# What recreational drugs in your opinion should someone avoid taking at all costs? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 16, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220 "2019-03-16T07:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/81 "2019-03-18T16:54:55Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > And why is Alcohol worse than Wonder Woman? Could refer to Captain Marvel, too. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/82 "2019-03-18T17:08:33Z")
Not to mention that “bhutaan” only returns google results for places, and “metphedrone” appears to be a misspelling of “mephedrone,” otherwise known as bath salts. Whoever put that list together has to have been pretty fuckin’ high. ---
**Author:** ![Chetumal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@Chetumal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chetumal)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/83 "2019-03-18T17:13:30Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > You’re welcome! > > At least you will be when you lose the “u”. 😃 > > **Qadgop** Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but how exactly do you pronounce that? ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/84 "2019-03-18T18:04:27Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > It is an educational club to help in the _safe_ definitive identification of culinary mushrooms in the wild. Field trips are arranged to parks/places where mushrooms are likely to be found. Mycologists give lectures, techniques (spore printing) are demonstrated, etc. I like mushrooms too, half my family is from Catalonia, where mushroom-hunting (yes, we call it _to hunt_ them, just like snails) is a great tradition. My favourites: _Boletus edulis_ and _Lactarius deliciosus_. Thanks for your request, I appretiate it and gladly accept it! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/85 "2019-03-18T18:12:21Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > I like mushrooms too, half my family is from Catalonia, where mushroom-hunting (yes, we call it _to hunt_ them, just like snails) is a great tradition. My favourites: _Boletus edulis_ and _Lactarius deliciosus_. Thanks for your request, I appretiate it and gladly accept it! And thank you for sharing your art. I enjoyed it! /hijack (although can a thread on recreational drugs ever truly be hijacked?!) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/86 "2019-03-18T19:36:30Z")
> [@Chetumal](#): > > Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but how exactly do you pronounce that? Woostuhshirr. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/87 "2019-03-18T19:38:01Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Woostuhshirr. > > 🆒 I had it wrong all these years. I was pronouncing it “Throat-Warbler Mangrove.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BleizDu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@BleizDu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BleizDu)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/88 "2019-03-18T22:24:04Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Datura Stramonium (Jimson weed). Only do this if you enjoy feeling sick and deliriously hallucinating for 20 or more hours. Imagine being in a high fever and then taking acid. And feeling like you are going to throw up all the time. > > Amanita Muscaria (the red toad stools with the white spots). As above, but only lasts 4 or so hours. Man, back then, I used to try amanitas muscaria, tried it four or five times I think, various dosages, following recipes and such. Felt nothing. I still don’t get it. (Found the mushroom tasty though! Once dried.) Now I just enjoy their prettiness in the forest 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/89 "2019-03-19T00:27:56Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I won’t tell anyone else what to do or not do. I will just say that the one and only time I had cocaine, I had such an incredible appetite for it that I never touched it again. I saw it would ruin me. > > I get why people say opiates are worse, as highs go it doesn’t get much better than that, but I never felt like I wanted to eat every single Vicodin in the world. (Also never had a regular supply, which is probably for the best). When I did cocaine, my reaction was, _This_ is how I’m supposed to feel. Luckily I could not afford it on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![ThisSpaceForRent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisspaceforrent/32/345_2.png) [@ThisSpaceForRent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisSpaceForRent)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/90 "2019-03-19T00:33:10Z")
Very pure, very good rock cocaine, that you have to chop and make very powder like… is instantly addictive … upon ingestion!! Ask me how I know ?? ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/91 "2019-03-19T01:22:12Z")
I’ve been taking Hydrocodone since 91 and I never got high off it. My guess is that the abusers take high dosages to get high. That kind of dosage scare me. ---
**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/92 "2019-03-19T02:45:21Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > Questions from ignorance: > > How does that work? I have trouble reconciling that one is under the influence of a drug, but is cognizant enough to realize exactly how much under the influence they are and retain the ability to mentally reverse that state. > > A mushroom club? What does a meeting entail? Sorry, just never heard of one even though I know people who cultivate edible mushrooms. Well, basically if it’s a heavy trip (actual hallucination inducing) you’re aware it’s a hallucination. Think of it like a really good VR experience. If you get uncomfortable with a particular hallucination a blink and headshake can take you from say ; a dartboard looking like it is a patterned tunnel into the wall or your room being an open veranda on the river nile in ancient Egypt with heiroglyphs dancing on the wall To; " eh , I’m gonna walk up to the gas station, huh, those streetlights have a little extra glare" The difference is very obvious. You’re never stuck wishing you hadn’t drank this much but still dizzy and staggering around and feeling sick. Not to say your judgement is perfect or your completely aware of exactly how affected you are but you can damn well tell whether lights are a bit bright or you’re off in imagination land and by and large you can control it. Remember this is a psychoactive, and just like a great many anti- depressants , you can over power it. There’s also no amount that is actually toxic to brain or body, so you can’t OD. ---
**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/93 "2019-03-19T03:00:41Z")
Short version, you have to allow the hallucinations , otherwise you just have less filtered senses. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/94 "2019-03-19T03:17:37Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > I like mushrooms too, half my family is from Catalonia, where mushroom-hunting (yes, we call it _to hunt_ them, just like snails) is a great tradition. My favourites: _Boletus edulis_ and _Lactarius deliciosus_. Thanks for your request, I appretiate it and gladly accept it! “Hunting” is also the term used by morel, ahem, hunters. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/95 "2019-03-19T03:23:11Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I had it wrong all these years. I was pronouncing it “Throat-Warbler Mangrove.” 😉 I thought it was pronounced “fish.” 😃 Ghoti = could potentially be pronounced “fish” ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/96 "2019-03-19T03:24:40Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > I’ve been taking Hydrocodone since 91 and I never got high off it. My guess is that the abusers take high dosages to get high. > > That kind of dosage scare me. I’ve always wondered how some of them avoid deep-frying their livers, due to the acetaminophen that accompanies it. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/97 "2019-03-19T13:48:13Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > It is an educational club to help in the _safe_ definitive identification of culinary mushrooms in the wild. Field trips are arranged to parks/places where mushrooms are likely to be found. Mycologists give lectures, techniques (spore printing) are demonstrated, etc. Huh, that sounds pretty interesting! > [@Littleman](#): > > Well, basically if it’s a heavy trip (actual hallucination inducing) you’re aware it’s a hallucination. Think of it like a really good VR experience… Thanks for the detail! I still don’t get it, but my drug use is limited to alcohol and occasional ibuprofen (at correct dosage!). ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/98 "2019-03-19T14:58:31Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I’ve always wondered how some of them avoid deep-frying their livers, due to the acetaminophen that accompanies it. Exactly. Unless they figured how to extract the Hydrocodone out. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/99 "2019-03-19T15:31:05Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > Exactly. Unless they figured how to extract the Hydrocodone out. Which is a simple thing for anyone who understands basic chemistry. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220/100 "2019-03-19T16:22:58Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > There are stats about the dangers and costs of different types of drugs to the person taking them, and to larger society. For both legal and illegal drugs. Alcohol has the largest proportion of harm to others, while LSD has apparently nearly none, but it’s not clear if this chart reflects the inherent effects of using the drug, or just the effects which come about because of the actual volume of usage overall throughout society. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-recreational-drugs-in-your-opinion-should-someone-avoid-taking-at-all-costs/831220.md?page=6)