# What super-powered Marvel heroine would you like to see in the next AVENGERS movie? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865 "2015-05-12T15:44:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/21 "2015-05-12T18:05:19Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I’m pretty certain Janey Van Dyne is IN the upcoming Ant Man movie, isn’t she? There’s certainly a woman in the trailer with that hairstyle. > > And Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel is already a movie inbound. Jeez, keep up! IMDB has a credit for a “Hope van Dyne,” who appears to be the woman in the trailer - she’s the one who says, “These are your greatest allies,” before you see the first ant. I’m guessing Hank’s daughter/Scott Lang’s love interest. ---
**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/22 "2015-05-12T18:05:22Z")
Jane Lynch as she Hulk. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/23 "2015-05-12T18:37:38Z")
I don’t know enough about these superheroes to comment intelligently, but I would have to vote for Valkryie. I love Valkryies - it’s an awesome myth - and I’d love to see some woman kicking ass with a sword. Let’s get a properly tall actress, with a nice build. I am so sick of little girls kicking the crap out of big guys. And don’t hesitate to make her feminine. Women do not need to be masculine to be tough. We can be womanly, feminine, beautiful, and still kick your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/24 "2015-05-12T18:46:16Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I don’t know enough about these superheroes to comment intelligently, but I would have to vote for Valkryie. I love Valkryies - it’s an awesome myth - and I’d love to see some woman kicking ass with a sword. > > Let’s get a properly tall actress, with a nice build. I am so sick of little girls kicking the crap out of big guys. And don’t hesitate to make her feminine. Women do not need to be masculine to be tough. We can be womanly, feminine, beautiful, and still kick your ass. Intelligent comment? In one of my threads? Are you feverish? Here’s a picture of [Valkyrie](http://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/672f.jpg). She has a flying horse and is the reincarnation of Brunhilde from RING OF THE NIEBELUNGEN. (Anyone who dares correct my spelling will have his tiramisu ration confiscated.) I would like for her to get a goddamn pair of pants, to be honest, but as everyone knows that, in the female superhero community, only Sue Storm and Batchicks get pants. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/25 "2015-05-12T18:47:08Z")
Samantha Bee as **Squirrel Girl** > **[Squirrel Girl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squirrel_Girl)** > > Squirrel Girl (Doreen Allene Green) is a superheroine appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer Will Murray and writer-artist Steve Ditko, the character first appeared in Marvel Super-Heroes vol. 2 #8, a.k.a. Marvel Super-Heroes Winter Special (cover-dated Winter 1991). Murray created the character out of a desire to write lighthearted stories, in contrast to the heavily dramatic tales that were then norm in mainstream comics. > Although distinct from Marvel's... ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/26 "2015-05-12T18:50:16Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Intelligent comment? In one of my threads? Are you feverish? > > Here’s a picture of [Valkyrie](http://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/672f.jpg). She has a flying horse and is the reincarnation of Brunhilde from RING OF THE NIEBELUNGEN. (Anyone who dares correct my spelling will have his tiramisu ration confiscated.) I would like for her to get a goddamn pair of pants, to be honest, but as everyone knows that, in the female superhero community, only Sue Storm and Batchicks get pants. Yeah, I would love to see Valkyrie, as well. That would be awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/27 "2015-05-12T18:50:47Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Intelligent comment? In one of my threads? Are you feverish? > > Here’s a picture of [Valkyrie](http://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/672f.jpg). She has a flying horse and is the reincarnation of Brunhilde from RING OF THE NIEBELUNGEN. (Anyone who dares correct my spelling will have his tiramisu ration confiscated.) I would like for her to get a goddamn pair of pants, to be honest, but as everyone knows that, in the female superhero community, only Sue Storm and Batchicks get pants. Pants are weird in the superhero world. I loooooved Age of Ultron but they were not consistent with the Hulk’s pants. Does he have super stretchy ones or what? I don’t particularly want to see Hulk-Dick but jeez louise. I will definitely not correct your spelling. Tiramisu is the food of the gods. But a proper Valkryie should look like this. [Valkryie](https://www.google.com/search?q=valkyrie&safe=active&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=KktSVaakJMG1sQSTxYC4Dw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=704#imgrc=_NdAPUU7KTTR5M%253A%3B54Z0MG1abGGTjM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwallpaper.pickywallpapers.com%252F1440x900%252Fvalkyrie.