# What Should the Next Incarnation of Trek Be? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 15, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890 "2005-05-15T01:35:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/61 "2005-05-16T02:18:14Z")
Worf in a tux with a martini…“Moug. Worf of the House of Moug.” ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/62 "2005-05-16T06:58:20Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > _After Trek - An Anthology_ > Like, what happened when Oxmyx finds McCoy’s communicator? > ! Actually, there was an Old game for the NES called Star Trek 25th Anniversary. It begins with the Enterprise returning to the Gangster Planet, but instead running into an unexpected tear in space-time, which throws them into to unexplored space(with a vaugly voyagerish premise). Eventually they manage to get back, and find the planet a wasteland. They find out that after McCoy left his communicator there, the Gangsters reversed engineered it and somehow managed to blow themselves up, causing the space-time rip. the Last section invovles Kirk and Co going back in time to retrieve the communicator. Fun game. ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Mann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@Rich\_Mann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rich_Mann)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/63 "2005-05-16T08:07:25Z")
_Star Trek: Privateers_ Not just space pirates, but a whole rebel culture. Their philosophy is similar to the Feds as far as the whole multi-species thing goes, but they like their freedoms a little too much to easily assimilate into the Federation Collective. They have no moral qualms about smuggling and providing protection or transport to fugitives or whoever (usually for a price). They don’t officially take sides in conflicts, but tend to only sell arms to who they consider to be the ‘good guys’. The reason they haven’t been mentioned in any of the other series so far is that they like to keep a low profile. Only rarely do they interact with the Feds (any generation you choose) or other ‘authorities’ and when they do they pretend to be ordinary traders. They avoid outward indications of a unifying ethos so that their ships and colonies will be taken as ad hoc collaborations and not as part of a larger more organized group. Indeed, there is enough internal conflict that it’s sometimes hard for the viewers (as in the know as they are) to see the forest for the trees, as it were. I’m not seeing a continuous cast of characters. I’d much prefer some innovative writing. Like serious changes in the status quo due to murder, betrayal, ideological schism,etc… Or, perhaps, no overriding story arc–each episode could be a vignette that does not depend on previous episodes or set up later ones. If you don’t kill off at least a couple of well-known characters a season your being too formulaic. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/64 "2005-05-16T11:31:50Z")
Yeah, I miss Firefly too… ---
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/65 "2005-05-16T13:15:00Z")
> [@MGibson](#): > > What might be cool would be to follow the adventures of recent Star Fleet graduates. The main cast members would lower level officers and we’d have an opportunity to see how one starts their career in Star Fleet. Also, let’s cut down the number of main characters from the traditional 7 to 4 or 5 instead. This should allow the writers to focus on developing stronger characters then they have in the past. I like expanding on the “Lower Decks” episode idea. To me, that one was one of the most interesting of the later-season TNG episodes. Instead of the Academy “Dawson’s Creek”-in-the-future idea, we’ll have “Grey’s Anatomy” in space, only without someone boinking their superior officer. ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/66 "2005-05-16T13:36:37Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Well, Sulu as an admiral, perhaps commanding a task force of Excelsior-class ships trying to pacify what’s left of the Klingon Empire. The captains of the various ships can be the younger stars of the show, with enough interpersonal conflict between them and how they run their various commands. Still won’t work. I hear Takei is firmly committed to his new project, _Young Wet Bitches_. I think they just need to let it go for now. Of course, if they persist, I’ll probably want something about the military culture of the Federation- space marines, fighter jocks (if they exist), etc. The ‘Dominion War’ concept of DS9 was one of my favorites in any of the seasons. It beat the hell out of Gilligan’s Galaxy (Voyager). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/67 "2005-05-16T16:11:03Z")
**Midshipman Kirk** ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/68 "2005-05-16T16:11:31Z")
I’m still waiting for another ST episode that features the Tholians. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/69 "2005-05-16T16:57:14Z")
