# What radicalized white voters in 2016?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 14, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-radicalized-white-voters-in-2016/817909 "2018-07-14T19:18:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-radicalized-white-voters-in-2016/817909/121 "2018-07-19T16:01:47Z")

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> So you solve discrimination by discrimination? So as a perceived white guy, not only do I did I have to score much higher then a perceived minority to get into college, think about that for a second. Is that fair? Is that right?

Me: Cops are killing black people.  
You: I didn’t get into the college I wanted to go to!  
Me: Republicans routinely pass legislation for the express purpose of attacking gay people.  
You: What if I have to go to a _state_ college!  
Me: Remember this story about hundreds of Republicans converging at the border to scream curses at busloads of refugee children?  
You: Why am I treated _so unfairly_?

Anyway, maybe you can kinda see why nobody is taking your complaints seriously.

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> Personally I don’t care what color you are, who you happen to be banging, unless of course I’m buying the tape, you don’t end discrimination by discrimination.

Yes, your general lack of caring is certainly evident. Continue your support of naked bigots in high office, because your personal lack of prejudice certainly excuses you from any culpability in the prejudicial policies they will pursue in office.

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> As far as the systematic slaughter of black people by the state, about 1,200 black were killed by the police in 2015. FBI’s uniform crime-reporting data for 2016, 90.1 percent of black victims of homicide were killed by other blacks, while 83.5 percent of whites were killed by other whites personally if I were black I’d be far more worried about another black then I would about a cop shooting me. Of course we all know it not the fault of any minority group, they only commit crime because they are poor oppressed of course white people who are poor oppressed don’t get the same breaks because they are white. Ran into that one my self because I refuse to be enroll and I’m considered to be white, I didn’t qualify, if on the other hand if I enrolled, my college would be paid for.
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> If you want police to stop shooting minorities the first thing is stop breaking the law. If you want minority business to get ahead shop at minority business, if you want to get into college got to school and get good grades. It not that hard, millions of minorities have done, the people holding you back isn’t the white man it you. Like I’ve pointed out I refuse to enroll as a NA, despite the advantages it would give me. Because if I’m not good enough as a “white guy” I’m not good enough as a minority.

Standard-model conservative hypocrisy. “_Your_ problems are because of poor moral character. _My_ problems are because society’s rigged against me.” Never mind that your “problem” is you might have to go to your safety school, and my problem is that Republicans are using the state as a weapon to break up my family. Remind me again which specific bootstrap I need to pull on to stop Republicans from trying to take away my marriage rights? Which stores do I need to shop at to do that? What sort of grades do I need to get before conservatives stop trying to prevent folks like me from adopting? I’ve never been charged with a crime more serious than a speeding ticket – at what point does that get Republican politicians to stop comparing my romantic relationships to beastiality? At the very least, what does it take for you to stop voting for them? How much of a model minority do I need to be before you do something about the naked hatred being spewed by your political leadership?

And, keep in mind that the genesis of our exchange here was you whingeing about being “villainized.” When I pointed out exactly where the villainization is coming from in American politics, you dropped that argument with a quickness and pivoted to bitching about AA. Don’t think folks missed that little side-step. You want to revisit that argument? I’ve got a collection of choice Rick Santorum quotes to contribute.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-radicalized-white-voters-in-2016/817909/122 "2018-07-19T18:26:18Z")

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> [@postpic200](#):
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> So you solve discrimination by discrimination? So as a perceived white guy, not only do I did I have to score much higher then a perceived minority to get into college, think about that for a second. Is that fair? Is that right? Had a minority scored much higher than me in SAT and then get turned down what would you say then? No matter how you cut it affirmative action has been around since 1961 45+ years, during which time the government set aside contracts that a white man could not bid on, required government contractors to have x % pf their employees to be minorities or women. There was a saying around Boeing during that time, if you’re black you’re almost guaranteed a job, if your a women you’re guaranteed a job, if you’re a black women, when do you start. Qualification meant nothing. They need x number of minorities to fill the quota, do you really think that fair? If you do then that’s the problem. Personally I don’t care what color you are, who you happen to be banging, unless of course I’m buying the tape, you don’t end discrimination by discrimination. As far as the systematic slaughter of black people by the state, about 1,200 black were killed by the police in 2015. FBI’s uniform crime-reporting data for 2016, 90.1 percent of black victims of homicide were killed by other blacks, while 83.5 percent of whites were killed by other whites personally if I were black I’d be far more worried about another black then I would about a cop shooting me. Of course we all know it not the fault of any minority group, they only commit crime because they are poor oppressed of course white people who are poor oppressed don’t get the same breaks because they are white. Ran into that one my self because I refuse to be enroll and I’m considered to be white, I didn’t qualify, if on the other hand if I enrolled, my college would be paid for.
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> If you want police to stop shooting minorities the first thing is stop breaking the law. If you want minority business to get ahead shop at minority business, if you want to get into college got to school and get good grades. It not that hard, millions of minorities have done, the people holding you back isn’t the white man it you. Like I’ve pointed out I refuse to enroll as a NA, despite the advantages it would give me. Because if I’m not good enough as a “white guy” I’m not good enough as a minority.

Apparently some undeserving minority got the spot in grade school English class that should have gone to\*\* postpic200\*\* by rights.

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