# What positions have never been advocated on the SDMB? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 3, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156 "2006-04-03T22:27:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/21 "2006-04-04T02:17:37Z")
A person once wrote a strong defence of necrophilia in a pit thread, and as a result was suspected to be into it himself, but dissapeared in quick order. An overt “dog lover” once advocated bestiality in GQ (though personnally I’m not sure what all the fuss is about regarding bestiality, I mention it since many people see this as a very very bad thing). ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/22 "2006-04-04T02:31:08Z")
[QUOTE=xtisme] Aldy (my post is my cite)? I’m not sure if he was a SUPPORTER, but at various times he certainly seemed sympathetic (to the idea of Arab nationalism at the very least). -XT [/QUOTE] I don’t think it’s very honest to associate \*\* Aldebaran \*\* (whose banning I still regret) with Al Quaeda in any way, shape and form. He had a strong stance, that didn’t fit well in a majorly american and otherwise 100% western board, but would be quite lame in many an islamic (non-extremist) board I visited. He offered another perspective, and certainly with more restraint than some posters have displayed in the past regarding the arab world or Islam. He was IMO an asset for this board, regardless how irritated some people were by his anti-american stance. IMO we’re sorely lacking representants of other cultures and points of view here (it’s my primary issue with this board, actually) and his departure was a loss. If we had arabic posters aplenty here my point of view could be different, but we don’t. ---
**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/23 "2006-04-04T02:44:05Z")
In an abortion discussion there was mention of whether ‘birth’ was a clear line for deciding when a right to life would begin. In the course of this, someone mentioned that some people, indeed, believe that parents have an absolute right to kill their own children (i.e. even several years old). Now, the poster wasn’t actually advocating this, they were merely mentioning the existence of this viewpoint. I don’t think there has ever been anyone here who did argue for it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/24 "2006-04-04T03:21:56Z")
[QUOTE=panamajack] In an abortion discussion there was mention of whether ‘birth’ was a clear line for deciding when a right to life would begin. In the course of this, someone mentioned that some people, indeed, believe that parents have an absolute right to kill their own children (i.e. even several years old). Now, the poster wasn’t actually advocating this, they were merely mentioning the existence of this viewpoint. I don’t think there has ever been anyone here who did argue for it. [/QUOTE] Yes, there has. I can’t cite the thread, but I’m 100% certain. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/25 "2006-04-04T03:34:34Z")
Any orgone-ists? ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/26 "2006-04-04T03:35:19Z")
I had a Cydonia/intelligent civilization on Mars/Richard Hogaland nut [post on my board once](http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19052). I don’t think I’ve seen that here on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/27 "2006-04-04T03:42:51Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Yes, there has. I can’t cite the thread, but I’m 100% certain. [/QUOTE] Was it **Blalron** ’s [Infanticide should be legal](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=239288)? ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/28 "2006-04-04T05:03:59Z")
[QUOTE=jjimm] There’s been at least one full-on Marxist. I find it interesting that there’s been only one that I’ve observed, considering how popular Marxism used to be, even up until the 1980s. I suppose it collapsed with the Berlin Wall. [/QUOTE] Nah, it would just be hopeless to try and get a serious discussion on the subject on a predominantly American board. Been there, done that. > [@Shagnasty](#): > > We had one advocating abolishing farming world-wide. Really? Was he advocating a return to a hunter-gatherer society, or did he have another plan? > [@Colibri](#): > > I am sure there has been little if any witnessing on the part of the Amish. I could certainly argue in favour of a lowtech lifestyle, but the very act of doing so would pretty much smash my credibility. > [@clairobscur](#): > > An overt “dog lover” once advocated bestiality in GQ (though personnally I’m not sure what all the fuss is about regarding bestiality, I mention it since many people see this as a very very bad thing). Yeah, it’s the whole “sex with a nonconsenting partner” thing. Gets up some people’s goats. Stuckups. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/29 "2006-04-04T05:23:03Z")
[QUOTE=Tyrrell McAllister] Was it **Blalron** ’s [Infanticide should be legal](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=239288)? [/QUOTE] I honestly wouldn’t recognize it if I saw it again. But I’m certain that position was argued by someone in at least one thread. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/30 "2006-04-04T05:23:36Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] Really? Was he advocating a return to a hunter-gatherer society, or did he have another plan? I could certainly argue in favour of a lowtech lifestyle, but the very act of doing so would pretty much smash my credibility. [/QUOTE] The First Rule of Project Mayhem is: _You do not talk about Project Mayhem._😉 ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/31 "2006-04-04T05:39:00Z")
