Then you need a Q-tip.
A complete and utter lack of irony on the part of the musicians.
Which isn’t a good thing.
Are The Donnas punk
Yes.
No.
If you want
Alright, seven then. But not until my father gets home.
What is punk?
Mu.
Moo? What the fuck does that mean?
Mu.
Say moo one more time, motherfucker. I dare you. I double dare you.
Maah.
Define punk, goddamnit!
Fuck you. This is boring. I’m gonna do what I want.
All I know is that i don’t know nothin!
Were The Ramones punk?
I know everyone calls them punk and they worked hard to establish the punk “look”, but as Joel points out, sometimes it is hard to see the connection. I have always thought of the Ramones as being a side branch–part of the “campy punk” group. This would also include The Dickies and The Dead Milkmen.
Was Husker Du punk?
In this thread Zen Arcade was listed as a best punk album. Was Husker Du really punk, or were they really “proto-grunge” along the lines of The Replacements, fIREHOSE, and The Pixies?
Were the Violent Femmes punk?
I am not sure what album Kyomara has been listening to that qualifies as punk, but the Femmes are missing so many hallmarks of the genre that it would be quite a stretch so put them in that category. I would say that they are in that nebulous “alternative” or “college-rock” category with groups like They Might Be Giants and Camper Van Beethoven.
Well, that clears everything right up!
By and large, punk is what punks listen to. Who’s a punk? Well, it’s someone who listens to punk.
Actually, I think Derleth gave the best answer.
I don’t wanna argue.
But the album I listened to was the one where they performed short, low-fi pop songs with a passionate and (this is key) fuck-you attitude. The one they made after they were discovered singing to people waiting to buy tickets for a Pretenders show. You know, like…ALL their albums.
But I don’t wanna argue
Good definition. I’d add: really p.o.'d attitude, and from a group formed in the 70’s. Anythng after that is not punk. It may sound punkish, but it ain’t punk.
An alternative definition:
Up-tempo guitar-driven music in which emotional expression is valued above technical merit.
When punk or hardcore bands start getting good, suddenly they’re too polished for the scene, or are held up as a “unique” sort of band.
Witness Bad Brains, Dag Nasty, and Fugazi: all of them fall into what I would call harDCore, none of them are accepted as such by all harDCore fans. Dag Nasty in particular met with a lot of resistance from the DC scene, which they described in their song “Justification.”
The 70’s? Jeez, the elitists just get more and more demanding every day. Most of them can at least deal with the early 80’s.
Ah well, I’ll just go listen to Op Ivy… the band that sounds like punk, acts like punk, but can’t possibly be punk because it’s just not like that music we had back in the old days when we had to walk 50 miles uphill IN THE SNOW just to see our favorite band play! Kids these days! :rolleyes:
I think that’s the best definition I’ve heard so far. Of course, there are exceptions.
Let’s not be snide, whippersnapper.
The original, intangible spirit that was as much the definition of punk as the sound, just didn’t make it much past the end of the 70’s. Sorry for thinking so; I still think I’m right.
Not that there aren’t some new bands that come close to the sound of the spirit, it just isn’t the same. It’s like calling Led Zep a blues band; yeah, there are similarities, but it’s not the same.
Now go get a haircut, hippie.
The “gobbling” [spitting at the musicians]. No other music fans do that, thank God.
I think it would be great of fans of “Boy Bands” would take it up.