# What subjective opinion are you most unshakably certain of?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198 "2013-11-18T19:37:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/41 "2013-11-19T04:32:05Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Composing that work in the first place was surely greater than performing it.

Until it’s performed, it’s just a bunch of black dots on the page. 😉

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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/42 "2013-11-19T04:35:58Z")

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> [@deltasigma](#):
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> I was trying to come up with something I felt that strongly about and the only things that come close are my admiration for Walter/Wendy Carlos and the two albums I think I literally wore out as a kid - [Switched On Bach](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-On_Bach) and The [Well-Tempered Synthesizer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Well-Tempered_Synthesizer). I probably can’t name a single selection from either but both are etched into my memory.

Well, if you want to fake it with the WTS, then use the following algorithm: name a key followed by the word “prelude” and/or “fugue”. (But make sure you say “prelude” first if you’re going to say both.)

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/43 "2013-11-19T04:45:04Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Joe Morello was the best jazz drummer who ever lived or ever will live.
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> Duke Ellington was the greatest jazz composer who ever lived.
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> Thelonious Monk was a towering, staggeringly brilliant genius of the piano.
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> The soprano saxophone is not a musical instrument; it’s a Chinese torture instrument that was too awful for Torquemada or the Marquis de Sade to consider using. Hitler outlawed it from the labor camps. Dante dared not delve to a level of Hell that contained it. Modern “artists” who insist on forcing air through this honking, squealing instrument to produce a cacophony of noise that turns people into twitching, gibbering lumps of helpless flesh, moaning in a helpless heap on the floor, should be hanged.

I’m cool with most of this ;). I’m a Max Roach guy, but will listen to Morello. Ellington is the man, and Monk is the magician. And Wayne Shorter can swing a soprano, but not many others.

Oh, and Grant Green is better than Wes Montgomery. Yeah, I said it. (I love Wes, but think GG has a singular voice as a soloist)…

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/44 "2013-11-19T04:45:50Z")

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Forest Gump was a shit movie, Dance with Wolves was boring but Waterworld is the worst movie ever.

Tom Cruise hasn’t made a good movie since Days of Thunder (and that was crap)

Mad Max (Road Warrior to you yanks) is the best movie ever.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/45 "2013-11-19T04:51:00Z")

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> [@D18](#):
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> Well, if you want to fake it with the WTS, then use the following algorithm: name a key followed by the word “prelude” and/or “fugue”. (But make sure you say “prelude” first if you’re going to say both.)

🙂

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/46 "2013-11-19T04:54:29Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> The end of _The Sopranos_ was perfect and Tony got whacked.

OHHHHH!!! Of COURSE!!!

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/47 "2013-11-19T04:56:29Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Beer tastes nasty.

You can’t be a True Irishman.😉

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/48 "2013-11-19T05:01:41Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You can’t be a True Irishman.😉

But Guinness is not beer it is in it’s own universe.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/49 "2013-11-19T06:07:07Z")

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Joe Montana is the best quarterback who over played the game.

Steak should only be cooked rare.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/50 "2013-11-19T06:48:52Z")

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> [@sisu](#):
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> Mad Max (Road Warrior to you yanks) is the best movie ever.

To this Yank, [Mad Max](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079501/) and [The Road Warrior](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082694/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4) have always been two distinctly different movies.

But [Casablanca](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/?ref_=nv_sr_1) is the best movie ever.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/51 "2013-11-19T08:04:40Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> The overwhelming majority of popular music is utter shit–the worst music humanity has created in history–and will not be valued at all (with only a very few exceptions) in 100 years.

Until you compare it to what will pass for music in 2113. Yeah, these are the good old days.

The reason they play bagpipes at funerals is to keep the departed six feet under, where he can’t hear it.

Marshall McLuhan was right; the medium is the message. More than he ever could have dreamed.

Beer tastes like vomit.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/52 "2013-11-19T12:42:28Z")

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_Star Trek: Insurrection_ is by far the worst Star Trek film.

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/53 "2013-11-19T12:57:33Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> I found a bunch of stuff where Lifeson cites Beck as a key influence, with Hendrix and Page…

I’m not dissing Beck; he’s a great guitarist. And, sure, it’s no surprise he would be cited as an influence, along with Hendrix and Page. I’m certain that Van Halen, Lifeson and May are influences, too, a little farther down the road.

Hey, this thread is about unshakable opinions. I wasn’t trying to change your mind. I just hold a different opinion.

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**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/54 "2013-11-19T12:59:26Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> _Louie Louie_ is the greatest rock song that will ever be written. _Ace Of Spades_ is a very close second.

So then Motorhead’s version of Louie Louie is the greatest rock song ever? And Overkill, Killed by Death, Stay Clean are much, much better songs then Ace of Spades. 😃

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/55 "2013-11-19T13:02:52Z")

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“Imagine” is the most vapid piece of pap that has ever been put to music and published.

Tropicana is the only brand of orange juice that is ever worth drinking.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/56 "2013-11-19T13:07:14Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> _Star Trek: Insurrection_ is by far the worst Star Trek film.

It’s weird when The Dope reads minds, but I swear just last night I was wondering if I should ever get around to watching it, as it is the last bit of TNG that I have yet to see. I was going to post about it, but here you have gone and answered my question for me 🙂

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/57 "2013-11-19T13:27:45Z")

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> [@Orwell](#):
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> I’m not dissing Beck; he’s a great guitarist. And, sure, it’s no surprise he would be cited as an influence, along with Hendrix and Page. I’m certain that Van Halen, Lifeson and May are influences, too, a little farther down the road.
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> Hey, this thread is about unshakable opinions. I wasn’t trying to change your mind. I just hold a different opinion.

😉

…but…but…but…your opinion is _wrong_!!!

(yeah, I have no idea why I needed to get all facty and influencey about that - I think my commitment to the Unshakeable Law of Jeff Beck pushes me to silliness at times ;))

What’s funny is that I don’t like a lot of Beck’s music - as far as I can tell, he likes to experiment and try different blends of rock, blues, jazz, rockabilly, etc. and many hit, but almost as many miss. But to paraphrase what they say about actors with great voices, Jeff Beck could play the phone book and win me over with his technique)

Sorry for the hijack - please carry on…

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/58 "2013-11-19T13:31:29Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> 😉
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> What’s funny is that I don’t like a lot of Beck’s music - as far as I can tell, he likes to experiment and try different blends of rock, blues, jazz, rockabilly, etc. and many hit, but almost as many miss. But to paraphrase what they say about actors with great voices, Jeff Beck could play the phone book and win me over with his technique)

You know, that’s my problem with Beck. I just don’t like a lot of his music. The songs are just not very good, in many cases. He’s a MUCH better guitarist than a songwriter or singer.

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/59 "2013-11-19T14:11:02Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> I think the OP is asking for opinions, not facts. 😃 …_Rauschbier uber alles!_

That reminds me: smoked beers are for people who have been rendered crimnally insane by an extreme sports mishap.

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**Author:** ![austerity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@austerity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/austerity)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/60 "2013-11-19T14:59:15Z")

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Short stories are the greatest form of literature.  
Clark Aston Smith is the greatest author and far superior to Lovecraft.  
Horror is the greatest genre in all the arts and entertainment.  
Manic (2013) is the greatest movie ever made.  
Black metal is the greatest genre of music.  
Single player video games are far superior to multiplayer.  
Episodic television shows are far superior to serial shows.

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