# What result on 4/26 would convince you that it's over for Bernie? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 20, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759 "2016-04-20T21:47:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/81 "2016-04-27T02:56:27Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s official: Clinton is the nominee. > > Game over for Sanders. But, but he won _Rhode Island_!!!:eek: Feel the Bern!😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/82 "2016-04-27T02:56:53Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > (snip) > As compared to the Bernites who seem to be content to see the Country go down in flames rather than vote for the woman who defeated their golden boy. Most of the Bernie fans on my Facebook feed would rather the country go down in flames if Sanders isn’t nominated. They think that if things get bad enough it’ll usher in the glorious revolution sweeping the bankers and Wall Street tycoons into the sea. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/83 "2016-04-27T03:55:11Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s official: Clinton is the nominee. > > Game over for Sanders. The idiot needs to back out, toss his support behind Clinton, and help defeat the real evil in the November election. Thinking he’s the messiah of a new world order is nothing more then the geriatric delusions of an over the hill loser, and Bernie, you’re the loser here. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/84 "2016-04-27T04:12:04Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > Most of the Bernie fans on my Facebook feed would rather the country go down in flames if Sanders isn’t nominated. They think that if things get bad enough it’ll usher in the glorious revolution sweeping the bankers and Wall Street tycoons into the sea. If it was Trump Vs. Sanders for the president, stock markets would have crashed in a second. Lol. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/85 "2016-04-27T04:17:14Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > The idiot needs to back out, toss his support behind Clinton, and help defeat the real evil in the November election. Thinking he’s the messiah of a new world order is nothing more then the geriatric delusions of an over the hill loser, and Bernie, you’re the loser here. He’s lost…he’s over…he’s all done… But I don’t want him to drop out! If he drops out, then tons of Democratic voters won’t bother to show up in June in California, and a lot of races will go the wrong way. Stay the course, Bernie! Make California relevant! (For damn once!) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/86 "2016-04-27T04:34:02Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > He’s lost…he’s over…he’s all done… > > But I don’t want him to drop out! If he drops out, then tons of Democratic voters won’t bother to show up in June in California, and a lot of races will go the wrong way. Stay the course, Bernie! Make California relevant! (For damn once!) Don’t worry, he’s promised to run the entire race. Hillary gets a gadfly for a couple of months while she sets her sights on the Donald. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/87 "2016-04-27T04:56:53Z")
Now Bernie is going to run to take delegates to the convention to put [good stuff in the platform](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-says-hell-head-to-democratic-national-convention-to-fight-for-platform/). Okay, great, whatever, but who fricking cares about the platform? [Nobody reads](http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/12642-boehner-no-one-reads-gop-platform) the party platforms and and the candidates have their own platforms anyways. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/88 "2016-04-27T19:55:21Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s official: Clinton is the nominee. True. > [@asahi](#): > > Game over for Sanders. False. The two of them are not playing the same game. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/89 "2016-04-27T19:56:50Z")
[Bernie’s new mission: Democrats can stop worrying about Sanders tearing the party apart on his way out.](http://www.salon.com/2016/04/27/bernies_new_mission_democrats_can_stop_worrying_about_sanders_tearing_the_party_apart_on_his_way_out/) > [@](#): > > Thus the questions about Sanders’ strategy moving forward are all the more pressing. If he can’t win the nomination, it’s worth asking what his goal will be? Tuesday night we got an answer to this question in the form of a statement released by the Sanders campaign. What it amounts to is a tacit admission that Sanders can’t win, and indeed that winning isn’t the strategy any longer. > > Sanders writes: > > > [@](#): > > > > “The people in every state in this country should have the right to determine who they want as president and what the agenda of the Democratic Party should be. That’s why we are in this race until the last vote is cast. That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform that calls for a $15 an hour minimum wage, an end to our disastrous trade policies, a Medicare-for-all-health care system, breaking up Wall Street financial institutions, ending fracking in our country, making public colleges and universities tuition free and passing a carbon tax so we can effectively address the planetary crisis of climate