# What other mammals give us commercial cheese? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 13, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066 "2005-10-13T14:42:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/21 "2005-10-13T16:15:49Z")
> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#): > > No more so than Yak or Water buffalo milk. 😉 (Much less camel milk, given their viciousness.) I may be mistaken, but I was under the impression that oxen were castrated bulls. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/22 "2005-10-13T16:41:00Z")
> [@Maus Magill](#): > > I may be mistaken, but I was under the impression that oxen were castrated bulls. [Not always](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxen#Ox), it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/23 "2005-10-13T16:55:23Z")
Well, this is interesting! Cheese by types of milk: buffalo milk cow and buffalo milk cow and ewe milk cow and goat milk cow and reindeer milk cow ewe and goat milk cow milk cow or ewe milk ewe and camel milk ewe and goat milk ewe milk ewe or goat milk goat milk mare milk yak milk [http://www.cheese.com/milk.asp](http://www.cheese.com/milk.asp) go to the website, click on the milk type, and it’ll tell you what cheeses are made from the milk. Sadly, it is incomplete, but it is a start. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/24 "2005-10-13T17:03:32Z")
OK, so far we’ve got: Cow (duh!) Sheep Goat Camel Mare Yak Moose Reindeer Horse Water Buffalo Zebra Caribou Ass and Canadians :dubious: Any other ungulate candidates? (I don’t think canadians are ungulates) Any cheeses from non-ungulates? And if not, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/25 "2005-10-13T17:24:02Z")
[Juustoleipa](http://www.cheese-recipes.com/Description.asp?Name=Juustoleipa), here is a cheese made with reindeer (and cow) milk. It took a bit to find the name of the cheese, I could find mention of “Laplander cheese made from reindeers” easily enough, but not the name of the cheese itself. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/26 "2005-10-13T17:33:41Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > Anybody got a line on some bison cheese? [Here](http://www.cheese-recipes.com/Description.asp?Name=Buffalo) is a cheese from England, that puports to be made from “buffalo”, but I’m not sure if they mean “water buffalo” or “bison”. (Probably water buffalo.) ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/27 "2005-10-13T17:47:01Z")
Well, I am intrigued by the idea of bison cheese. I pass a bison farm just about every day. I actually called to ask them about cheese, but I only got an answering machine. I’m willing to ask stupid questions over the phone, but I’m not really willing to leave my name and number to do so. Maybe I’ll try again later. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/28 "2005-10-13T18:30:17Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > Any cheeses from non-ungulates? And if not, why not? My WAG is twofold. One, ungulates tend to be large and therefore large-quantity milk producers. According to an article by Dan Savage on the possibilities of human breast milk (not work safe, but here you go: [villagevoice.com/people/0208,savage,32448,24.html](http://villagevoice.com/people/0208,savage,32448,24.html)) it would take 4 days for a human woman to produce enough breast milk for a pound of cheese. Much less time for a large animal intending to feed a large, fast growing baby. Secondly, ungulates all have udders of some sort, don’t they? As a breast-milk pumping mom, lemme tell you, pumping breasts sucks. And not in an effective way. The rounded shape of the breast means that the machine can’t do an effective job of stripping the milk from the body of the breast - it has to simply suck it from the tip. On the udder hand (ha! I crack myself up!), a milking machine or hand for an udder can strip along the length of the milk ducts, removing milk much more effectively. It might just simply not be worth it to invest the time and energy pumping milk from non-uddered animals. ---
**Author:** ![marque\_elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@marque\_elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marque_elf)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/29 "2005-10-13T19:17:05Z")
Dolphin milk cheese? whale milk cheese? walrus milk cheese? I fthe Canadians are burying cheese in bodies of water, then why not a cheese where the animal does the submerging herself? ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/30 "2005-10-13T19:38:09Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > OK, so far we’ve got: > > Ass I, for one, am **NOT** eating ass cheese. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/31 "2005-10-13T20:16:47Z")
> [@plnnr](#): > > I, for one, am **NOT** eating ass cheese. :eek: Good point. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/32 "2005-10-13T20:22:28Z")
> [@plnnr](#): > > I, for one, am **NOT** eating ass cheese. What’s it taste like, I wonder? ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/33 "2005-10-13T20:35:43Z")
> [@Maus Magill](#): > > What’s it taste like, I wonder? Cheese. One of the things the cheesemaker Savage interviewed for that column I linked to says is that cheese flavor depends more on what you do to the milk with bacteria, temperature and flavorings, than it’s original source. (Then again, he thinks breast milk must taste “awful” becaise women eat meat, so what does he know - breast milk actually tastes like melted ice cream…ok, that might have been TMI.) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/34 "2005-10-13T22:54:29Z")
Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/35 "2005-10-14T00:42:28Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > Canadians? I can say my daughter has been quite disappointed with what happens to my wife’s breastmilk after I carry it around in a bottle on a hot day. It easily churns to butter, so I’m sure I could make cheese if I were so inclined. My wife might object, though. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/36 "2005-10-14T01:01:09Z")
What? No love for **Bosda** ’s answer? Hey, **Bosda** , I loved your answer! ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/37 "2005-10-14T01:34:43Z")
I found a cheese called Lappi. It didn’t give it’s source milk. I was trying to find cheeses in places like Russia and Alaska. I ended up in Lapland. I found out two things. 1. The Mexican’s probably have a Sow cheese. Sow as in porcine or pig. Here’s a recipe using Sow Cheese and a few very bizarre ingredients. [http://www.unicornjelly.com/cuisine11.htm](http://www.unicornjelly.com/cuisine11.htm) 2. Long chain fatty acids are not as good for cheese making or taste. Short chain fatty acids are great for making cheese and flavor. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/38 "2005-10-14T15:28:44Z")
When Plains Indians killed a nursing bison calf they’d cut open the stomach and eat the cheese that had formed there. I’m sure they had a name for it, but am unable to find it. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/39 "2005-10-14T20:39:07Z")
Oxen are simply cattle, so we eat ox cheese all the time. Some humans make toe cheese. You couldn’t get me to eat it, but then I’m not shopping for Stinking Bishop, either! (A _Curse of the Were-Rabbit_ reference.) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066/40 "2005-10-14T21:31:35Z")
Is there such thing as dog cheese? [red dwarf] HOLLY: We ran out of cow’s milk months ago. You’ve been drinking dog’s milk. RIMMER: Dog’s milk! HOLLY: Nothing wrong with dog’s milk! It lasts longer than any other kind of milk, dog’s milk! LISTER: Why? HOLLY: 'Cause no bugger’ll drink it! And it tastes the same when it’s fresh as when it’s gone off! [/rd] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-mammals-give-us-commercial-cheese/326066.md?page=3)