# What? No Supernatural season finale thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427 "2010-05-14T14:14:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/1 "2010-05-14T14:14:12Z")
Was I the only one blown away by the revelation (ha!) that SPOILER SPACE Chuck the Prophet was GOD all along? ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/2 "2010-05-14T16:37:34Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > What? No Supernatural season finale thread? I dunno about the rest of you but I sure as shit don’t want to spend any more time thinking about that turd. (Yet I _will_. Sigh.) ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/3 "2010-05-14T17:05:08Z")
Two things: 1. I’ve actually been to Stull Cemetery! It is just outside of Lawrence Kansas. I was there back in 1993. The set they used (surprise surprise) doesn’t resemble the actual place at all. 2. RE: your spoiler. That was my immediate reaction as well, although in hindsight I’m not sure how much sense it makes. He seemed extremely wimpy to be God. I suppose that could all have been an act for Sam and Dean’s benefit, but weren’t there several times when we saw him when he was by himself and not acting particularly god-like? I’m wondering if instead the whole vanishing bit was just to be interpreted that he had fulfilled his part and now was being called straight to Heaven. It’s been a while since I read the Bible, but wasn’t there at least one OT prophet who, instead of dying, was just whisked away to heaven? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/4 "2010-05-14T17:10:09Z")
> [@Meltdown](#): > > It’s been a while since I read the Bible, but wasn’t there at least one OT prophet who, instead of dying, was just whisked away to heaven? Elijah, for one. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/5 "2010-05-14T17:10:18Z")
I liked how it ended but I wasn’t crazy about how they got there. I’ll have to watch again on DVD – maybe it’ll hang together better. I like **Meltdown** ’s theory – not God, but a prophet. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/6 "2010-05-14T17:27:55Z")
I also interpreted Chuck’s sudden evaporation as being done, not as being God. Sadly, I don’t think Chuck would really WANT to just suddenly go to heaven in the middle of a perfectly good bottle of scotch. I’ve often said that season finales aren’t really what Supernatural does best, but I actually kinda liked that. I know people wanted it to be epic, but honestly that’s also not what Supernatural does best. It’s fundamentally a show about Sam and Dean’s relationship, and this was true to that. At the end, Dean wasn’t even there to save Sam (let alone the world). He just didn’t want Sam to die alone. Aw. Castiel must be getting tired of exploding. I certainly hope he’ll be back next season. And poor Adam. ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/7 "2010-05-14T17:28:46Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I liked how it ended but I wasn’t crazy about how they got there. Me too. First, the scene of the fight between Michael and Lucifer didn’t exactly scream “epic battle” even before Dean drove in. You’d think the climactic battle between heaven and hell would arrive with a little more fanfare. Second, I was disappointed that all it took was the army man in the armrest to allow Sam to regain control. I would have bought it more if somehow they’d established Lucifer had been weakened beforehand. And finally, I’m not too sure how I feel about the fact that Castiel brought Bobby back to life. I mean, I’m glad he’s alive and all, but can Castiel just _do_ that? If so, why not Jo and Ellen while he was at it? Heck, why not John Winchester? Maybe Bobby was just _mostly_ dead. But I did like the fact that both Michael and Lucifer fell into the box. A nice capper to the whole “both demons and angels are dicks” theme running through the past couple of seasons. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/8 "2010-05-14T17:32:09Z")
Yeah, I’m not feeling the ‘Chuck as God’ thing… we were told pretty clearly that he was a prophet, and there was the one scene where the Boys pretended to threaten him to get the archangel to show up. If God had been missing for as long as everyone said he was, totally incommunicado, how would the archangel know where to show up? And why hadn’t the archangel mentioned to everyone else ‘Hey- over here!’ Plus Cas was in Chuck’s presence a good deal with the soooper-sekkrit amulet-of-finding-God, and… nada. Now, Chuck being bodily removed to Heaven after having fulfilled his duties? That I see. I whimpered a bit when Cas exploded. ☹ But yay for him being brought back. 😃 Maybe he’ll be a fixture next season. I did like the ‘Did you just molatov cocktail my brother with holy fire??’ Somewhat overwhelmed by the rest of the episode, though. Anticlimactic, I thought. Wondering where they’ll go from here… ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/9 "2010-05-14T18:27:46Z")
I dunno guys, the look on Chuck’s face, his body language…it all said to me that he was in control of where he was going. I think he was clearly meant to have been God all along. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/10 "2010-05-14T19:10:52Z")
> [@bobkitty](#): > > Somewhat overwhelmed by the rest of the episode, though. Anticlimactic, I thought. Wondering where they’ll go from here.. Anticlimactic as far as action, but Sam watching Dean through the window was quiet but powerful. Those boys aren’t meant to be apart. It’ll be interesting, watching them adapt. We should start a pool on how many episodes it’ll take to get them back together. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/11 "2010-05-14T20:13:38Z")