change.” > > \ > > If you read between the lines his statement Tuesday night, however, the meaning is clear: We can’t win but we have an enormous amount of leverage and we intend to use that leverage to shape the party’s platform. Team Sanders can read the writing on the wall: they know they can’t close the delegate gap at this point. But they can take their substantial number of delegates and their historical fundraising operation and their two-million-person donor list to the Democratic establishment and dare them to ignore the issues on which Sanders built his movement. > > The good news is that Democrats can stop worrying about Sanders setting fire to the party on his way out. This statement along with reports that Sanders plans to “soften” his attacks on Hillary and instead focus on the core issues ought to assuage any fears that he will resort to mudslinging. Frankly, the concerns about Sanders going negative were misguided to begin with. He’s been tough but he hasn’t crossed any lines, and he’s run as open and positive a campaign as you’ll find at this level of politics. ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/90 "2016-04-27T21:36:58Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s official: Clinton is the nominee. > > Game over for Sanders. Does she have 2,383 delegates? If not, then its not over. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/91 "2016-04-27T22:47:56Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > Does she have 2,383 delegates? If not, then its not over. Bluto: _What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!_ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/92 "2016-04-27T22:56:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Bluto: _What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!_ Clinton herself did not concede until a large bloc of super-delegates went to Obama after the final primary, mathematically clinching his nomination. Now, following that, she whole-heartedly, enthusiastically, and unequivocally supported Obama for President. Frankly, I have some concern that Sanders will follow that path. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/93 "2016-04-27T23:04:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Bernie’s new mission: Democrats can stop worrying about Sanders tearing the party apart on his way out.](http://www.salon.com/2016/04/27/bernies_new_mission_democrats_can_stop_worrying_about_sanders_tearing_the_party_apart_on_his_way_out/) It’s progress, I guess, but I’m curious to see what happens when Sanders and his supporters learn that winning a minority of votes and of elected delegates does not entitle them to much in the way of platform demands. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/94 "2016-04-27T23:08:37Z")
Even if they wrote the damn platform themselves, so what? Let 'em have it, as long as they somehow think it matters. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/95 "2016-04-27T23:16:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Even if they wrote the damn platform themselves, so what? Let 'em have it, as long as they somehow think it matters. Sure, if they’re happy with the document called The Democratic Party 2016 Platform, sure, whatever. But I think Sanders is angling for some influence on the actual platform that Clinton runs on, and he and his supporters need to understand that losing doesn’t entitle them to much influence there. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/96 "2016-04-27T23:17:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Even if they wrote the damn platform themselves, so what? Let 'em have it, as long as they somehow think it matters. Yes, platform-planks are one thing; promises, made in such a form or under such circumstances that HRC might find herself obliged to keep them as POTUS, are quite another. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/98 "2016-04-28T14:31:00Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I see what you mean. I don’t like this kind of ethnic dissection but I’ll point out that the there are a lot of Hispanic and Portuguese Catholics in RI, so it’s no so heavily a ‘White Catholic’ state as you may think. I don’t think it really matters because Ted Cruz is not very palatable here because of his politics so he’s not picking up much aside from the anti-Trump vote. I’m from RI. Portuguese are white. They may sometimes face a certain amount of discrimination, just like the Italians and the Jews, but being considered perhaps “lesser whites” doesn’t stop you from being white. Obviously with Latinos it’s a different though complicated story. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759/99 "2016-05-02T11:22:32Z")
Bernie’s fundraising has dropped drastically in April, probably as a result of all the losses. [http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/05/01/bernie-sanderss-fund-raising-plunges-amid-campaign-woes/?em\_pos=small&emc=edit\_cn\_20160502&nl=first-draft&nl\_art=6&nlid=66498970&ref=headline&te=1](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/05/01/bernie-sanderss-fund-raising-plunges-amid-campaign-woes/?em_pos=small&emc=edit_cn_20160502&nl=first-draft&nl_art=6&nlid=66498970&ref=headline&te=1) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-result-on-4-26-would-convince-you-that-its-over-for-bernie/752759.md?page=4)