# What subjective opinion are you most unshakably certain of?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198 "2013-11-18T19:37:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/81 "2013-11-19T19:15:19Z")

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American football is a much slower and less interesting game than baseball. If your sport needs cheerleaders, it’s because the action on the field is dull and predictable.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/82 "2013-11-19T19:37:23Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> _Star Trek: Insurrection_ is by far the worst Star Trek film.

I’m not sure you will get much argument on that but it does remind me of one I should have mentioned: Star Trek First Contact is vastly over rated and Star Trek Nemesis is vastly underrated (and is better than First Contact).

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**Author:** ![The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Universe_Lashes_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/83 "2013-11-19T20:34:57Z")

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> [@Orwell](#):
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> Which brings me to an unshakable opinion: Rush features the most talented musicians of any three-member rock band. And more talented than most larger groups.

And yet… they are the suckiest band that ever sucked.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/84 "2013-11-19T20:56:33Z")

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enalzi:

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> Lost was a great show with a great ending.

I don’t disagree with that statement, but I certainly would have liked a bit more clarity about the mythology/nature of the island, the Smoke Monster’s nature and abilities, and the conflict between Ben and Charles Widmore and where Jacob actually fit into that. I hope that one day the producers will make some sort of official supplement to Lost in some form (whether video or comic book or prose) which would enhance the original series in such a manner.

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/85 "2013-11-19T21:04:37Z")

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Amanda Seyfried looks like E.T.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/86 "2013-11-19T21:05:09Z")

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Heinz makes ketchup, Hunt’s makes an abomination unto god.

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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/87 "2013-11-19T21:08:03Z")

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If you don’t like Tom Waits, you are a stunted human being.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/88 "2013-11-19T21:33:12Z")

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Absolutely **gallows** and I’ll add John Prine.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/89 "2013-11-19T21:33:56Z")

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Football is the stupidest thing ever invented. If the word ball, is right there in the title, you should try getting something that, y’know, looks like a damn ball maybe. Every play, it takes ten minutes to reset and play another ten seconds, beyond ridiculous. Players actually train by banging their necks/shoulders into things until they have no visible neck whatsoever. And BBQing in a parking lot with a thousand other hammerheads is just the pregame warm up, charming. And people are devoted to it, travel to games, pay big ticket prices, paint their bodies??

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/90 "2013-11-19T21:49:10Z")

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I don’t understand why people had a problem with the end of Sopranos and I’m not sure it’s subjective. I think some people didn’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/91 "2013-11-19T22:03:43Z")

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Watching professional sports for entertainment is a complete waste of almost everyone’s time\*. I exempt people who watch the super bowl for the commercials.

Woody Allen’s most recent movie, Blue something (Gardenia? Dahlia? some stupid flower that I’m not going to bother looking up), was complete crap, predictable and puerile. Good acting couldn’t save it from the hopelessly belabored plot.

Stephen Sondheim’s work is largely cynical and depressing, and the relative cleverness of some of the lyrics can’t overcome the weight of unpleasantness. There are easier ways for me to bring myself down, if I want to, than to witness one of those things. I wouldn’t want to be in his skin.

We need more inspired silliness in our entertainment, _á la_ Monty Python or The Goon Show. Too many things are either grim or stupid or both.

On the other hand, escapism has gone too far. Vampires, werewolves, zombies, magic - ye gods, people, come back to reality! It’s not that bad!  
Roddy

\*Of course, people are entitled to waste their time if they want to, I just hope none of them think they are getting anything out of it.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/92 "2013-11-19T22:36:25Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Chocolate is indeed, the Food of the Gods. If we go to the stars and all other forms of plants and animals from Earth are lost and forgotten and only Chocolate still exists, we will have done Earth proud.

There’s a chocolate shop here in town with a t-shirt for sale that states:

**SAVE THE EARTH! IT’S THE ONLY PLANET WITH CHOCOLATE.**

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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/93 "2013-11-19T22:40:28Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> American football is a much slower and less interesting game than **baseball**.

(My bolding)

Or Canadian Football.

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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/94 "2013-11-19T22:42:06Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> [snip] . . . with a thousand other hammerheads . . .

Hammerheads? You’re not I Ti-Cats fan are you? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/95 "2013-11-19T23:42:00Z")

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The Life Aquatic is the best Wes Anderson movie. Royal Tannenbaums is a close second.

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/96 "2013-11-19T23:42:18Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> To this Yank, [Mad Max](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079501/) and [The Road Warrior](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082694/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4) have always been two distinctly different movies.
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> But [Casablanca](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/?ref_=nv_sr_1) is the best movie ever.

oops, I forgot that RW was MM2, but Mad MAx is still the best movie.

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/97 "2013-11-20T02:15:33Z")

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Internet message boards are ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/98 "2013-11-20T02:22:42Z")

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Scotch is disgusting and everyone only pretends to like it because it’s expensive. I mean, a drink that tastes like smoke? WTH came up with this crap idea?

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**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/99 "2013-11-20T02:26:01Z")

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Cilantro is vile and ruins foods it is put in.

The thigh is the choicest part of the chicken, with gizzards and hearts a close second when prepared correctly. Turkey follows the same rule.

Mayo is a lousy condiment. Mustards rule in that department.

The popular songs by Yes were formulaic drivel with vapid lyrics.

The time to change the radio station is when a Bob Seger or Lynyrd Skynyrd song comes on.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/100 "2013-11-20T02:29:46Z")

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> [@Subterraneanus](#):
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> Internet message boards are ridiculous.

Og, ain’t that the truth!

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