Well, it’s not too surprising given the enlightened and liberal tilt of this board, but I’m pretty sure that no one here has ever advocated the missionary mission. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/32 "2006-04-04T05:42:35Z")
Has anybody here _really_ advocated a Christian theocracy-type government? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/33 "2006-04-04T05:47:52Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Arab nationalism, yes, but al Qaeda’s agenda is quite different from that. Aldy never advocated Islamic Theocracy. [/QUOTE] I don’t think at its core Arab Nationalism is that different than what AQ is pushing. YMMV of course, and you are probably right about the Theocracy bit…I never got the impression he was all that married to a Theocracy or even (specifically) to Muslim law. And he would certainly differ from AQ on that point if nothing else. In that case then no…I can’t think of anyone else who comes close to advocating AQ (APOLOGIZING for them perhaps, making excuses for them perhaps…but not full fledged advocation 😛 ). [QUOTE=clairobscur] I don’t think it’s very honest to associate Aldebaran (whose banning I still regret) with Al Quaeda in any way, shape and form. [/QUOTE] Perhaps not. Certainly I don’t think he advocated everything AQ stood for (like John’s point about the Theocracy)…but he DID advocate violence against America (though not against the entire Western World…another point of difference between Aldy and AQ), and he certainly advocated Arab Nationalism IMHO. That said I agree with you…I regretted his banning as well. I wasn’t surprised mind you…but I was a bit sad when it happened. I actually kind of liked the guy when all was said and done. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/34 "2006-04-04T05:51:00Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] Has anybody here _really_ advocated a Christian theocracy-type government? [/QUOTE] **His4ever** did, if I’m not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/35 "2006-04-04T07:21:27Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] **His4ever** did, if I’m not mistaken. [/QUOTE] Ah, maybe so. I think I missed most of her tenure, and it seems we never interacted. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/36 "2006-04-04T07:52:49Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] We had one advocating abolishing farming world-wide. [/QUOTE] I seem to vaguely recall this, was it, perhaps, **jmullaney** that you are thinking of? ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/37 "2006-04-04T15:51:55Z")
[QUOTE=Crandolph] …Has there ever been Church of Satan? Alcohol prohibitionists? New Coke fans..? [/QUOTE] IANASatanist, but I’m pretty knowledgable about LaVey, and I think at one point outlined a few of his “beliefs”, as well as the histry and schism of the CoS in a not-negative way. They’re really a lot like Dopers: dedicated to irradicating ignorance They just think it’s OK to scare and mock people while they do it. Quite a bit like the inhabitants of the Pit, come to think of it. So, if you want a position supporting CoS, I guess I’m your gal. Baby killing “Satanists”, you’ll have to keep looking. (If any even exist.) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/38 "2006-04-04T17:32:59Z")
I’m likely wrong on this, but in many animal-rights threads, I find myself defending the animal-rights viewpoint even though it’s one that I disagree with, simply because there’s nobody else advocating it, and there’s a lot of (what appears to me to be) misunderstanding about the viewpoint. Have we had folks on the board who advocated a Peter-Singeresque AR position? About about any position in favor of targeting civilians for murder in order to achieve political change? Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/39 "2006-04-04T18:10:46Z")
> [@](#): > > About about any position in favor of targeting civilians for murder in order to achieve political change? I don’t think that that would be allowed by the mods. That was the sort of thing that I was thinking of when I included condition (c) in my OP. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156/40 "2006-04-04T18:20:11Z")
[QUOTE=NoClueBoy] Luddites? [/QUOTE] Or any truly anti technology stance. They just wouldn’t be here, on a message board, on the internet, on a computer… Get the picture? However. I have noticed in certain GD and Pit threads a profound bias in some people against technological progress. Or, certain technological advances. They always get shouted down by the hypocrisy of their promoting ANY anti technology stance on a message board, on the internet, on a computer… I love seeing those guys justify. Both sides. However however, I see no real problem with bemoaning or disapproving of certain specific technologies, and doing so on a message board, etc… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-positions-have-never-been-advocated-on-the-sdmb/351156.md?page=3)