# What stung me?  Was it a bee?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 13, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-stung-me-was-it-a-bee/650212 "2013-02-13T20:30:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-stung-me-was-it-a-bee/650212/21 "2013-02-14T15:16:29Z")

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When I was a kid, I fell on top of a ground nest of yellow-jackets. I received multiple stings to my face, ears, & head. I looked like I had gone three rounds with Muhammed Ali.

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**Author:** ![fstbk1968](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@fstbk1968](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fstbk1968)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-stung-me-was-it-a-bee/650212/22 "2013-02-14T16:46:58Z")

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I have found that the pain associated with bee stings can vary greatly. When I was a boy, I was often stung and the pain was often minor. As I got older I have noticed that the pain (and reaction) has gone up dramatically. Maybe I am becoming more sensitive to bee venom? Now days, if I get stung the pain is rather intense (feels very much like a burn that won’t subside for several hours) along significant swelling. My wife will get stung and to her it’s nothing more that quick poke, similar to a needle stick.

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**Author:** ![TerpBE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc8723/32.png) [@TerpBE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TerpBE)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-stung-me-was-it-a-bee/650212/23 "2013-02-14T17:12:54Z")

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> [@FrankJBN](#):
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> Two years ago, I had a heart attack(went “a-fib” as they say)

I’m not a doctor, but there’s a significant difference between a heart attack and “a-fib” (atrial fibrillation). It’s like saying “I had a stroke (or ‘migraine’, as some call it)”.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-stung-me-was-it-a-bee/650212/24 "2013-02-14T18:29:30Z")

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> [@california\_jobcase](#):
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> Southeast? The most painful thing here is a cow killer, otherwise known as a velvet ant. They’re really a solitary wingless wasp, but they don’t leave their stingers. Paper wasps aren’t close in the pain department.

I thought about velvet ants too. They’re rated as high as the T Hawk on the pain scale. But no wings in my mind equals not bee-like.

I was surprised to see the experts rate paper wasps as high as they do, since I’d often fooled with their nests as a child, but never got stung.

But the paper wasps the experts cite are specifically in the genus[Polistes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polistes). So other wasps that make paper nests aren’t the same. (Maybe because the yj/bf types swarm in much larger numbers, they’re venom doesn’t need as big of a punch.) I’ve been stung by baldfaced hornets and yellow jackets, and it doesn’t seem like the intense pain people talk about with cowkillers or polistes wasps.

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**Author:** ![FrankJBN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@FrankJBN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrankJBN)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-stung-me-was-it-a-bee/650212/25 "2013-02-14T22:01:56Z")

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"I’m not a doctor, but there’s a significant difference between a heart attack and “a-fib” (atrial fibrillation). It’s like saying “I had a stroke (or ‘migraine’, a”

What is your definition of a heart attack?

The way I look at it in a heart attack the heart malfunctions and doesn’t beat right. When the heart goess a-fib it malfunctions and doesn’t beat right. Plainly you are not a doctor, but you think a similar comparison is stroke and headache?

Of course that a genuine doctor in the emergency room said to me both times, “you are having a heart attack” doesn’t enter into it, I guess. He just didn’t understand medical terminology as well as you.

Oddly stroke was one of the concerns when the heart was beating in a wildly arrythmic pattern.

The scariest thing to me was seeing blood pressure at appallingly low numbers.

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**Author:** ![TerpBE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc8723/32.png) [@TerpBE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TerpBE)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-stung-me-was-it-a-bee/650212/26 "2013-02-15T17:31:52Z")

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> [@FrankJBN](#):
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> The way I look at it in a heart attack the heart malfunctions and doesn’t beat right. When the heart goess a-fib it malfunctions and doesn’t beat right. Plainly you are not a doctor, but you think a similar comparison is stroke and headache?
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> Of course that a genuine doctor in the emergency room said to me both times, “you are having a heart attack” doesn’t enter into it, I guess. He just didn’t understand medical terminology as well as you.

Here’s a cardiologist who specifically addresses the question, and clearly says they are not the same thing: [http://www.bannerhealth.com/Services/Health+And+Wellness/Ask+the+Expert/Heart+Care/\_Is+Afib+a+form+of+heart+attack.htm](http://www.bannerhealth.com/Services/Health+And+Wellness/Ask+the+Expert/Heart+Care/_Is+Afib+a+form+of+heart+attack.htm)

BTW, I was once admitted to the hospital with A-fib, and in my case no one ever mentioned or compared it to a heart attack.

I’ve also had migraines that have had stroke-like symptoms (confusion, partial loss of vision, tingling in hands and mouth on one side), so it’s not that ridiculous to compare them. Also, it’s a misconception that “migraines” are always headaches. They are neurological events that sometime occur with little or no headache.

In your case, however, is it possible that you had A-fib and a heart attack at the same time? Even though they’re different things, it wouldn’t surprise me if one could cause the other.

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