# What rights are being trampled on? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 6, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481 "2007-11-06T23:15:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/21 "2007-11-07T05:28:13Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] I give you [Dennis Kucinich & his wife Elizabeth!](http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/Dennis-Kucinich-72810358_10.jpg) Amazing what one can stumble across while Googling. I’m stunned. Hell, I’d almost vote for him just to be able to watch her for the next four to eight years. 😃 [/QUOTE] Fire crotch…ick. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/22 "2007-11-07T05:32:38Z")
But you are right, Kucinich is much easier to make into a funny name than Cheney. That probably has as much substance as anything else you are likely to post. Thanks for enlightening us. Tris ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/23 "2007-11-07T05:39:15Z")
[QUOTE=PaulParkhead] I dunno - maybe because it says it does: Perhaps holding prisoners outside of the USA complies with the letter of this - I guess the courts seem to think so. [/QUOTE] Here it is: > [@](#): > > No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Read that part you quoted. It is a limitation on what the States can do. Last time I checked no state was holding anybody at gitmo. Don’t get me wrong I don’t support the admins actions I just don’t think your argument is valid. Your point is but not your reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/24 "2007-11-07T05:44:28Z")
[QUOTE=Triskadecamus] But you are right, Kucinich is much easier to make into a funny name than Cheney. That probably has as much substance as anything else you are likely to post. Thanks for enlightening us. Tris [/QUOTE] Thanks Mr. High and Mighty. Pls see mr Priam’s post on the right way to contribute to a discussion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/25 "2007-11-07T05:50:36Z")
Hey, if you don’t offer anything in the way of debate, don’t be surprised when people get snarky. DIY OPs aren’t popular here. ---
**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/26 "2007-11-07T05:51:10Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] And until the “enemy combatants” in question gets the chance to apply your own “anything goes if they aren’t our people” attitude to you and yours. “Torture is bad unless we do it” isn’t an attitude that’s going to do anything but make you look like an idiot and a thug. [/QUOTE] They ALREADY do all that under the auspice that it is OPEN-SEASON on any infidels. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/27 "2007-11-07T05:54:26Z")
[QUOTE=Inner Stickler] DIY OPs aren’t popular here. [/QUOTE] DIY=Do It Yourself? Are we supposed to get somebody else to write our OPs? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/28 "2007-11-07T05:58:21Z")
[QUOTE=Inner Stickler] Hey, if you don’t offer anything in the way of debate, don’t be surprised when people get snarky. DIY OPs aren’t popular here. [/QUOTE] I agree that I should have placed this thread in the General Question forum…and I can accept the fact that I jumped te gun a little when I made my initial post but geeze why do some people insist on being dicks here? I goofed up and I was hoping a mod could have moved this by now…sorry! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/29 "2007-11-07T05:59:32Z")
Yeah, Do It Yourself. OPs where we have to construct whatever the original poster wants to say. Someone drops a link and a comment like, “This really cheeses me off.” or what do you think?" About what? Your thread title? The size of your font? Put some work into your OP and I’ll put work into my reply. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481/30 "2007-11-07T06:28:48Z")
**ManiacMan** , if you want to ask a question ( **GQ** ), seek opinions ( **IMHO** ), or initiate a discussion ( **GD** ), you would be much better off actually taking the time to think about what you want, formulating an actual question, and providing sufficient text to give your audience some understanding of what you seek. You have failed miserably in this case and I am putting this thread out of my misery. (You would also do well to resist the urge to make snide remarks to other posters who are actually attempting to figure out what you are trying to say or are attempting to provide the coherence to your thread that you failed to do, yourself.) This thread is closed. [/Moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rights-are-being-trampled-on/425481.md?page=1)