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.pickywallpapers.com%252F1440x900%252Ffantasy%252Fart%252Fvalkyrie-wallpaper%252Fdownload%252F%3B1440%3B900), only maybe shinier. Armor is super important! ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/28 "2015-05-12T19:00:41Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Pants are weird in the superhero world. I loooooved Age of Ultron but they were not consistent with the Hulk’s pants. Does he have super stretchy ones or what? I don’t particularly want to see Hulk-Dick but jeez louise. > > I will definitely not correct your spelling. Tiramisu is the food of the gods. > > But a proper Valkryie should look like this. [Valkryie](https://www.google.com/search?q=valkyrie&safe=active&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=KktSVaakJMG1sQSTxYC4Dw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=704#imgrc=_NdAPUU7KTTR5M%253A%3B54Z0MG1abGGTjM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwallpaper.pickywallpapers.com%252F1440x900%252Fvalkyrie.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.pickywallpapers.com%252F1440x900%252Ffantasy%252Fart%252Fvalkyrie-wallpaper%252Fdownload%252F%3B1440%3B900), only maybe shinier. Armor is super important! Not for Asgardians. Even Loki, who is only of average strength for an Asgardian, is so tough that the best it’s gonna do is constrain his movements. (And no, there was no scene in the first AVENGERS movie in which Loki managed to stab Thor and draw bloood with any itty bitty blade. That DID NOT HAPPEN,) (Somebody remind me to pelt Whedon with citrus.) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/29 "2015-05-12T19:00:45Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > Carol Danvers. I don’t care which alias she uses, or how they shoehorn her into the plot. > > As I understand it, Hank Pym is an old geezer in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so how about Janet van Dyne in a cameo, played by an older-but-still-hot actress? > > I would love to see the Valkyrie in a Thor movie, even if she is only lurking in the background in a crowd scene. > According to [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_Johnson), she is already a regular on _Agents of SHIELD_. That’s why. You obviously don’t follow the AoS threads. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/30 "2015-05-12T19:30:43Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Not for Asgardians. Even Loki, who is only of average strength for an Asgardian, is so tough that the best it’s gonna do is constrain his movements. Ok, how about something like what Loki or Thor wear? Reds and greens and gold, very beautiful. I just don’t want her to be all titty-titty-ass-ass. Let’s have her dress sensibly at least. Ah! I just looked up Sif’s clothes and I find them very acceptable. Sexy but not stupidly revealing. Something like that in gold. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/31 "2015-05-12T19:49:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Sandra Bullock as Shulky. She could pull off the light-hearted attorney/kick-ass hero bit easy. > [@Ethilrist](#): > > Okay, fine. I was going to suggest Adrianne Palicki as She-Hulk, but she’s already kind of associated with Agents of SHIELD. > > and kind of nekkid in Smallville, so there’s that, too. Rowr. Ahem. > > Can’t use Lucy Lawless for the same reason (AoS, not Smallville), or Famke Janssen for a similar one, and we’re running out of tall, statuesque actresses. > [@Gothic](#): > > Jane Lynch as she Hulk. Whoever plays She-Hulk could only be her in the de-powered configuration. The big and green version would require a lot of CGI. I don’t know if the state of the art is up to the task yet, but it would be interesting to see what they could come up with. And as I’ve said many times, you don’t cast people to play superheroes, you cast them to play their alter egos. Anybody could be in the Iron Man suit; the movies work because Robert Downey Jr. is great as Tony Stark. They might want to deliberately cast someone mousy and shy (well, the Hollywood version of mousy and shy) as Jennifer Walters, and it would be that much more extreme when she hulks out. > [@Anaamika](#): > > I am so sick of little girls kicking the crap out of big guys. That’s pretty much Joss Whedon’s whole shtick. