _are_ a little close and almost became friends.

is what he said.  
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Yes, but he said it about Ayla and the judges, not Ayla and Melissa or the other contestants.

Also, I’m not sure Ayla would have cried if Ryan hadn’t immediately started twisting the knife. “Think about how _faaaaaaar_ you’ve come! A lot of people don’t get this _faaaaaaar_! Think about all you’ve _accomplished_!” Which just seemed unnecessary to me, and almost backhanded, like “You’ve come this far…just to get voted out before it really starts to pay off!”

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/315 "2006-03-11T16:18:23Z")

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I think that Walter Windchill’s Wonder choices are really very good. They fit each singer perfectly. But Sampiro, I think it’s _juice_ harp, not Jew’s harp. But maybe I’m victim of another minx gaffe.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/316 "2006-03-11T16:35:52Z")

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Thanks Liberal.

Jew’s Harp is historically right. I think sometime in the late 20th Century people started calling it juice harp out of political correctness (It was not called a Jew’s Harp for any association with Jewish culture, but a joke about it being the cheapest instrument you can buy).

Then, I was raised calling it a gewgaw, hard gees. I actually play one. There’s really nothing to it but having the jaw muscle of a pit bull.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/317 "2006-03-11T17:01:25Z")

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With some judicious lyric changes, could someone sing “I Wish”? I think Elliott has the voice for it.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/318 "2006-03-11T20:01:25Z")

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The song “I Wish,” begins with the lyric, “Looking back on when I was a nappy headed boy.” That pretty much kills it for white singers. 😉

But yeah, I love that song, and wish someone could do it justice.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/319 "2006-03-11T20:17:37Z")

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Has anyone guessed yet that I’m a big Stevie Wonder fan and looking forward to next week?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-american-idol-thread-yet/347435/320 "2006-03-11T20:58:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Walter Windchill]  
Thanks Liberal.

Jew’s Harp is historically right. I think sometime in the late 20th Century people started calling it juice harp out of political correctness (It was not called a Jew’s Harp for any association with Jewish culture, but a joke about it being the cheapest instrument you can buy).

Then, I was raised calling it a gewgaw, hard gees. I actually play one. There’s really nothing to it but having the jaw muscle of a pit bull.  
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Huh. Never heard “juice” harp; only every heard Jew’s harp. Ever had one clang against your teeth if you don’t hold it at the right angle? Truly a dangerous instrument.

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