# What should the Arizona Cardinals do with Matt Leinart?

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**Created:** [August 24, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116 "2008-08-24T18:16:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/1 "2008-08-24T18:16:49Z")

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It looks like the Arizona Cardinals have picked Kurt Warner to be the starting quarterback over Matt Leinart.

[Report](http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2008/08/24/20080824cardswarner-ON-CR.html)

So, what to do with Matt Leinart? Trade him? Make him second string for this year and hope his 4th year is a charm?

I’m sure Warner is thrilled to have another chance to get back to the Super Bowl.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/2 "2008-08-24T18:55:08Z")

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Given the typical attrition rate of NFL QBs, to say nothing of those playing behind the Cardinals’ line, and the fragility of Mr. Warner, I’d advise him to be a good soldier and be prepared to come in at a moment’s notice.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/3 "2008-08-24T18:56:30Z")

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Warner does tend to get injured often. Also, I haven’t forgotten his fumble-itis from 2006, either.  
Still, QB by committee doesn’t seem like a solution to get the Cards to the Super Bowl.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/4 "2008-08-24T19:10:32Z")

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Wait until week 4, by which time Kurt will either be injured or will have turned it over 15 times, and give him back his job.

If he doesn’t perform _this_ year you cut him.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/5 "2008-08-24T19:18:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Wait until week 4, by which time Kurt will either be injured or will have turned it over 15 times, and give him back his job.

If he doesn’t perform _this_ year you cut him.  
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LOL, we play the Jets in week 4. That’s one of the games I’m most looking forward to as the Cards defense will eat Favre alive.

Weeks 1 and 2 are easy for the Cards with wins against San Francisco and Miami. Week 3 is a bitch with a trip to the East against the Redskins.

You can imagine the conversation on this topic over on the Cardinals fan boards. Finally something to end the “Trade Boldin” talk.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/6 "2008-08-24T19:22:22Z")

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[QUOTE=dalej42]  
Finally something to end the “Trade Boldin” talk.  
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Speaking of which, we’ll take Boldin and Leinart off your hands for a first-rounder. It’d be a 1st and a 4th for just Boldin, but I figure this way you take less of a cap hit overall 🙂

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/7 "2008-08-27T14:09:21Z")

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Not so fast, your hell may not be over yet.

[report](http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/63452)

as a Rams fan, 😃

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/8 "2008-08-27T18:01:49Z")

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[QUOTE=dalej42]  
It looks like the **Arizona Cardinals** have picked Kurt Warner to be the starting quarterback over Matt Leinart.

[Report](http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2008/08/24/20080824cardswarner-ON-CR.html)

So, what to do with Matt Leinart? Trade him? Make him second string for this year and hope his 4th year is a charm?

I’m sure Warner is thrilled to **have another chance to get back to the Super Bowl.**  
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Error, does not compute, fatal conflict in terms, process terminated.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/9 "2008-08-27T18:08:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Weirddave]  
Error, does not compute, fatal conflict in terms, process terminated.  
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Here, somebody shove this link in Weirddave’s processor before he blows up:

[Leinart still starter… for now.](http://www.abc15.com/content/sports/stories/story.aspx?content_id=ed886af8-3007-4d76-84e1-750c330dc160)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/10 "2008-08-27T18:47:24Z")

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Isn’t preaseason fun?

The Cards have their last preseason game on Friday. If Leinart wants to earn the job, he got one last shot. I’m sure he won’t see many starters from the Broncos.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/11 "2008-08-27T18:53:58Z")

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I say the Cards should cut both Leinhart and Warner and start St. Pierre. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/12 "2008-08-27T18:57:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Death of Rats]  
I say the Cards should cut both Leinhart and Warner and start St. Pierre. 🙂  
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I say the State of Arizona should cut the Cardinals and ask the NFL for an expansion team.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/13 "2008-08-27T18:58:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Here, somebody shove this link in Weirddave’s processor before he blows up:

[Leinart still starter… for now.](http://www.abc15.com/content/sports/stories/story.aspx?content_id=ed886af8-3007-4d76-84e1-750c330dc160)  
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Well, the specific conflict in terms I was referring to was “Arizona Cardinals” and “Chance to get to the Super Bowl”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/14 "2008-08-27T19:04:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Weirddave]  
Well, the specific conflict in terms I was referring to was “Arizona Cardinals” and “Chance to get to the Super Bowl”  
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There is always the possibility that every other team except the Raiders will forfeit all their games due to Ebola or something.

In a Cards-Raiders Superbowl I think you’d have to say that the Cards are a prohibitive favorite.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/15 "2008-08-27T20:51:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
There is always the possibility that every other team except the Raiders will forfeit all their games due to Ebola or something.

In a Cards-Raiders Superbowl I think you’d have to say that the Cards are a prohibitive favorite.  
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Or if they play the Bears they can have the first Super Bowl with no viable starting QB’s! 😃

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/16 "2008-08-27T22:44:15Z")

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I’d say it is time for the First Annual Arizona Cardinals March to the Super Bowl thread.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/17 "2008-08-28T01:02:29Z")

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[QUOTE=dalej42]  
I’d say it is time for the First Annual Arizona Cardinals March to the Super Bowl thread.  
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It’d be appropriate considering how many former Steelers are on your roster. I like Russ Grimm, I was hoping we could keep him as our o-line coach. As a non-Cardinals fan I have to ask why do people want them to trade Boldin? From what I’ve seen he’s gritty, tough, sure-handed - I’d take him aboard any day. I also like Antrel Rolle, though he doesn’t seem to be a good fit at corner - any time you want to ship him to Pittsburgh I think he’d look great as a safety in Black & Gold 😉

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/18 "2008-08-28T11:10:35Z")

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We don’t **want** to trade Boldin. Unfortunately, his contract whining is proving to be a huge distraction right now. If the Eagles are willing to part with Lito Sheppard, that might work in a deal to help both teams.

Rolle has his chance to redeem himself from the bust label at safety. I certainly hope he does.

Warner will start against Denver. Still no official word yet about who will start the season. There are lots of Warner supporters on the Cards fan boards, but they seem to forget the 2006 fumble itis.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/19 "2008-08-28T13:23:59Z")

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[QUOTE=dalej42]  
We don’t **want** to trade Boldin. Unfortunately, his contract whining is proving to be a huge distraction right now. If the Eagles are willing to part with Lito Sheppard, that might work in a deal to help both teams.  
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Some guys whine, and some guys truly deserve to get paid. Boldin is most certainly in the latter.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-arizona-cardinals-do-with-matt-leinart/461116/20 "2008-08-28T21:09:41Z")

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Boldin will get his money. No one talks about the Cards as a team with yearly salary cap problems. Rosenscum figured if he can’t make his money with Chad Johnson, maybe he can make it with Boldin.

Boldin had his deal renegotiated after his rookie year. After the Cards make the playoffs this year, we will give him some money.

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