# What perks do hot women get? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 23, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697 "2009-11-23T21:43:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/1 "2009-11-23T21:43:47Z")
Inspired by **Freudian Slit’s** thread about Randy Cohen’s column, in particular by this post by **Voguevixen**. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11810919&postcount=51](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11810919&postcount=51) How do people fall all over themselves to please extremely attractive women? I’ve heard this claim many times, but never seen any evidence. Maybe I don’t know good-enough looking people? I’m fairly average myself and I have some friends who are eights or nines, but maybe you have to be in the top .001% to get these perks? Although I feel like at that point, what is considered attractive becomes very subjective . . . we all know that a reasonably good-looking, well-groomed girl is more attractive than a morbidly obese bald woman with missing teeth and open sores, but picking between Meghan Fox and Natalie Portman will present more mixed results. Anyways, what are these perks in life that good-looking women get, and how good-looking must you be to to get these perks? Is it like a huge jump when you get into the top 1%, or do the perks more gradually increase as you become attractive? The only thing I’ve ever seen is hot girls being more likely to be hit on in bars, or get into relationship with men who are “catches.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/2 "2009-11-23T21:51:54Z")
Did you just start this thread so you could hit on them? ---
**Author:** ![Livardo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/43a26b/32.png) [@Livardo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Livardo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/3 "2009-11-23T21:52:34Z")
This “hot blonde” I used to know was regularly able to talk her way out of speeding tickets. She claimed it was because of her good looks and she may be right, but she was a master bullshit specialist as well. ---
**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/4 "2009-11-23T21:59:36Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Did you just start this thread so you could hit on them? Haha . . . one of the perks hot women get is people starting threads about them . . . No, I’m not interested in hitting on them . . . I’m just an average-looking straight female wondering what I’m missing out on. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/5 "2009-11-23T22:32:54Z")
I’m dubious that a plethora of guys wanting to bone them is a net perk for woman in general. I’ve not data to support this theory, but I do believe hot women are less often respected in their career fields. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/6 "2009-11-23T22:56:13Z")
I am male but I have had lots of hot female friends over the years. Most of what I have seen is pretty subtle except in New Orleans but it may happen elsewhere too. During Mardi Gras, hot girls get the best beads handed to them (to those not initiated in the culture, this is better than raw cash). It is much harder for males or ugly girls to get them. In particular, the all black (or black-face) Zulu parade gives out the coveted hand decorated coconuts and it is 1000x more difficult to get one of those if you aren’t an attractive female as opposed to any other group. I was a bartender in New Orleans and I gave free drinks to attractive and classy females. It was encouraged as a matter of fact as a form of social conditioning. Trashy females, no matter how physically attractive didn’t get anything at that establishment because we didn’t want them so it wasn’t exclusively about looks. I also had lots of trouble winning any sort of bar contest even when me or the group I was in was the clear winner because some hot female always took the prize. It wasn’t flirting and no one was falling all over themselves just to bang them though. It was just good business practice. Reality and contest TV is really the same thing if you think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Discipline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@Discipline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discipline)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/7 "2009-11-23T23:01:48Z")
> [@Livardo](#): > > This “hot blonde” I used to know was regularly able to talk her way out of speeding tickets. She claimed it was because of her good looks and she may be right, but she was a master bullshit specialist as well. I know another who has never been ticketed despite being pulled over twelve times. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/8 "2009-11-23T23:04:34Z")
> [@Livardo](#): > > This “hot blonde” I used to know was regularly able to talk her way out of speeding tickets. She claimed it was because of her good looks and she may be right, but she was a master bullshit specialist as well. I suppose this is what used to be called Feminine Wiles. Case in point: Major Houlihan on _M_A_S_H,\* who wasn’t above flirting shamelessly to get special consideration from male brass. Which of course didn’t stop her being a firebreathing bitch to every male \*or \*female officer of equal or lesser rank. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/9 "2009-11-23T23:06:18Z")
Looks by themselves aren’t enough. You have to work it. I wouldn’t call my sister “hot” (shudder) but back in her day she was not only attractive, but a master flirt and, like **Livardo’s** friend, a bullshit artist. One time when she changed jobs she was complaining about having to learn new software and no one would help her. “I’m not trying to be mean,” I said. “But whenever something like that happened, didn’t you just bat your eyes, put on your best Texas drawl, and every man within 20 feet would come running?” “Yes, and I still do that.” “So what’s different?” “I weigh 165 pounds now.” ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/10 "2009-11-23T23:09:36Z")
> [@Discipline](#): > > I know another who has never been ticketed despite being pulled over twelve times. I can beat that record by about double despite being a 36 year old male so that may just be confirmation bias. I can talk my way out of just about any situation though so maybe the hot blond is just good at talking to the police and knowing the laws relevant to her state perfectly. Good looks, especially for females, don’t hurt but they don’t have to be the primary reason why someone doesn’t get in trouble very often. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/11 "2009-11-23T23:11:57Z")