There should be 2 new shows, one set exclusively on the holodeck, each episode has it breaking down in a new and exciting way… and the other should be a Starship that can only travel through time. That way they’d maybe get it out of their systems and we can hope our grandchildren get good “Star Trek”. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/70 "2005-05-16T17:14:11Z")
> [@cckerberos](#): > > They had an opportunity to do something like this with Voyager, since there were so many Maquis on the crew. In any case, the Maquis were almost completely wiped out by the Dominion, so I don’t think a show based on them now would be feasible. Yeah, like those Jedi Knights. Once they were mostly wiped out, their story was over. Whatever they do, I hope they place it _after_ all the other stuff they’ve done, so that they avoid all the insufferable plot placement of things people expect to see (first Tellarite, first Tholian, Mirror universe, whatever), so they can write new stuff. Wishful thinking, I know, but that’s what we’re talking about here. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/71 "2005-05-16T19:28:32Z")
> [@Stonebow](#): > > Still won’t work. I hear Takei is firmly committed to his new project, _Young Wet Bitches_. What’s the appeal of washing wet female dogs? 😕😉 ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/72 "2005-05-16T19:49:49Z")
How does _Orion Slave Girls in Space_ sound? ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/73 "2005-05-16T20:02:41Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > What’s the appeal of washing wet female dogs? 😕😉 I just hope that, for your sake, you did not miss out on one of the single best investigative reports to ever grace _The Daily Show_. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/74 "2005-05-16T20:11:18Z")
> [@Stonebow](#): > > I hear Takei is firmly committed to his new project, _Young Wet Bitches_. Oh, my. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/75 "2005-05-17T08:51:48Z")
_Star Trek: Retcon_ In this anthology series, a rotating staff of guest writers and stars remake the suckiest episodes of the Star Trek series’ into passably good stories. In the pilot episode, J. Michael Straczynski directs the remake of _Rascals_. ---
**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/76 "2005-05-17T09:09:11Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > _Star Trek: Retcon_ > > In this anthology series, a rotating staff of guest writers and stars remake the suckiest episodes of the Star Trek series’ into passably good stories. > > In the pilot episode, J. Michael Straczynski directs the remake of _Rascals_. If someone can make “Profit and Lace” into even a passably good story, he or she would truly be a God among Men. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gerome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Gerome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gerome)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/77 "2005-05-17T11:28:55Z")
Star Trek: Special Victims Unit. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/78 "2005-05-17T14:34:00Z")
> [@Gerome](#): > > Star Trek: Special Victims Unit. Star Trek: Turbolift Inspectors Unit. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/79 "2005-05-17T15:49:25Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Excellent idea! > > _Star Trek: Counterclock_ > > We set it in the Mirror Universe—but leaving out most of what DS9 did to it. The Earth Empire is still alive and kicking. > > How about, for the fun of it, making some more changes to the other races, too. Have the Klingons, instead of being bushido-Vikings, are more hedonistic and life-enjoying. (Not to say they’re wimpy, or anything. Think “Cyrano de Bergerac”) Tribbles could be employed as a devastating bioweapon. > > It can focus on one crew, or be a cross-time anthology, or a bit of both. And no need to go to absurd plot twists when needing to fire an actor—just have someone murder their character to get a promotion. > > There’d be a good time using plots, themes, and ‘morals’ to stories that would give Roddenberry and Janeway fits. Backwater planet kidnaps a crewmember for accidentally violating one of their insane laws? “Welcome to ‘prejudicial terraforming-ville.’ Population: you!” \>:D > > Anyone else want to add to? The mirror universe would be cool. Even **Enterprise** had fun with it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890/80 "2005-05-17T16:49:00Z")
Something having to do with the Beta quadrant. We’ve had Alpha (all shows), Gamma (DS9) and Delta (Voyager). From what I read, Earth is supposed to be on the border between Alpha and Beta, but they always refer to the Federation/Klingons/Romulans as being in Alpha. Is Earth at the border of the Federation? A deep space mission in the Beta quadrant. Sort of like Voyager, but they can contact the Federation, but it takes a while. First episode. Something goes wrong in the holodeck threatening the entire crew. When it is resolved, the Captain decides to shut it down for good so it won’t happen again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-should-the-next-incarnation-of-trek-be/303890.md?page=5)