# What Purpose do Fleas Serve?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 22, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252 "2014-08-22T23:32:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/41 "2014-08-24T15:10:16Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> Ukulele tuning.

> [@GESancMan](#):
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> Playing bass.

😕

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/42 "2014-08-24T15:17:12Z")

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> [@tnetennba](#):
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> Well, sometimes if parents will not condone a marriage, a flea can bite both lovers and by letting their blood mingle in its tiny chamber, become marriage bed and temple. If you’re into that kind of thing, I mean.

I think we’re donne here.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/43 "2014-08-24T15:23:27Z")

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A flea _is_ a hairy diadem to another flea, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/44 "2014-08-24T15:30:16Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> 😕

[Red Hot Chili Peppers](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea_(musician)) for the bass ref.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/45 "2014-08-24T15:35:38Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> A flea _is_ a hairy diadem to another flea, I suppose.

I just thought of, and TM now, the insult of calling a woman a flying cunt–a fearsome relative of a bitch on wheels.

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**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/46 "2014-08-24T20:40:32Z")

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> [@tnetennba](#):
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> He is also greatly underestimating the energy of even one imploding star. No way even the most hateful human being can generate that much heat.

“He” is a she, last time I checked. And I was simply making a statement as to how much I do hate fleas.

I just _love_ how I can’t ask a question here without being ridiculed.

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**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/47 "2014-08-24T20:44:26Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Yep. I can’t see how the thread question can make sense in any context other than some sort of ‘intelligent design’ belief, looking for support for that belief. And I doubt that General Questions is the right sub-forum at SDMB for discussion of that. (What would be…IMHO? Great Debates?)
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> I’m not trying to characterize the OP. I am just assuming (unless corrected) that the idea that a particular life form must ‘serve a purpose’ in the Earth biosphere comes out of creationist or related modes of belief.

No, I am not a creationist religious fanatic in the least. Lost any belief in a ‘god’ a long time ago. Perhaps I didn’t phrase my question very well, or perhaps I’m just an easy target. Maybe a little of both. What I wonder is: Is there an ECOLOGICAL PURPOSE for fleas? If they vanished, what impact would be made?

Is that better?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/48 "2014-08-24T21:17:25Z")

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That’s… not much better. No species has an “ecological purpose”.  
Like, plovers clean crocodiles’ teeth and find their food that way (also avoid getting munched) in a neat symbiotic relationship ; but it would be silly to say that the purpose of plovers is to clean croc teeth, just as it would be silly to say the purpose of a crocodile is to provide food and protection to plover colonies.

They both exist. They both perpetuate themselves, first through feeding, then through reproduction. And that’s it. The same is true for every other living being out there, from amoebas to planet-sized psychic space whales (_SotS_, anybody ?).

If all fleas suddenly popped out of existence, well, fleas would be much bummed. Maybe another parasite would get its chance to shine and be complete freeloading dicks - at least that’s what happens in the corporate world :). But maybe not.

I’ll tell you, though, the social life of chimps would probably be very negatively impacted. Picking fleas off each other’s fur is a big bonding and community-building ritual among them I believe. Though I suppose they could just switch to alcohol and oral sex like everyone else.

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**Author:** ![thecavalry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@thecavalry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thecavalry)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/49 "2014-08-24T21:21:24Z")

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No animal exists to provide some purpose. They exist because they’re good at propagation.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/50 "2014-08-24T21:34:30Z")

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A curious creature is the flea.  
You cannot tell the He from She.  
But He can tell,  
And so can She.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/51 "2014-08-24T22:54:26Z")

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> [@PapSett](#):
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> What I wonder is: Is there an ECOLOGICAL PURPOSE for fleas? If they vanished, what impact would be made?
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> Is that better?

Your error is in using the word “purpose.” As has been said, the only purpose of a species is to make more of itself.

You appear to be talking about the species’ role in an ecological system. Parasites are just a much a part of any ecological system as predators. You might as well ask what purpose predators serve. In fact, ecologically speaking parasites fill a similar role to predators. The difference is that they only eat a little bit of their prey at a time, and don’t kill it outright. Parasites play a major role in controlling host populations, just as predators do. Severe parasite infestations can debilitate or even kill a host, thus reducing the numbers of the host species and preventing it from over-exploiting other species.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/52 "2014-08-24T22:56:25Z")

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Among other things, fleas played a vital role in European history. Due to their tireless efforts they ended feudalism.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/53 "2014-08-24T23:09:05Z")

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A flea and a fly in a flue  
Were trapped. What could they do?  
“Let us flee!” said the fly.  
“Let us fly!” said the flea.  
So they flew through a flaw in the flue.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/54 "2014-08-25T19:58:44Z")

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This thread has become a tribute to Ogden Nash. (And, why not?)

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/55 "2014-08-25T20:10:38Z")

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**Banquo** :  
…Fly, good Fleance, fly, fly, fly!

_Macbeth III:3:17_  
Your turn.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/56 "2014-08-25T22:47:20Z")

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Ogden Nash, he was smitten  
With doggerel, and other verse  
Once by a flea, he was bitten  
Causing him, to rage and curse

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**Author:** ![CC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CC)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/57 "2014-08-25T23:25:44Z")

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\*Some people think that fleas are black  
But I don’t think it’s so,  
Cuz Mary had a little lamb  
With fleas as white as snow. \*

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/58 "2014-08-25T23:49:58Z")

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Through three cheese trees three free fleas flew.  
While these fleas flew, freezy breeze blew.  
Freezy breeze made these three trees freeze.  
Freezy trees made these trees’ cheese freeze.  
That’s what made these three free fleas sneeze.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/59 "2014-08-26T18:41:06Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Yep. I can’t see how the thread question can make sense in any context other than some sort of ‘intelligent design’ belief, looking for support for that belief. And I doubt that General Questions is the right sub-forum at SDMB for discussion of that. (What would be…IMHO? Great Debates?)
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> I’m not trying to characterize the OP. I am just assuming (unless corrected) that the idea that a particular life form must ‘serve a purpose’ in the Earth biosphere comes out of creationist or related modes of belief.

Really? you can’t see how it makes sense in any other context? How about this:

"I hate fleas! I wish they would just disappear from the planet. However, i remember some stories about bees dying off in large numbers and how that would negatively affect human beings (because of pollination or something, doesn’t matter), and I also hate spiders, but I know they kill a lot of other insects so getting rid of all spiders might have a detrimental affect on human beings and/or the environment.

I wonder if killing of all the fleas in the world would have any similar negative affects on human beings and/or the environment? I know, I’ll ask the helpful people at the Dope, and see if anyone has any insights on whether or not the lack of fleas in the world would have a significant effect on human beings and/or the environment."

Now, seems to me that is what the OP meant but childish nursery rhymes and incessant nit-pickery is what she got, instead of intelligent use of context clues to determine what the question was. Nice.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-purpose-do-fleas-serve/696252/60 "2014-08-26T19:15:02Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> incessant nit-pickery is what she got

Actually, that’s a whole different [order](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louse) of parasites. 😃

But your point is well taken.

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