# What perks do hot women get?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 23, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697 "2009-11-23T21:43:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/81 "2009-11-26T05:22:30Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I am? So uhh, you wanna buy me a boat or something?

I think you have to flirt with me first.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/82 "2009-11-26T08:58:14Z")

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> [@Rex\_Goliath](#):
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> I dated a girl who was easily a 9.5 (she was a ten before she had her baby, no question, the most beautiful girl I’ve ever met. \*\* Also the craziest.\*\*) Anyway, being beautiful got her:
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> [ul]  
> [li]free legal counsel in her child custody hearings[/li][li]untold numbers of gifts from people she explicitly told “i do not like you.”[/li][li]sailing vacations in the carribean[/li][li]lots of modeling money[/li][li]free clothes from said modeling gigs[/li][li] **raped three times** [/li][/ul]
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> One of these things is not like the other ones…

Was she the kind of person that would mention the last thing on that list within 10 minutes of meeting someone? If so, she’s either making it up as an attention getting device or she is severely clueless as to the types of people she associates with.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/83 "2009-11-26T11:02:42Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> You mean the rape? Because being beautiful, even super duper beautiful, does not get anyone raped. Perhaps there is correlation between extra unwanted attention and being good looking (according to whom?), but I really, seriously doubt there is any connection between looks and rape.

I’ve never seen any reason to think that position is anything other than ideologically driven fiction. It simply makes no sense; it seems quite straightforward that a man ruthless enough to rape is more likely to pick a target according to how attractive he finds her.

Unless you mean it as an insult against men in general, and are implying that men are on some kind of crusade against women and will simply rape them for being women regardless of how they look.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/84 "2009-11-26T14:00:05Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I am? So uhh, you wanna buy me a boat or something?

> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> I think you have to flirt with me first.

I gotta say the combo of username to post content on these two is rather meta-funny.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/85 "2009-11-26T15:17:57Z")

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Pssht, he certainly isn’t very bright. If you gotta work for a boat, then how is it a perk?

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Goliath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rex\_Goliath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Goliath)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/86 "2009-11-26T15:25:36Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> Was she the kind of person that would mention the last thing on that list within 10 minutes of meeting someone? If so, she’s either making it up as an attention getting device or she is severely clueless as to the types of people she associates with.

No, she only told me after about 2 months. It was to explain why she had a couple weird hangups about sex. She was also in an abusive relationship for a couple years, so the lowest common denominator is definitely not just her looks. But I think it contributed.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/87 "2009-11-26T15:26:54Z")

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From this third-party disinterested position, it would appear both sides are unclear in the rules of this conflagration. 😃

How many calories are there in a flirt?

ETA: This is in reference to the MeanOldLady/Really not all that Bring conversation, not the ‘abusive, sexual hangup, trainwreck’ conversation.

So it appears I’m living up to MY username, too.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/88 "2009-11-26T15:38:44Z")

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I got a “perk” I’d like give a hot woman, right here.  
I do apologise. I don’t know what came over [del]you[/del] me.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/89 "2009-11-26T15:40:46Z")

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> [@Gestalt](#):
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> I rarely get harassed by ex-bfs and admirers and such as much as my friends do, and I think it’s because I’m pretty good at giving the death stare and telling men to stop. calling. me.

This usually works. It’s unfortunate that men don’t believe in things such as subtlety or hints, so you have to use extremely blunt language when rejecting them. It isn’t fun, but is necessary. Sadly, even explicitly clear, unequivocal rejection doesn’t work 100% of the time. Some men I think need to be killed in order for them to stop bothering you. Hmm, I think this is the second time this week I have suggested killing might be the solution to a problem. We need a “Why am I so frequently advocating murder these days?” emoticon.

> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#):
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> ETA: This is in reference to the MeanOldLady/Really not all that Bring conversation, not the ‘abusive, sexual hangup, trainwreck’ conversation.
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> So it appears I’m living up to MY username, too.

