# What really hit the Pentagon on 9/11/01? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 1, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729 "2013-09-01T14:56:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/161 "2013-09-03T21:57:12Z")
Truth: Richard Gage had to resort to stripping the audio from footage from an actual demolition in order to get a favorable side-by-side comparison with the demise of 7. Truth: members of [the JREF Forum](http://forums.randi.org/forumindex.php) were able to fabricate individuals and get them on the rolls of ae911truth. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/162 "2013-09-03T22:10:29Z")
> [@georgewk10](#): > > The Conspiracies are largely created by the government. It’s time to re-think those lies. > visit. Rethink911 > BTW we know who you represent. > Do you believe in Judgment Day? Karma? > I feel sorry for you. Your souls are in danger. > Tell the truth. It shall set you free. > [www.ae911truth.org/](http://www.ae911truth.org/) Posting links to web sites, (particularly web sites that have already been debunked), is not participating in the debate. It is nothing more than JAQing off. This is one more Warning to stop playing these games. If you wish to participate on the SDMB, then participate: provide your own information, (preferably supported by links to credible sources), and then present a genuine argument relying on facts and logic. What you are doing now is little more than spamming the board with nonsense. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/163 "2013-09-03T22:23:51Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Posting links to web sites, (particularly web sites that have already been debunked), is not participating in the debate. It is nothing more than JAQing off. > > This is one more Warning to stop playing these games. > > If you wish to participate on the SDMB, then participate: provide your own information, (preferably supported by links to credible sources), and then present a genuine argument relying on facts and logic. > > What you are doing now is little more than spamming the board with nonsense. > > [/Moderating] This is not an effort to get you ( **george** ) to STFU but rather to use your brain and present your own arguments. Assuming you are capable of doing so. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/164 "2013-09-03T22:25:55Z")
> [@georgewk10](#): > > I wonder has anyone answered the question about Cheney sitting around at the Pentagon some 45 minutes after the WTC incident and does nothing to get air defenses up? Gee, it looks like he’s working for Halliburton and their big no-bid contracts. Yes, he at least let if happen. > And anyone who has looked at the photos of Pentagon damage and said an aluminum plane did it. > Well. You can fool some of the people some of the time. But… **georgewk10** , would you please address, or at least acknowledge, the questions in post #65? Your apparent refusal to do indicates you are not at all interested in an actual debate about the events of 9/11/2001. Hell, I’ll meet you 2/3rds of the way. How about just addressing these two? 1, What. in your view, happened to Boeing 757 N644AA? 1. Where, in your view, are the crew and passengers manifested on AA flight 77 for that day? Last try, I promise. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/165 "2013-09-03T23:53:31Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > I’d prefer [newtons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_%28unit%29) if you don’t mind. 🆒 60 short tons moving at 600 mph is 1,958,000,000 Newtons. Energy calculator places it at equivalent to 0.46797 tons or 936 pounds of TNT. Of course, if you soak the nerf in avgas first, to simulate a fueled aircraft… ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/166 "2013-09-04T02:16:10Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Yeah, foam varies a lot, but taking an average of 2.5 pounds per cubic foot from one chart I found (no idea how well that corresponds to Nerf foam), we’d be talking about 800 cubic feet per ton, or 48,000 cubic feet for a 60 ton mass. If this were a cylindrical dart 200 feet long, it would be 17.5 feet in diameter. Rather airplane like if you think about it, minus the wings. > > Whoops, gotta run. I’ll do the foot/pounds of impact when I get home unless someone else wants to do that part. Winston Zeddemore: That’s a big [del]Twinkie[/del] Nerf dart. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/167 "2013-09-04T02:35:57Z")
> [@georgewk10](#): > > BTW we know who you represent. > Do you believe in Judgment Day? Karma? > I feel sorry for you. Your souls are in danger. Mmkay. I’m getting a certain sense of things now. I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/168 "2013-09-04T02:44:01Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Mmkay. I’m getting a certain sense of things now. > > I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more. Yeah, that had a very odd feel to it. ---
**Author:** ![georgewk10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@georgewk10](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/georgewk10)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/169 "2013-09-04T02:55:01Z")
at least they didn’t trot out those WMD’s that we heard about. But they do lie to get into Wars for Oil. And killing 3000 is nothing to these Warlords. How many did they kill with sanctions on Iraq? We’re not dealing with nice people here. An event like 9/11 is called a false flag. An event staged to have an event that justifies war. We see it again , now with Syria. I visited Vietnam because of the false flag. Gulf of Tonkin. Yes, I call these warmongers “The Men Behind the Curtains” some call them Neo-Cons. God Save their Souls. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/170 "2013-09-04T03:12:14Z")
> [@georgewk10](#): > > But they do lie to get into Wars for Oil. Yes, that’s why gasoline is so cheap in the US. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729/171 "2013-09-04T03:29:41Z")
Enough already. The OP has been banned, so I’m closing this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-really-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-01/667729.md?page=8)