# What subjective opinion are you most unshakably certain of?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198 "2013-11-18T19:37:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/1 "2013-11-18T19:37:10Z")

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Of questions of taste and preference where there is no factual answer, what position do you hold that you just can not imagine ever possibly changing your mind about? (It should probably be a position that at least some number of people in the world disagree with… not very interesting if you’re convinced that Casablanca is a better movie than Police Academy 6).

For me, it’s that the best order to read the Narnia books is the original publishing order, with **The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe** coming first. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever met, or heard of, anyone disagreeing with that… except, of course, for the people who are actually publishing the books. (And, arguably, and bafflingly, CS Lewis himself, although I have to imagine there was miscommunication there or something.)

I mean, **The Magician’s Nephew** is a fun book because it’s introducing all those things that we’re already familiar with. Reading it first is like watching **Friends** in chronological order, starting with that flashback episode to before the chronology of the series actually started.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/2 "2013-11-18T19:55:33Z")

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The only proper way to watch _Dark City_ is to start at the point where Rufus Sewell wakes up in the bathtub.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/3 "2013-11-18T20:03:27Z")

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there are three Star Wars movies

and three Indiana Jones movies

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/4 "2013-11-18T21:08:36Z")

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Predator 2 is a better movie than Predator.

The Two Towers is the best of the LotR movies

Caddyshack is not that funny.

Episode Three is the third best Star Wars movie. That sounds like faint praise but one and two are obvious (although which is one and which is two varies).

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/5 "2013-11-18T21:23:38Z")

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Coke tastes better than Pepsi!

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/6 "2013-11-18T22:26:29Z")

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Country music sucks. All of it.

Super heavily hopped beers are for people who injured their taste buds in an extreme sports mishap.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/7 "2013-11-18T22:35:05Z")

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Beer tastes nasty.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/8 "2013-11-18T22:41:40Z")

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> [@Furious\_Marmot](#):
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> Super heavily hopped beers are for people who injured their taste buds in an extreme sports mishap.

I think the OP is asking for opinions, not facts. 😃 …_Rauschbier uber alles!_

Also, we will figure out that humans had little to do with climate shift, but it will take decades to confirm it.  
It’s a hell of a lot more important that we focus on living with the changes, which are going to cause political disruption on an unbelievable scale, than it is to waste time trying to assign blame.

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/9 "2013-11-18T22:52:32Z")

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_Office Space_ is a steaming pile of shit. For one thing, it’s not a comedy, it’s a heist movie with an occasional ham-fisted “joke”. For another, its creator had about as much knowledge of what makes corporate life farcical as the _Idiocracy_ guy did about what makes morons moronic (…what’s that you say? Aaah, it all makes sense now), meaning what few jokes were there — on a subject that should provide ample fodder for [decades of parody](http://www.dilbert.com) let alone 90 minutes worth of gags — fall flat on their face due to imbecilic setups.

I grant that the printer scene makes a valiant attempt to redeem the film, but around the tenth “LOL the Indian guy is Indian and also Michael Bolton is not a very popular artist” joke, even that falls woefully short.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/10 "2013-11-18T22:56:35Z")

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dang bro you don’t understand Mike Judge at all. Since he is a known satiric genius I must assume it is you who are wrong

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/11 "2013-11-18T23:06:19Z")

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Aretha is indeed The Queen.

No one comes close to Jeff Beck on electric guitar.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/12 "2013-11-18T23:06:29Z")

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That there is good poetry and Vogon poetry and it’s possible to tell which is which.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/13 "2013-11-19T00:00:56Z")

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> [@Labdad](#):
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> Coke tastes better than Pepsi!

Coke tastes _different_ than Pepsi.

Dr. Pepper tastes better than either!

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/14 "2013-11-19T00:06:34Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Aretha is indeed The Queen.
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> No one comes close to Jeff Beck on electric guitar.

Combining your two sentences provides my rebuttal to your second assertion: Brian May is a better guitarist than Beck. So is Eddie Van Halen, Mark Knopfler, Alex Lifeson and a few others.

Which brings me to an unshakable opinion: Rush features the most talented musicians of any three-member rock band. And more talented than most larger groups.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/15 "2013-11-19T00:10:30Z")

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The overwhelming majority of popular music is utter shit–the worst music humanity has created in history–and will not be valued at all (with only a very few exceptions) in 100 years.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/16 "2013-11-19T00:13:16Z")

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The ending to _The Prisoner_ is entirely straightforward and makes perfect sense.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/17 "2013-11-19T00:16:06Z")

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Chocolate is indeed, the Food of the Gods. If we go to the stars and all other forms of plants and animals from Earth are lost and forgotten and only Chocolate still exists, we will have done Earth proud.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/18 "2013-11-19T00:21:52Z")

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Commercials tend to have the exact opposite of the intended result: no way in hell would I buy most of those products, given what I see in the ads.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/19 "2013-11-19T00:26:38Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> For me, it’s that the best order to read the Narnia books is the original publishing order, with **The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe** coming first. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever met, or heard of, anyone disagreeing with that… except, of course, for the people who are actually publishing the books. (And, arguably, and bafflingly, CS Lewis himself, although I have to imagine there was miscommunication there or something.)

If you actually read the exchange they use to justify using the wrong order, it’s extremely obvious that Lewis was just being friendly to a young fan and not at all saying it’s the order his books _should_ be read.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/20 "2013-11-19T00:37:42Z")

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Beer is disgusting.

Baseball and basketball are incredibly boring. Football isn’t much better.

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