That’s okay, we’ll stay let you play with us. But I’m gonna need a boat.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/90 "2009-11-26T16:13:09Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> That’s okay, we’ll stay let you play with us. But I’m gonna need a boat.

Mind if it’s slightly used? (runs upstairs to make sure there’s still a toy tugboat in the kid’s bathroom)

I’m afraid in my own personal world, you gotta replace ‘boat’ with Hearse, and my wife’s already got the only Hearse I’m buyin’, and I don’t have a spare 21 feet to store another if it’s not up to your standards. (Although I might…if the wife finds I’m buying other women cars.)

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/91 "2009-11-26T16:15:48Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> But I’m gonna need a boat.

And if your ass gets fat, you’re gonna need a bigger boat.

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**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/92 "2009-11-26T16:18:52Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> This usually works. It’s unfortunate that men don’t believe in things such as subtlety or hints, so you have to use extremely blunt language when rejecting them. It isn’t fun, but is necessary. Sadly, even explicitly clear, unequivocal rejection doesn’t work 100% of the time. Some men I think need to be killed in order for them to stop bothering you. Hmm, I think this is the second time this week I have suggested killing might be the solution to a problem. We need a “Why am I so frequently advocating murder these days?” emoticon.

**MeanOldLady** , I have no trouble believing that you would also be good at death stare + unequivocal rejection. And I mean that as the highest possible compliment. 🙂  
But I think lots of women need to either work on being bitchier/meaner, or on being honest with themselves about what they want. For example, my friend had this guy who was interested in her, and she complained about how he wouldn’t stop calling her and would show up where she was. I don’t understand how difficult it is to not answer the damn phone in situations like that. Geez.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/93 "2009-11-26T16:22:10Z")

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Ya know, this thread really is worthless without pics.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/94 "2009-11-26T16:39:33Z")

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I think that being attractive helps women in some jobs. Generally, anything that puts one’s image before people. This can range from sales and customer service to higher-profile jobs in media or politics (I was going to answer the OP, “Vice-presidential nominations?” 😃 ).

But I think that very attractive women can find their looks a hindrance to being taken seriously in fields where this benefit is non-existant, and the required competence doesn’t involve much communication or interaction.

My cousin married a very attractive woman who had done modeling, who was employed in medical research, and she claimed that it helped her to dress and groom herself to look more plain. She wore a more ‘practical’ pair of eyeglasses at work than at social occasions.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/95 "2009-11-26T16:40:25Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I’ve never seen any reason to think that position is anything other than ideologically driven fiction. It simply makes no sense; it seems quite straightforward that a man ruthless enough to rape is more likely to pick a target according to how attractive he finds her.

How are women to know how attractive one rapist or another will find them? Unless they can figure out the likes and dislikes of every single one (skinny, fat, black, white, barely pubescent, senior), perhaps by poll, then I’m really not sure one could generalize. Especially when people’s secret desires often conflict with what they’re supposed to like. And I’m not sure, if it was found that all supermodels and ‘9s’ (whatever they are) are 50 times more likely to be raped, what could be done with the information. Self-mutilation? A ban on acne creams? Breast reductions? A huge sigh of relief from the chunky girls. Until one of them gets raped. And no one believes them because ‘Who would want to rape y_ou_?’ (which goes up there along with ‘Why would _he_ need to rape anybody?’).

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/96 "2009-11-26T16:47:48Z")

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aaaaand the thread spins wildly, hyperbolicly, in an unfun direction.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/97 "2009-11-26T16:55:11Z")

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It became unfun for me when I realized nobody was gonna buy me a boat.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/98 "2009-11-26T16:56:48Z")

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I didn’t say I wouldn’t, I was just preparing you to set your sights a little bit lower.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/99 "2009-11-26T17:07:53Z")

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a submarine?

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**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-perks-do-hot-women-get/518697/100 "2009-11-26T17:29:51Z")

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Sunken wreckage?

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