# What otherwise normal fictional human has the highest ability scores? \[spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 7, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249 "2005-06-07T02:19:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/21 "2005-06-07T20:33:01Z")
My Money is on Harrison Bergeron. He was so genetically superior that the government was unable to bring him down to the lowest common denominator in any category. ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/22 "2005-06-07T21:53:08Z")
> [@parthenokinesis](#): > > My Money is on Harrison Bergeron. He was so genetically superior that the government was unable to bring him down to the lowest common denominator in any category. He was not normal tho, he could fly. ---
**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/23 "2005-06-07T22:11:15Z")
> [@faldureon](#): > > He was not normal tho, he could fly. Could he? I apparently have totally forgotten that part of the story, my mistake. I therefore change my answer to Hagbard Celine. Bond, Batman, Doc Savage, twenty minutes on that submarine and they’d be on Celine’s crew. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/24 "2005-06-07T22:26:25Z")
One “normal” human that had utterly top-drawer Constitution was Will Eisner’s Spirit. My Og! How that man could take a beat, & stay upright. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/25 "2005-06-07T22:32:41Z")
> [@Sauron](#): > > Sherlock Holmes would probably score highly on all of these counts. I initially thought his charisma score wouldn’t be very high, but then I remembered that he had an “uncanny” ability to calm and soothe people who had suffered stress of various types. He could charm almost anyone into providing information he needed. In _Flashman And The Tiger_ an elderly _Flashman_ let Holmes apprehend Colonel Moran {whom he’d much earlier abandoned to a life of white slavery in Dahomey, and who hence bore Flashy a mortal grudge} and thus doom him to the gallows, in order to save himself the inconvenience of backshooting Moran. He then managed to secure his escape by duping the great detective about his identity: Holmes was no match for the cunning of Flashman even in his 70’s. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/26 "2005-06-07T22:44:24Z")
Neena (sp?) from The Fifth Element, and Paul Mu’adib (sp?) from Dune are contenders as both were defined as perfect Human Beings. ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/27 "2005-06-07T22:52:48Z")
What? No Hannibal Lecter, M.D.? -Size for size, strong as an ant -Incredibly, incredibly intelligent, capable of sketching entire cities from memory and strong hundreds of texts in his memory palace -Wise/Insightful - well, debatable, but he has acute understanding of how people work -Charismatic (said to “make a girl’s fur ‘crackle’, you know”) -Capable of resisting large doses of hypnotic drugs; has a very high pain threshold -Good hands (not like that, you sick, sick person) ---
**Author:** ![JCorre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@JCorre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JCorre)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/28 "2005-06-08T00:06:17Z")
Miles Naismith Vorkosigan I wouldn’t bet against him in any challenge he participated in. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/29 "2005-06-08T00:14:14Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Though I admit I can’t recall offhand if he really qualifies as a “normal human” or not… Human, yes. Normal…? I’d vote for Lady Sally or Mary before Mike, to tell the truth. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/30 "2005-06-08T01:08:34Z")
What about Lupin the III? Strong enough to pick up women bodily, Dextrous enough to pick the cleverest of locks and handcuffs, Tough enough to be in explosions and only come away with minor scratches, Smart enough to figure out the weirdest of mysteries, Wise enough to know how people tick, Charismatic enough to have an interantional following of minions (and one very hot Fujiko Mine) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/31 "2005-06-08T01:22:39Z")
[Derek Flint: Agent of Z.O.W.I.E.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059557/) Martial arts master; hypnotist; ladies man; pilot; gourmet; ballet instructor; gadgeteer; weapons experrt; medic, and of course, spy. I don’t know about sheer physical strength, though. He looked pretty thin. And there’s always Angus MacGyver. ('Nuff said.) ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/32 "2005-06-08T12:13:49Z")
> [@dotchan](#): > > What about Lupin the III? > > Strong enough to pick up women bodily, > Dextrous enough to pick the cleverest of locks and handcuffs, > Tough enough to be in explosions and only come away with minor scratches, > Smart enough to figure out the weirdest of mysteries, > Wise enough to know how people tick, > Charismatic enough to have an interantional following of minions (and one very hot Fujiko Mine) > > 😃 And Fool enough to be duped by the aforementioned Fujiko, and any other pretty face that happens by, on a regular basis. 🙂 Although, in Fujiko’s case, he has a good excuse. Pardon me, two good excuses. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/33 "2005-06-08T13:25:14Z")
re: James Tiberius Kirk > [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Plus his Torn Shirt of Ogre Strength. Good point. I also forgot to mention his Grin of Overwhelming Wryness. ---
**Author:** ![Dinaroozie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Dinaroozie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinaroozie)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/34 "2005-06-08T13:35:44Z")
I’m going to have to go with Ace Rimmer - he’s got it all. Honourable mention goes to Wesley (aka The Man in Black) - I’m surprised he hasn’t been mentioned yet. ~ Isaac ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/35 "2005-06-08T13:42:27Z")
Captain America doesn’t have overt superpowers, but would definitely be a contender. Edges Batman in the Physical Stats, but is probably himself edged by Batman in Intelligence and Wisdom. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/36 "2005-06-08T20:48:05Z")
> [@William V.](#): > > re: James Tiberius Kirk > Good point. I also forgot to mention his Grin of Overwhelming Wryness. Don’t forget the Toupee of Overacting! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/37 "2005-06-08T21:21:34Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Yeah, Batman takes this. He can beat anyone with prep time. Say, that gives me a couple of ideas for some **Cafe Society** threads… ---
**Author:** ![rpinrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@rpinrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rpinrd)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/38 "2005-06-08T21:30:35Z")
> [@faldureon](#): > > He was not normal tho, he could fly. I dont think Harrison could actually fly. The story says that they lept closer and closer to the 30 foot ceiling: “And then, neutralizing gravity with love and pure will, they remained suspended in air inches below the ceiling, and they kissed each other for a long, long time.” I take that as literary license and not the actual ability to fly. So stand firm in your convictions **parthenokinesis** because I was going to nominate Harrison before you beat me to it you fast nominating backstabber. ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/39 "2005-06-08T21:48:25Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > And Fool enough to be duped by the aforementioned Fujiko, and any other pretty face that happens by, on a regular basis. 🙂 Only in the anime. In the manga, he’s a lot more, er, successful. > [@](#): > > Although, in Fujiko’s case, he has a good excuse. Pardon me, two good excuses. And he actually gets to score with her (and pretty much every other skirt _coughs_) in the original Monkey Punch series. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249/40 "2005-06-08T22:52:16Z")
> [@dotchan](#): > > Only in the anime. In the manga, he’s a lot more, er, successful. > > And he actually gets to score with her (and pretty much every other skirt _coughs_) in the original Monkey Punch series. I know, I’ve got a shelf in my Barrister’s bookcase stuffed with them. 🙂 But I shouldn’t carp. I was conned by her myself. :o [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=187891&highlight=Fujiko+Nessie](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=187891&highlight=Fujiko+Nessie) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-otherwise-normal-fictional-human-has-the-highest-ability-scores-spoilers/307249.md?page=3)