# What Political Parties Would You Support In Other Countries

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 25, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242 "2010-10-25T02:57:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/41 "2010-10-28T22:22:09Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> They are rather too liberal and just ignore the main issue. I’d go with DUP then.

Ignore what main issue?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/42 "2010-10-28T23:33:00Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> Ignore what main issue?

They are “neutral” on the Union issue.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/43 "2010-10-30T15:33:26Z")

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I think the main issue is people being able to get work, and feed, cloth, shelter and educate their children, pretty much the same as anywhere else. This requires a stable and largely neutral government, within or without the Union.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/44 "2010-10-30T19:21:46Z")

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A typically socialist viewpoint.

Surely you see that the moral question of nationalism against unionism is more important than something like people’s welfare, which the government has no business meddling with.

Although I can’t quite figure out how, as an American, it’s so easy to choose between the two.

Would Michael Collins have been a Reagan worshipper?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/45 "2010-10-31T01:39:15Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> I think the main issue is people being able to get work, and feed, cloth, shelter and educate their children, pretty much the same as anywhere else. This requires a stable and largely neutral government, within or without the Union.

So when the South tried to secede what was the most important political issue-secession or something else?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/46 "2010-10-31T14:20:02Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> A typically socialist viewpoint.
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> Surely you see that the moral question of nationalism against unionism is more important than something like people’s welfare, which the government has no business meddling with.
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> Although I can’t quite figure out how, as an American, it’s so easy to choose between the two.
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> Would Michael Collins have been a Reagan worshipper?

Am I being whooshed here?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/47 "2010-10-31T15:18:53Z")

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Is it that subtle?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/48 "2010-10-31T15:58:45Z")

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/49 "2010-10-31T16:01:02Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> Is it that subtle?

For my hangover-addled cranium, yes, yes it is.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/50 "2010-10-31T16:03:06Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> So when the South tried to secede what was the most important political issue-secession or something else?

Apples, meet oranges.

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**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/51 "2010-10-31T22:29:39Z")

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Suspect our Australian Liberals are too left for you Qin. You’d be a Nationals supporter for sure. Yeah, we got Tony Abbot (aka The Mad Monk) but the Libs also have Malcom Turnbull, who I have quite a bit of respect for.

On the other hand, you’d be all in love with (platonically, of course) Barnaby Joyce. Ugh.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/52 "2010-11-06T02:03:39Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> No, I am a white American citizen. Even if I were to obtain Thai citizenship (haha!), naturalized citizens are not allowed to vote.

It seems I am behind the times. This changed three years ago upon enactment of the 2007 constitution. That changed the situation to allow naturalized citizens the right to vote, but not until they’ve been citizens for five years. (Monks still cannot vote. They’re supposed to be above politics.)

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-parties-would-you-support-in-other-countries/558242/53 "2010-11-10T01:45:28Z")

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That’s something I’ve not been able to determine in Mexico. There’s both the idea of “national” and “citizen” here, and only citizens can vote. Anyone can nationalize if they follow the rules and qualify. As far as I can tell, “citizens” are “nationals” that are over 18 and follow the law. But I’m not certain that nationalized citizens (i.e., not born of the blood) can vote, and I’m fairly certain that they can’t hold office. (There’s a _lot_ of paranoia towards the foreign-born in this country, more-so than in the USA, and probably not without its reasons. As is, I’m not allowed to voice a political opinion.)

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