# What subjective opinion are you most unshakably certain of?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198 "2013-11-18T19:37:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/121 "2013-11-21T04:14:42Z")

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> [@tellyworth](#):
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> I promise to agree with you if you’ll explain it to me.

::shrugs::

In the pilot episode, they let Six think he’s leaving, but, _ha, we wuz just foolin’! 'Twas all a lie! Demoralized yet?_ That’s the whole plan. That’s it. That’s all.

FREE FOR ALL: they hold a ceremony proclaiming that Six has won; he immediately calls on every villager who’ll listen to fight alongside him as he makes for the control room. Except, of course – _‘Twas all a lie! We wuz just foolin’! This was just about building up to a reveal we hoped you’d find demoralizing!_

Again, that was it. They honestly thought that would break him.

SCHIZOID MAN: they put him face-to-face with a lookalike. “You know, you really do bear a remarkable resemblance; remarkable; your job, Number 12, will be to impersonate him. Take his sense of reality away. Once he begins to doubt his own identity, he’ll crack.”

That’s it. That was pretty much their whole plan. Pathetic, really.

Given those episodes, what’s the least imaginative story you could possibly write for the final episode? Well, they’d say he’s free to go, _ **and** _ they’d hold a ceremony proclaiming that he’s won, _ **and** _ they’d put him face-to-face with a lookalike, _ **and** _ he’d make for the control room to get the win if other villagers fight alongside him.

So add CHECKMATE – where he gets other villagers to fight alongside him – and you’ve got the ending in general. And add ONCE UPON A TIME – the last pre-finale episode, where he wins over the Leo McKern Number 2 – for the ending in particular.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/122 "2013-11-21T04:28:12Z")

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There is a whole lotta wrong in this thread.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/123 "2013-11-21T04:34:57Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> There is a whole lotta wrong in this thread.

Yeah, well, y’know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/124 "2013-11-21T04:50:08Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> I think the OP is asking for opinions, not facts. 😃 …_Rauschbier uber alles!_
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> Also, we will figure out that humans had little to do with climate shift, but it will take decades to confirm it.  
> It’s a hell of a lot more important that we focus on living with the changes, which are going to cause political disruption on an unbelievable scale, than it is to waste time trying to assign blame.

May I presume that you meant _[Rauchbier](http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/Rauchbier.html)_?

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**Author:** ![YoungKusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3e96dc/32.png) [@YoungKusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YoungKusher)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/125 "2013-11-21T04:53:38Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> American football is a much slower and less interesting game than baseball. If your sport needs cheerleaders, it’s because the action on the field is dull and predictable.

Slower?? Baseball is the only sport you can take a nap in… Baseball pales in comparison to American football. Talk about dull, the most complex thing about the game is all of the anagrams used to keep track of the stats!

The entire sport revolves around the ball. If your not hitting, throwing, or catching the ball your hardly even playing. At least in football every player serves a purpose on every play without ever needing to touch the ball. In fact, they don’t ever need to be near the ball to play a significant role.

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**Author:** ![YoungKusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3e96dc/32.png) [@YoungKusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YoungKusher)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/126 "2013-11-21T05:06:59Z")

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Anagram is supposed to be acronym^^^

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/127 "2013-11-21T12:44:27Z")

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A surprising number of people go out of their way to be offended or claim victimhood. It’s a way of life for some people.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/128 "2013-11-21T13:09:47Z")

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> [@gallows\_fodder](#):
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> If you don’t like Tom Waits, you are a stunted human being.

He was a great Renfield, probably closer to Bram Stoker’s vision of the character, but still, he’s no Dwight Frye.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/129 "2013-11-21T15:25:10Z")

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> [@YoungKusher](#):
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> At least in football every player serves a purpose on every play without ever needing to touch the ball. In fact, they don’t ever need to be near the ball to play a significant role.