Well, I’m sure you were all waiting for _my_ opinion, so here it is: I liked it, but it took me awhile to get there. I spent the last ten minutes going “what the FUCK?” at the screen and then pretty much gaping in bafflement. Then I started fanwanking and basically what I’ve decided is that the end was some kind of dark satire of a happy ending. Dean goes through this whole traumatic experience, but at the end, he comes home to the love of a good woman. Yes, I have seen this before. Except that this is Supernatural and no one is allowed to be happy and also Dean is far, far, _far_ too messed up to be in any kind of healthy relationship. (The only relationship he has at ALL is with Sam, and they can only put up with each other from a lifetime of practice…and they’ve still tried to kill each other multiple times.) It’s all some kind of front and there’s really no way he can keep it up for long. The show people say they’re going back to a season one vibe for the sixth season and as a friend of mine pointed out, they’ve come full circle - the pilot begins with Dean looking in at Sam’s happy life, and now we have Sam looking in at Dean. It’s not a perfect analogy (since Sam was presumably actually pretty happy with Jess, and I really can’t see Dean being genuinely happy _at all_ because he is such a crazy person, but also because he doesn’t really know Lisa very well and he’s only going through with this because he promised Sam) but it has the potential to be an interesting way to start the next season. [QUOTE=Me last night:] If S6 has Sam and Dean working out of Lisa’s garage and coming home from the hunt in time to catch Ben’s soccer match, I will be PISSED OFF. OTOH, if Lisa is killed off to motivate Dean to get revenge…I will also be PISSED OFF. [/quote] Oh, and I can guarantee they won’t go long without the boys coming back together. The fans would go apeshit if they went for more than an episode apart and SPN’s staff engages is way too much fanservice to want to piss off the fans. Chuck being god…meh. I don’t care. It doesn’t make much sense, but it’s also not a terribly interesting plot point to me. In case it’s not obviously, I’m mostly scratching my head at what is going on in Dean’s crazy brain and wondering _what happened_ to Sam. I am looking forward to reading lots of ideas from the fans over the summer. And now you know what I’ve been thinking about for the last fifteen hours. Good thing I’m unemployed and have no life, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/12 "2010-05-14T20:38:50Z")
The more I think about it, the more I think Chuck really was God. As for the amulet not burning hot in his presence; well, if he’s God I am pretty sure he can short-circuit the amulet. I get the feeling that Lisa is gonna end up as worm food. Something else I thought about; what if Dean really died, and what he’s living now is his heaven? Course that doesn’t totally add up but it’s a thought. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/13 "2010-05-14T21:11:56Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > I get the feeling that Lisa is gonna end up as worm food. I will seriously go apeshit if this happens. SPN has a _bad_ habit of killing women to provide motivation for men and it is tiresome. > [@](#): > > Something else I thought about; what if Dean really died, and what he’s living now is his heaven? Course that doesn’t totally add up but it’s a thought. My thought along those lines was that he was in some kind of dream along the lines of the the djinn’s spell in _What is and What Should Never Be_\* (aka that episode where Dean lives in an alternate universe where he has a girlfriend and his mom is alive but he and Sam aren’t close). But that also doesn’t really make sense. \*You think it’s bad I know the episode titles? Just be glad I gave the outline and didn’t refer to it as WIAWSNB or 2x20. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/14 "2010-05-14T21:17:27Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I dunno guys, the look on Chuck’s face, his body language…it all said to me that he was in control of where he was going. I think he was clearly meant to have been God all along. If so, that’s crap. We have seen Chuck alone before. All alone, with no reason to act like a freaked out man with a migraine, unless he was one. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/15 "2010-05-14T21:39:36Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > If so, that’s crap. We have seen Chuck alone before. All alone, with no reason to act like a freaked out man with a migraine, unless he was one. Agreed. I have no idea what they’re saying here and frankly I don’t really care about Chuck that much, but there is no way Chuck was god the whole time. It makes zero sense. (Okay, that doesn’t always stop SPN.) Fandom is pissed off at this turn of events, though. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/16 "2010-05-14T21:40:46Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > If so, that’s crap. We have seen Chuck alone before. All alone, with no reason to act like a freaked out man with a migraine, unless he was one. Right, in the one where the final gate was opened (I don’t remember what it was exactly…) didn’t we see him all alone ordering 20 hookers? And acting scared out of his mind? ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/17 "2010-05-14T22:11:36Z")
> [@Skara\_Brae](#): > > Right, in the one where the final gate was opened (I don’t remember what it was exactly…) Lucifer Rising. 4x22. To do list for tomorrow 1. Get a life. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/18 "2010-05-14T22:50:32Z")
Yeah, good points about Chuck. It was just odd to see him so totally satisfied when he finished. The look on his face seemed very confident, very “this worked out exactly the way I planned it,” I thought. I really hope they don’t just kill Lisa. I can easily imagine a scenario where Sam is back and hunting with Bobby, they get in trouble and Sam has no choice but to call Dean; and since we’ve established that the whole series is pretty much about devoted family relationships, of course that would bring Dean, Favre-like, out of retirement pretty quickly. They still have some major unresolved issues and storylines to work with next season; still have to resolve the deal with Crowley and Bobby, we still have Jesse the antichrist, and I really, really hope they end up fighting Cthulhu! (I can dream, can’t I?) ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/19 "2010-05-14T23:07:13Z")
[QUOTE=my friend Anne] Wait… Chuck was God? I just thought that he got bodily assumed into Heaven like Prophets are supposed to. [/quote] I like this theory better. [QUOTE=my friend Chase] Have you seen the theory that white-shirt Chuck is God but regular Chuck is just Chuck? Basically, it goes: Regular Chuck, after talking to Dean, went out for a night with Mistress Magda because it’s the last night before everything ends. So God shows up and finishes off the Winchester Gospel. Chuck comes home, drunk and sexed up and is baffled as to who wrote this shit. [/quote] This theory cracks me up. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427/20 "2010-05-15T05:29:47Z")
Wow, that was great! I already knew there wasn’t going to be an epic cosmic smackdown, but the low-budget version was fine. I was surprised we didn’t meet God. Or maybe we did. I screamed, “Cas is God!” I still wouldn’t count him out. Hey, ass-butt! 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-no-supernatural-season-finale-thread/539427.md?page=2)