Reposted from [an older thread on the same subject](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9523812#post9523812): > [@](#): > > …I escorted one of my former coworkers, an innocent country lass, around London for the evening, and had a glimpse into another world. > > This girl is stunning. I know I can’t say “objectively”, so I’ll just say “comparitively” not just pretty, but obviously, knock-out, stunning: great figure - not catwalk skinny, but the kind men like, with fabulous curves in all the right places - gorgeous face, beautiful eyes, long wavy natural blonde hair, great style, and a winning smile. (And she’s an identical twin, but that’s not relevant to this thread, though it’s a wonderful thought anyway.) > > Anyway, walking round the city with her was a revelation. There were guys walking into lampposts and tripping over stuff when she walked past, and everyone smiled at her wherever we went. In a sandwich shop the guy behind the counter blushed and said “do you mind me saying, I think you’re beautiful?”. People were holding doors for her, and when we went to a restaurant I could see people all over the restaurant sneaking glances or just gawping. When we walked into a pub later, people stopped talking and stared. (Then they looked at me with wry expressions and I imagined they were thinking: “What the..? How did he end up with her..?” or “Good work that man!”) > > She was entirely oblivious to all of this - she knows she’s OK-looking, but doesn’t appear to know she’s breathtaking. Occasionally she seemed surprised that people were saying nice stuff to her. > > And I realised, that’s her life, all the time. In her world, people, and in particular, men, are just friendly and helpful and cheerful. It hasn’t made her a bad person, she’s a nice girl, but she is very naive, and I wonder if this is because of how most of humanity treats her. > > (Although I defer to the great Chris Rock that when a man says to an attractive woman “Can I help you with that?” he’s really saying “You want some DICK with that?”) ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/12 "2009-11-23T23:31:58Z")
When I was a bartender in New Orleans my boss explained it to me this way (he was very much gay BTW). He said that well liquor, the cheap stuff, costs practically nothing when bought in bulk and we couldn’t lose money on it so our job was to make people happy. Attractive female tourists love getting special attention and it also flatters their boyfriends or husbands when you fake interest and envy over her so that is what we did as did everywhere else in the city. We gave them free drinks and little surprises as a business model but it wasn’t just about looks by any measure. No bitch was ever going to get anything no matter how attractive she was and it was all at our discretion and not scripted. The mild flirting was usually faked although I was also sincere if I gave a real compliment. Those groups were always replaced within a few hours and then you move on to the next one. It is fun for all involved but it is just a game. The stuff we gave away was trivial in actual costs though. Giving away free clothing to a hot female that just walks into a store is a completely different matter and a suspect story. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/13 "2009-11-23T23:39:39Z")
\*\*What perks do hot women get? \*\* Not as many as Carrie Prejean seems to believe she should be getting. ---
**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/14 "2009-11-23T23:45:01Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Reposted from [an older thread on the same subject](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9523812#post9523812): I’m not questioning your moral integrity or anything, **jjimm** , but I have to say . . . _really?_ People were _walking into lamposts_? I live in the sticks now, but when I lived in DC, I saw extremely good-looking women everyday, and very beautiful women about once a week. I just cannot imagine the Helen-esque properties of such a woman, who would cause people to literally trip over themselves . . . not even people who are movie-star beautiful, because they are often dolled up when we see them, and they are out and about on the town they are just ordinary beautiful people. _Maybe_ Angelina Jolie, but that is more because she is more striking and has an unusual combination of features, than that she is classically “beautiful,” IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/15 "2009-11-23T23:49:26Z")
The [halo effect](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect) is a big perk. Being assumed to have a good personality, despite evidence to the contrary, can get you quite far if you know how to work it. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/16 "2009-11-23T23:54:39Z")
Based on personal observations, hot women seem to get more rides in helicopters than ordinary-looking people do. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/17 "2009-11-24T00:05:49Z")
> [@Gestalt](#): > > I’m not questioning your moral integrity or anything, **jjimm** , but I have to say . . . _really?_ People were _walking into lamposts_? I live in the sticks now, but when I lived in DC, I saw extremely good-looking women everyday, and very beautiful women about once a week. I just cannot imagine the Helen-esque properties of such a woman, who would cause people to literally trip over themselves . . . not even people who are movie-star beautiful, because they are often dolled up when we see them, and they are out and about on the town they are just ordinary beautiful people. _Maybe_ Angelina Jolie, but that is more because she is more striking and has an unusual combination of features, than that she is classically “beautiful,” IMHO. Spectacular cleavage will cause men to walk into lampposts if the conditions are right. I’ve seen men get sent into a brief trance because of it, and it is certainly possible that if a lamppost was near by that one could walk into it. It happened to me on one Halloween night working at a liquor store. A gorgeous customer walked in wearing a costume that had her love puppies begging to jump out of her tiny outfit. I think she was supposed to be a fight stewardess, but she did not have enough clothes where one could be too sure. Anyway… She had to ask me about three times to ring her up because I briefly forgot what I was doing. That was a good night. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/18 "2009-11-24T01:16:30Z")
What perks do hot women get? Consideration for on-air TV news & weather jobs. All evidence suggests that ordinary-looking women need not apply. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/19 "2009-11-24T01:22:53Z")
This is just a guess here but I’m also going to assume it’s a hell of a lot easier for hot women to get jobs as secretaries, receptionists, “Human Resources” drones who basically do nothing, and various other kinds of office assistants. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/20 "2009-11-24T01:25:56Z")
I wouldn’t describe myself as “extremely attractive”, more like “modestly attractive”, but I’ve occasionally been given a free soda or tea (I don’t drink) by a server or offered free fries at a fast food place. This isn’t at all common, it happens maybe once or twice a year, and it may not always be because the guy thinks I’m good looking. One waiter told me he wasn’t going to charge me for my tea because he liked the science-fiction novel I was reading, which I might not believe except he said his girlfriend had introduced him to that particular author. (I guess he could have been angling for a really geeky threesome, but I doubt it.) In college I had a couple of friends who were extremely good looking (one resembled Beyonce, the other a bustier version of Gwyneth Paltrow), but since we were at a women’s college in a small town I didn’t have much opportunity to see men showering my friends with free goodies. If we went out or attended on-campus mixers I certainly saw guys showering these girls with _attention_, but I never observed or heard of either of them being treated like a movie star or anything. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697.md?page=2)