[Well, it’s a shame that’s not the case for baseball.](http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_stba.shtml)😃

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/130 "2013-11-21T19:50:25Z")

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> [@YoungKusher](#):
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> Slower?? Baseball is the only sport you can take a nap in… Baseball pales in comparison to American football. Talk about dull, the most complex thing about the game is all of the anagrams used to keep track of the stats!
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> The entire sport revolves around the ball. If your not hitting, throwing, or catching the ball your hardly even playing. At least in football every player serves a purpose on every play without ever needing to touch the ball. In fact, they don’t ever need to be near the ball to play a significant role.

It is almost as if I have a subjective opinion that I am unshakably certain of. But yeah, American football is dreadfully slow and predictable.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/131 "2013-11-21T20:10:38Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Of questions of taste and preference where there is no factual answer, what position do you hold that you just can not imagine ever possibly changing your mind about? (It should probably be a position that at least some number of people in the world disagree with… not very interesting if you’re convinced that Casablanca is a better movie than Police Academy 6).
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> For me, it’s that the best order to read the Narnia books is the original publishing order, with **The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe** coming first. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever met, or heard of, anyone disagreeing with that… except, of course, for the people who are actually publishing the books. (And, arguably, and bafflingly, CS Lewis himself, although I have to imagine there was miscommunication there or something.)
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> I mean, **The Magician’s Nephew** is a fun book because it’s introducing all those things that we’re already familiar with. Reading it first is like watching **Friends** in chronological order, starting with that flashback episode to before the chronology of the series actually started.

Lewis didn’t actually say that the Chronicles should be read in terms of internal chronology. (Which would make an awfully strange read, as HORSE AND HIS BOY) takes place in the middle fo hte last chapter of LION.) Rather, he gently told a young fan who suggested it that there was nothing wrong with the idea, because he was a nice guy.

I’m sure Harper-Collins claims that Lewis wanted the books read in chrono order, but they’re a bunch of Etruscan bastards who in a just world would all have bene eaten by Kaiju by now.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/132 "2013-11-21T20:12:35Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> I hate to break it to you, but many of us really, genuinely love Scotch. No pretense, no pretending. Lovely stuff.

Count me, and I barely drink at all. I’m not a scotch snob, I don’t think; I only drink the varieties I like, and only for the taste.

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**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/133 "2013-11-21T20:14:29Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> It is almost as if I have a subjective opinion that I am unshakably certain of. But yeah, American football is dreadfully slow and predictable.

You are both right. **All** American sports are terrible 😉

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/134 "2013-11-21T20:21:32Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> The only video games worth playing are first and third person games.

What other options are there?

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/135 "2013-11-21T20:23:45Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> … but I also think that they show-runners inherited a mess of mysteries.

Inherited? Who did they inherit them from? The X Files??

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> I think they did fairly well, especially when we get past the weak points in early season 3(the time they got their “end date” settled).

Who was responsible for the weak points in season 3? Battlestar Galactica? (Wait, they came later.)

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/136 "2013-11-21T20:55:09Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Inherited? Who did they inherit them from? The X Files??

Really. The X files had some pretty blatant contradictions they had to either gloss over or work around. I’ve tried to forget LOST as much as possible but I don’t think their problems quite rose to that level of fucked-upped-ness. I think with some imagination, a little handwaving and at least some desire to have something approaching a real denouement, they could have done an infinitely better job.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/137 "2013-11-21T21:20:21Z")

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> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> Seinfeld was not a funny TV show. It was mundane, boring and just plain annoying at times.

OTOH, the ending of Seinfeld was absolutely perfect! The characters were are all awful people: shallow, selfish, and mean-spirited. They totally deserved to wind up in jail.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/138 "2013-11-21T21:27:52Z")

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The only acceptable use for whiskey is to add orange juice and make a whiskey sour. Or add Coke and make a Jack & Coke. Straight whskey is hideous. You might as well be drinking paint thinner. As someone else on this board once said, straight whiskey is for people who want to wake up on the floor.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/139 "2013-11-21T21:43:27Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> As someone else on this board once said, straight whiskey is for people who want to wake up on the floor.

You’re thinking of grain alcohol.

Oh wait, you did say ‘wake up’ right?

My mistake. :eek:

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-subjective-opinion-are-you-most-unshakably-certain-of/674198/140 "2013-11-21T22:13:01Z")

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Offal is awful.

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