# What- OTHER THAN guns- do you think people can't be trusted with?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 20, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242 "2014-01-20T02:13:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/21 "2014-01-20T09:53:24Z")

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Considering the results of most seasons of _American Idol_, the decision about what music to enjoy.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/22 "2014-01-20T10:45:17Z")

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Having kids when you’re under 25. If you want to get pregnant, you should go through a lot of trouble.

Antibiotics, like WhyNot said. Its bad enough that factory farmers use them as a dood group.

Starting a church. Storting a tax- exempt organization where you gold power over individuals should not be possible for anyone with a rap sheet.

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**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/23 "2014-01-20T11:53:21Z")

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**Debt**. An astonishing number of people don’t grasp how difficult it is to pay off large home or college loans.

Also, **Saving for Retirement**. If [Forbes](http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwardsiedle/2013/03/20/the-greatest-retirement-crisis-in-american-history/) is to be believed, the baby boomers have managed to reach retirement age with less then 25K in their (averaged) nest eggs.

Maybe I should combine these into “People cannot be trusted to plan very far ahead.”

Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/24 "2014-01-20T13:24:28Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Antibiotics. Even after a thorough talking to about how important it is to take 'em all, people don’t. And add to that the urge people have to take them for viral infections…bad news, all around.
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> Frankly, I’m not even sure we should trust all \*doctors \*with antibiotics. Some of them are part of the problem, prescribing them without any evidence that the infection is bacterial, or that the bacteria is susceptible to the antibiotic they chose.

I came here to say just that. At least we’re finally now seeing some restrictions on agricultural use.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/25 "2014-01-20T13:26:30Z")

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If self driving cars become an actual thing then future people will be astounded we let the average schlub drive their own ton of steel around.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/26 "2014-01-20T13:27:04Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Radiological material seems an easy one - Pu-239, U-235, Cs-137… I don’t care how cool it is you are \*not \*building a nuclear reactor as a hobby, young man.

You talking to this guy:[David Hahn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn)

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**Author:** ![Farin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Farin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farin)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/27 "2014-01-20T13:58:08Z")

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> [@pullin](#):
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> **Debt**. An astonishing number of people don’t grasp how difficult it is to pay off large home or college loans.

I think the problem is less “debt” and more “living within the means you have.” People don’t try to get a home loan for 50% of their disposable income, they try to get a bigger house for 90% of their disposable income.

I think the actual problem is:

> [@pullin](#):
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> Also, **Saving for Retirement**.

Really, not “for retirement” but saving in general. People need to be taught that saving is better than spending.

There is also the problem that poverty teaches having no saving simply because it’s impossible to save, so when they start making more money, they have to invest an incredible amount of time and energy altering their habits.

I note that this was well taken care of in times past because of the stay-at-home-mom thing. A person could lend her energy to maintaining the finances of the family without having to try and balance that with working while the partner also works. Since we lost that pillar of a stay-at-home-someone who could tend to the home life, we kinda boned ourselves.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/28 "2014-01-20T14:17:30Z")

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Pesticides for home and garden use. People cry “infestation” if any kind of critter, plant of fungus dares to enter the home or garden. Then they buy some kind of poison spray to nuke it form orbit.  
It should be illegal to poison any kind of critter you don’t know the Latin name of and haven’t read the Wikipedia page of. At the very least people should be able to weigh the dangers of the poison for themselves and the environment against the dangers (if any) of having a harmless bug in their garden.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/29 "2014-01-20T14:21:56Z")

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Secrets.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/30 "2014-01-20T15:51:04Z")

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> [@pullin](#):
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> **Debt**.

Credit.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/31 "2014-01-20T15:54:40Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Lethal infectious organisms. I don’t want my neighbor to be fooling around with an Ebola For Dummies biowarfare hobbyist kit.

You can have my lethal infectious organisms when you scrape them off my cold dead hands, commie!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/32 "2014-01-20T16:22:32Z")

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Laws regulating living plants and animals are a good idea. It’s too easy for some invasive species to get loose and wreak havoc in a new environment.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/33 "2014-01-20T16:25:12Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I would put malware on this list, but there really isn’t any way to regulate that.

Classify it as terrorism and send the writers to Gitmo.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/34 "2014-01-20T16:33:38Z")

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> [@Cumberdale](#):
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> > [@Fear Itself](#):
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> > Cars. They should be registered. And drivers should be licensed. Oh, wait…
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> Seconded. Licensing should be much tougher and penalties should be severe.

Whooshed.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/35 "2014-01-20T22:09:37Z")

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Democracy.

It’s wise to let them _think_ they have democracy, though.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/36 "2014-01-20T22:40:27Z")

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Unless there’s a point that has yet to reveal itself, shouldn’t this thread be in IMHO?

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**Author:** ![jbarro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@jbarro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jbarro)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/37 "2014-01-21T00:44:24Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Pesticides for home and garden use. People cry “infestation” if any kind of critter, plant of fungus dares to enter the home or garden. Then they buy some kind of poison spray to nuke it form orbit.  
> It should be illegal to poison any kind of critter you don’t know the Latin name of and haven’t read the Wikipedia page of. At the very least people should be able to weigh the dangers of the poison for themselves and the environment against the dangers (if any) of having a harmless bug in their garden.

Actually, in my city, it IS illegal to use chemical pesticides.

[http://www.halifax.ca/legislation/bylaws/hrm/blp-800.pdf](http://www.halifax.ca/legislation/bylaws/hrm/blp-800.pdf)

Maybe you’d like to move here 🆒

Lawn care companies had to switch to natural products, and you can’t buy chemical pesticides in stores around here. Some people buy elsewhere and apply secretly though.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/38 "2014-01-21T01:37:09Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> You talking to this guy:[David Hahn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn)

That’s the guy I was thinking about yeah, I couldn’t remember his name :). And I see he’s at it _again_. Dude needs to take a hint.

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**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/39 "2014-01-21T01:45:56Z")

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Sunday shopping.

I’m fine with people buying and selling stuff from Monday at 12am until Saturday at 11:59pm, but on Sundays people just can’t be trusted.

Especially cars.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-other-than-guns-do-you-think-people-cant-be-trusted-with/679242/40 "2014-01-21T03:41:49Z")

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> [@randompattern](#):
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> Children

Back up a step… their genitals that might produce children, and then the subsequent children.

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