# What’s the point of withdrawing from W.H.O.?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 21, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227 "2025-01-21T21:02:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/21 "2025-01-21T23:17:37Z")

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Also, Trump hates the very idea of other people benefiting; he believes in tribute and theft (look how he consistently doesn’t pay or underpays people and organizations). WHO expects _support_ and only “losers” support things. “Winners” take without giving back.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/22 "2025-01-21T23:20:13Z")

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Frankly I am surprised he didn’t withdraw from a whole bunch of international organizations–especially those dealing with international development assistance. Or do these require the approval of Congress?

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/23 "2025-01-21T23:20:50Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> When Trump does a thing, he does it for one or more of five simple reasons.
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> - It gets him money.
> - It gets him praise.
> - It gets him power.
> - It gets him laid.
> - “Fuck you, that’s why.”

I assume “It harms his enemies (i.e. people who have opposed him in any way or whom he just doesn’t like”) falls under #5? If not, you need to add a category.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/24 "2025-01-21T23:26:19Z")

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You are correct. “It gets him vengeance” should be on the list. At the top of the list, in fact.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/25 "2025-01-21T23:31:35Z")

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I’d say “Fucking over minorities, Muslims, and LGTBQ” needs to be on the list.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/26 "2025-01-22T00:12:46Z")

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Which is a sub-flavor of getting vengeance. Those folks annoy him by their very presence, so hurting them is wreaking vengeance for his poor abused ego.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/27 "2025-01-22T00:19:26Z")

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I have a feeling he has absolutely no idea what any of that means, except that it will garner him plenty of attention.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/28 "2025-01-22T02:11:27Z")

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> [@survinga](#):
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> Trump does’t like multi-lateral institutions.

Some multi-lateral institutions, yes. But I do not recall Trump jumping on the old U.S. out of the UN mantra. I think this is because closing of UN headquarters would negatively impact the Manhattan commercial real estate market.

If WHO was headquartered in a city where the Trump organization owned a big hotel or office building, he would not have issued that executive order. Unfortunately for the cause of world health, WHO is headquartered in Geneva Switzerland, and the Trump Organization owns nothing there.

If my logic is correct, the World Bank and IMF, both headquartered in Washington DC, had better hope Trump succeeds here:

[The Trumps Are in Talks to Reclaim Their Prized D.C. Hotel](https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/trump-dc-hotel-sale-white-house-return-0a4ba019)

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**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/29 "2025-01-23T14:36:02Z")

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First disable Fauci, NIH and CDC. Then the WHO. All people who made Trump look bad. In truth Trump made Trump look bad but…

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/30 "2025-01-23T20:39:04Z")

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Well, the executive order specifically calls out China for having 3x the population of the US and yet not paying for as much as the US does. Or maybe it was not paying 3x what the US does.

So fair-ish when limited to China, but still foolish because a lot of the WHO work benefits the US beyond the monetary contribution. It’s basically preventative measures for world public health.

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**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-point-of-withdrawing-from-w-h-o/1013227/31 "2025-01-23T20:51:39Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> If WHO was headquartered in a city where the Trump organization owned a big hotel or office building, he would not have issued that executive order. Unfortunately for the cause of world health, WHO is headquartered in Geneva Switzerland, and the Trump Organization owns nothing there.

OK, you have a point here. Someone should give Trump a sweet-heart deal to build a golf course in Geneva, and then the WHO will be the “greatest institution unlike anything that’s ever been seen before”…in his eyes.

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