# What sci fi human state would you want to live in? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 22, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381 "2014-06-22T19:31:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/61 "2014-06-28T02:54:44Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > And transporter accidents and Holodeck safety protocol failures. Star Trek is possibly the least-reliably-safe, supposedly-safe universe. Did Star Trek ever pretend to be anything but ridiculously dangerous? To quote Q: > [@Q](#): > > If you can’t take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It’s not safe out here. It’s wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it’s not for the timid. ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/62 "2014-06-28T19:14:26Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > TNG Era Federation. Easy. What I get from Star Trek in general is that the Federation, at least by the TNG era, has a universal, basic social safety net. Nobody starves or goes homeless in the Federation unwillingly. What I don’t see is widespread wealth. Iirc there was an episode of DS9 showing some generic Federation civilian neighborhood on one of the colony worlds that was pretty much an “inner city” neighborhood. Perhaps not as grimy or dangerous as the “hood” today, but far from country estates. In other words, the Federation is a socialist workers state in a way. Want a job? Sure, have one. Want a _powerful_ job? Not so fast bub. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/63 "2014-06-28T19:17:49Z")
I think it would be kinda cool to live in post-_2010_ times, with Jupiter burning bright as a second sun in the sky, questions about extra-terrestrial life answered but nothing to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/64 "2014-06-28T19:28:16Z")
Barsoom. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/65 "2014-06-28T20:58:03Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Barsoom. There’s only two humans on Barsoom that we know of, John Carter and Ulysses Paxton. Dejah Thoris may _ **look** _ human, but she isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/66 "2014-06-28T21:38:48Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > The fascist overtones - more explicit in the movie than in the book, I’ll grant you - would be a dealbreaker for me. To me the book’s Terran Federation reminds me of something more along the lines of the pre-World War I German Empire or Turkey until recently-relatively free societies where nonetheless the military has disproportionate influence. > [@robert\_columbia](#): > > What I get from Star Trek in general is that the Federation, at least by the TNG era, has a universal, basic social safety net. Nobody starves or goes homeless in the Federation unwillingly. What I don’t see is widespread wealth. Iirc there was an episode of DS9 showing some generic Federation civilian neighborhood on one of the colony worlds that was pretty much an “inner city” neighborhood. Perhaps not as grimy or dangerous as the “hood” today, but far from country estates. In other words, the Federation is a socialist workers state in a way. Want a job? Sure, have one. Want a _powerful_ job? Not so fast bub. This is what Michael Wong argues in this essay: [http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html](http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html) ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/67 "2014-06-29T03:13:17Z")
What no one has any love for the warhammer 40k universe ,lol. Declan ---
**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/68 "2014-06-29T07:45:51Z")
Over 60 posts and no votes for David Brin’s Uplift universe. See y’all later! ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/69 "2014-06-29T15:45:22Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Dejah Thoris may _ **look** _ human, but she isn’t. Judging by the descriptions of her- close enough 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/70 "2014-06-29T17:47:14Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Judging by the descriptions of her- close enough 🙂 She lays _ **eggs** _, for crying out loud. To quote another author _“John Carter was essentially doing the nasty with a giant bug.”_😃 ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/71 "2014-06-29T18:24:31Z")
The Humanx Commonwealth from Alan Dean Foster sounds like it would be a groovy place to hang out, I mean who _wouldn’t_ want to be BFF with a giant praying-mantis like alien that smells like lemon? Being human in The Damned series by the same author might also be fun, being the big scary badasses that scare the underwear off all other species? Humanity hell yeah! > [@KneadToKnow](#): > > I think it would be kinda cool to live in post-_2010_ times, with Jupiter burning bright as a second sun in the sky, questions about extra-terrestrial life answered but nothing to worry about. That’s an interesting suggestion, as much as I love the movie though it would be too much like _our_ reality for my liking. If I’m going to a sci-fi reality I at least want flying cars dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/72 "2014-06-29T20:10:57Z")
If you could remove the Reapers, the Mass Effect universe seems pretty good too. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/73 "2014-06-29T20:20:58Z")
> [@AncientHumanoid](#): > > The Dosadi Experiment That is probably the last choice I’d make. I’m not a fan of big crowds. Or eating trash. ETA: I’ve noticed nobody has said Ringworld. How bad could it be? Plenty of other species to converse and have sex with. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/74 "2014-06-29T20:33:19Z")
The near-future of _She_ seems enticing - an urban United States that’s thoroughly gentrified, if a bit sanitized. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/75 "2014-06-29T21:01:25Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > That is probably the last choice I’d make. I’m not a fan of big crowds. Or eating trash. > > ETA: I’ve noticed nobody has said Ringworld. How bad could it be? Plenty of other species to converse and have sex with. I was wondering if anyone knew the setting. I think Known Space, esp the Ring World, would be cool. Anyone want Gateway? ---
**Author:** ![franz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@franz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/franz)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/76 "2014-07-01T11:46:40Z")
The Dosadi Experiment … ---
**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/77 "2014-07-05T20:40:23Z")
[Vermillion Sands](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Sands) (more of a resort than a state, but wothehell?) ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381/78 "2014-07-06T21:12:55Z")
Plenty of elbow-room on the Ringworld, plus there are some protectors to take care of us breeders. But it wouldn’t be all fun and games, not without superconductor power or much in the way of sophisticated culture or higher civilization. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-sci-fi-human-state-would-you-want-to-live-in/691381.md?page=3)