# what political views do I have now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 16, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456 "2014-02-16T02:53:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456/21 "2014-02-22T08:07:25Z")
> [@](#): > > Of course I can. And do! We all do! That’s why there are controversies like abortion, gun rights, gay marriage, the death penalty, privacy, and welfare. We all are involved in the great collective debate that creates a new consensus, day by day. No , I was making reference to the civil war.Many liberals look at it as good thing.That slavery was bad so you go along with the program to trump state rights.But do not realized you will be screaming and yelling if the north tried to pass law to keep slavery at federal level and each state cannot say no to slavery.Or in 5 or 10 years from now a new Bush tried to push god in every state ,ban abortion and gay marriage. That what I was trying say by pick and choose. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456/22 "2014-02-22T09:51:18Z")
Tamper your foreign policy views a bit, drop your Rebel sympathies, and come join the Democratic Party. Besides what I mentioned, you sound like a pretty good populist Democrat with pragmatic and semilibertarian views which we certainly need more of in the party. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456/23 "2014-02-22T11:43:51Z")
Or declare yourself an independent and vote for candidates based on their stance on issues you care about and perhaps support independent candidates when possible. Nobody says you have to pick a side. ---
**Author:** ![Farin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Farin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farin)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456/24 "2014-02-22T16:12:08Z")
> [@sweat209](#): > > What do you mean. I explained exactly what I mean. > [@sweat209](#): > > What do you mean the constitution was not clear? The founding fathers feared too much centralization of government would be like the UK. And the point of democracy would be question.Is it true democracy. Look at the constitution again. It does not say “The federal government shall have no rights unless written into this document.” It says “What wasn’t written here will be considered a power of the states.” It doesn’t stop the federal government from taking on new powers either by accretion or by donation. The exact configuration of Federal vs State powers has always been in flux as a result. > [@sweat209](#): > > Stop looking at it from moral point of view.Your support big federal government to tell the state what they can or cannot do.You are looking at it from moral point of view that slavery was bad. And well yes slavery was bad. > > But you don’t realized it can go the other way.If you allow the federal government to tell the state what they can or cannot do.What to stop new Bush in the future banning gays and lesbian in all states or pushing god in all states!! You can’t pick and choose what you think is morally right. I’m not looking at it from a moral point of view. False attribution, assumption, and putting words in others’ mouths isn’t useful to any debate. I specifically looked at it from a “this is how the government is currently running” vantage point. Please elaborate on how it’s running “wrong.” If it’s purely a states’ rights view from your side, okay. I accept that you have a different view of how that configuration should look. From the opposite side, can you tell me why your ideal would be better? What efficiencies and such can be derived from your ideal system? Inefficiencies? > [@sweat209](#): > > It like saying well person did shoplifting and trigger happy cops all shot the man that had no weapon that send the cops to hell for that!! Well little did people know that guy was planning to do a mass shooting at the mall the next day.By shooting the guy they stop a mass shooting at the mall. …What? > [@sweat209](#): > > The world does not play that way.By allowing the feds to tell the state what they can or cannot do , base on modern morality that slavery was bad , you than open the pandora box for all kinds of unforeseen things.And if you keep allowing the federal government more power in the future ⭕oyour liberals may find new Bush trying to ban gays and lesbian in all states or pushing god in all states or banning abortion all states!! The executive branch is not a dictatorship It cannot do this. Though, I personally believe that too much power has been granted by the legislature. However, should the time come that Obama Jr or Bush Mark 3 come to power and attempt to do so, I’m fairly certain that they will be removed from power via violence. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456/25 "2014-02-22T16:54:09Z")
I think you could stand to become better informed on some of these issues before you decide what label to apply to yourself. And it’s true that not that many people fit 100% into either of the two national parties. > [@sweat209](#): > > When it comes to war ,dealing with other countries and defence so on , I support Bush in fact he should have gone to war with North Korea and Iran long ago. What I don’t support is Iraq war. Like other posters, I have no idea how this is supporting Bush. He may have wanted to go after Iran in theory, but he didn’t, and the U.S. was never close to war with North Korea. It still isn’t. And he did choose to go after Iraq, which you say was a bad idea. Are you talking about an approach to diplomacy or international relations? > [@](#): > > I support strong army and don’t mess with my country. This doesn’t really mean anything. > [@](#): > > On to abortion and gay and lesbian stuff now. Wait- why are these being lumped together? > [@](#): > > any gay or lesbian stuff a more a centrist government and should be state better and NEVER a federal matter. So what do you think should actually happen here? What’s “a more a centrist government?” > [@](#): > > Now on to illegal immigrants they should be put in jail Everybody on both sides of the partisan divide - except a few extremists - admits that this is totally impossible. Which is good, because it really is impossible and a terrible idea from an economic standpoint. Since there’s no way 11 million illegal immigrants are going to be jailed, what is your backup plan? > [@](#): > > immigration and racial issues should be a centrit government What? > [@](#): > > end the politically correct stuf. I don’t support people being racist but politically correct stuff got to stop. What does this mean? I don’t have a clue. On to issues like sex ,drugs and prostitution , I suuport small goverment and there is no need for big brother telling people want they can or cannot do. > [@](#): > > And confederate suppoters claim the civil war was over state right not slavery the founding fathers wanted a decentralized government They’re full of shit. The war was mostly the CSA’s desire to continue practicing slavery. > [@](#): > > It can go both ways no matter people political view.The liberals complain of conservative government pushing god , anti-abortion and anti-gay rights , harsh drug laws.Well the conservative complain liberals pushing the opposite views!!! That doesn’t mean they’re equally wrong. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456/26 "2014-02-22T17:12:06Z")
Why do you repeatedly bring up “confederate supporters”? This is very odd to me and I must admit, it makes me a bit wary. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456/27 "2014-02-22T17:12:54Z")
> [@sweat209](#): > > I was mostly liberal but have some conservative views along with some anarchy and libertarian views that I cannot pin point what I A’m any more. Then read [this](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies). All of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-political-views-do-i-have-now/681456.md?page=1)