# What subjective opinion are you most unshakably certain of?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198 "2013-11-18T19:37:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/101 "2013-11-20T02:35:33Z")

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> [@california\_jobcase](#):
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> The time to change the radio station is when a Bob Seger or Lynyrd Skynyrd song comes on.

FREEEEE BIIIRRRRDDDDD!!! WWOOOOOO!!!

It’s great see so much passion for music, but how do your tastes not change over time? Or barring that, how do not feel equally passionate about more than one style? Maybe I should split this off into another thread, but there are things from Hildegard von Bingen to Bach to Lady Gaga that give me chills and are just what I want to hear for a particular time and mood. Sure some works are true achievements and deserve special recognition, but that’s something different I would argue. IDK.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/102 "2013-11-20T02:42:19Z")

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The best way to cook a steak in on a cast iron skillet in a heap of real butter.  
There is no such thing as a bad Star Trek canon. Even voyager was great. So was Nelix.

Led Zeppelin sucks.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/103 "2013-11-20T02:42:20Z")

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Everything is overrated, except natural silence, eating when you’re really hungry, drinking when you’re really thirsty, and a hot shower after a week in the back country.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/104 "2013-11-20T02:43:01Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> I’m cool with most of this ;). I’m a Max Roach guy, but will listen to Morello. Ellington is the man, and Monk is the magician. And Wayne Shorter can swing a soprano, but not many others.
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> Oh, and Grant Green is better than Wes Montgomery. Yeah, I said it. (I love Wes, but think GG has a singular voice as a soloist)…

Oh, there are a lot of very good and even great jazz drummers, but Morello transcended to the realm of genius; his improvisation, technique and versatility on a five-piece trap has not been equaled. The only guy that comes close is Louie Bellson, who Morello heard playing with his father when he was a child.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/105 "2013-11-20T03:37:04Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Scotch is disgusting and everyone only pretends to like it because it’s expensive. I mean, a drink that tastes like smoke? WTH came up with this crap idea?

I hate to break it to you, but many of us really, genuinely love Scotch. No pretense, no pretending. Lovely stuff.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/106 "2013-11-20T03:48:46Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Lost was a great show with a great ending.

Ah, one of us. I agree 100% and don’t get the hate.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/107 "2013-11-20T03:55:03Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> I hate to break it to you, but many of us really, genuinely love Scotch. No pretense, no pretending. Lovely stuff.

Yeah! It doesn’t taste like smoke: it tastes like burned rubber bands!

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/108 "2013-11-20T04:14:41Z")

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All beer tastes terrible.

Every sport is boring to watch.

All country and most rap (in music) sucks.

Billy Joel doesn’t have a bad song.

Stephen King doesn’t have a bad book (not even Tommyknockers).

The best comic strip ever is Calvin and Hobbes.

The only video games worth playing are first and third person games.

A lot (but nowhere near all) of older and classical movies and books are boring, dull, and overall just uninteresting (movies and books made, say, before 1965).  
Dickens? Boring.  
Hemingway? Boring.  
Austen? Boring  
Tolstoy? Boring.  
Shakespeare? Most boring of all.  
_Casablanca?_ Boring.  
_Gone With the Wind?_ Boring.  
_It Happened One Night?_ Boring.  
Anything starring Humphery Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Katherine Hepburn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Audrey Hepburn, Betty Davis, Spencer Tracy, or Cary Grant (with the exception of Arsenic and Old Lace)? Boring, Boring, Boring.

Lewis Carroll, John Steinbeck, Mark Twain (and any of their books), Gregory Peck and Jimmy Stewart (and any of their movies) are all great, though. Many more, as well…  
…but most seem to be just…boring…

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/109 "2013-11-20T04:56:10Z")

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Mahaloth:

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> Ah, one of us. I agree 100% and don’t get the hate.

As a non-hater (and declared so up-thread), I have to ask, do you really not understand how the last season left a lot of long-time watchers feeling unsatisfied?

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/110 "2013-11-20T15:18:52Z")

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“Opera” singers on televised talent competitions are, universally, talentless hacks whose feeble fumblings are an insult to real opera singers.

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**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/111 "2013-11-20T15:23:13Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> “Opera” singers on televised talent competitions are, universally, talentless hacks whose feeble fumblings are an insult to real opera singers.

Works just as well if you remove the word “Opera”

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/112 "2013-11-20T15:25:33Z")

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> Works just as well if you remove the word “Opera”

🙂 Fair enough. I’m not insulted by the others, though.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/113 "2013-11-20T15:28:46Z")

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Most Moderators have zero taste. 😛

Baseball is the only sport. Football (all definitions) needs to be banned.

“I’ll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.” is the best t-shirt I’ve read all year.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/114 "2013-11-20T23:10:41Z")

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A well-crafted TV commercial can be a work of art, never mind the product. These are two of the best:

[Mistubishi Eclipse, “Days Go By,” with Dusty Paik](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH0zWrDi6GA)

[VW Jetta VR6, “Big Day,” with Kevin Rahm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSEnzs8AocY)

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**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/115 "2013-11-21T01:49:44Z")

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Greta Garbo is the loveliest woman to walk the earth.

Harrison Ford is the greatest action/adventure star in the history of mankind. But he should follow Garbo’s example and bow out of the movie business.

Despite the lack of Internet, the 1980s was a better decade to grow up in than any decade that followed.

The coffee at McDonalds is better than the coffee at Starbuck’s.

As virtues go, intelligence is overrated and courage is underrated. In the early Roman Republic, children were specifically raised to be brave. The Greeks, who raised their children to be smart, didn’t stand a chance.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/116 "2013-11-21T02:05:54Z")

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_Meredith Wilson’s The Music Man_ is the greatest musical ever, and the original film is an unmitigated masterpiece.

_Doctor Who_ always gets a pass.

_Starship Troopers_ is a perfect, nay, _holy_ movie.

Weird Al is a genius.

_Life of Pi_ sucks. So does the entire Jane Austen catalogue (please don’t tell my wife.)

Duke men’s basketball is the salvation of all mankind. Corollary: go to hell, Carolina.

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**Author:** ![tellyworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@tellyworth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tellyworth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/117 "2013-11-21T02:41:50Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> The ending to _The Prisoner_ is entirely straightforward and makes perfect sense.

I promise to agree with you if you’ll explain it to me.

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/118 "2013-11-21T02:50:23Z")

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There’s nothing especially clever or insightful about the line “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/119 "2013-11-21T03:15:55Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> As a non-hater (and declared so up-thread), I have to ask, do you really not understand how the last season left a lot of long-time watchers feeling unsatisfied?

I can understand a level of unsatisfication, just not “the hate”. I think it was well done, but I also think that they show-runners inherited a mess of mysteries. I think they did fairly well, especially when we get past the weak points in early season 3(the time they got their “end date” settled).

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**Author:** ![YoungKusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3e96dc/32.png) [@YoungKusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YoungKusher)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/120 "2013-11-21T03:59:51Z")

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> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#):
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> A good professional wrestling match is better than a good boxing match or MMA fight.

Lol. Yeah better the same way a movie is better than most peoples real lives! A good MMA fight or knockout is way more exciting in my opinion.

As for my eccentric belief, I think that people’s thoughts are not influenced by reality so much as reality is influenced by our thoughts. Sounds kind of crazy, but it’s true to a certain extent.

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