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/32 "2015-05-12T19:53:29Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Ok, how about something like what Loki or Thor wear? Reds and greens and gold, very beautiful. I just don’t want her to be all titty-titty-ass-ass. Let’s have her dress sensibly at least. > > Ah! I just looked up Sif’s clothes and I find them very acceptable. Sexy but not stupidly revealing. Something like that in gold. I was the one who demanded pants for Valkyrie (and Wonder Woman, and Storm) in the first place. I could do without the pointy boob things in the picture I linked too as well. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Whoever plays She-Hulk could only be her in the de-powered configuration. The big and green version would require a lot of CGI. I don’t know if the state of the art is up to the task yet, but it would be interesting to see what they could come up with. Why would it by any worse than CGI Hulk? > [@](#): > > And as I’ve said many times, you don’t cast people to play superheroes, you cast them to play their alter egos. Anybody could be in the Iron Man suit; the movies work because Robert Downey Jr. is great as Tony Stark. They might want to deliberately cast someone mousy and shy (well, the Hollywood version of mousy and shy) as Jennifer Walters, and it would be that much more extreme when she hulks out. I think the majority of the Iron Man scenes – certainly all of them in which he’s wearing the full helmet – are CGI. No reason to do otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/33 "2015-05-12T19:56:34Z")
I want to see Carol Danvers introduced but am fine with her having a superhero origin story in her solo movie. I know Marvel said they were done with that but I like to imagine her solo movie as being kind of like “Homeland” with super powers. She’s investigating a potential alien sleeper-cell agent in Captain Mar-vell and ends up gaining powers and adopting his mantle. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/34 "2015-05-12T19:58:32Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > That’s pretty much Joss Whedon’s whole shtick. Me and my SO hate Joss Whedon very, very much. And yet I love the Avengers movies. I love the cast and the stories. We go and hold our nose and try not to acknowledge they are Whedon movies. ---
**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/35 "2015-05-12T20:01:39Z")
I would go see a movie three times in the theatre if it had a scene with Jane Lynch calling Thor porcelain. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/36 "2015-05-12T20:10:41Z")
> [@Gothic](#): > > I would go see a movie three times in the theatre if it had a scene with Jane Lynch calling Thor porcelain. I don’t understand. Why would she call him that? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/37 "2015-05-12T20:12:02Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Why would it by any worse than CGI Hulk? She-Hulk is a big, green, well-built but otherwise normally-proportioned woman, just, like, 7 feet tall. They can take a lot of liberties with how they draw the Hulk because he’s kind of a big, misshapen blob of rage and strength. Realistically, they could justify using a certain amount of forced perspective to make the actress appear as large as she needs to be, and to CGI that would be extremely challenging (see: Paul Walker). That said, they did the exact opposite creating the CGI version of Chris Evans for Captain America, so maybe it’s time. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/38 "2015-05-12T20:12:51Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Why would it by any worse than CGI Hulk? I don’t think it would be worse, but it would have to be better. He-Hulk doesn’t do much except snarl and throw cars at people he doesn’t like, which is everyone. She-Hulk needs to interact with people, say and do things; in short, she needs to have a personality. (I can hear **Skald** laughing already.) It will be harder to do that convincingly than what they’ve done with Hulk so far. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/39 "2015-05-12T20:20:55Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t think it would be worse, but it would have to be better. He-Hulk doesn’t do much except snarl and throw cars at people he doesn’t like, which is everyone. She-Hulk needs to interact with people, say and do things; in short, she needs to have a personality. (I can hear **Skald** laughing already.) It will be harder to do that convincingly than what they’ve done with Hulk so far. I LOVE Shulky’s personality. She’s funny rather than angst-ridden, joyful rather than tormented. They took all the irritating things that make Hulk unusable in a group ad jettisoned them. I can even forgive the ridiculous boobs, even though I’m on record as preferring smallish ones, because Shulky is fun. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/40 "2015-05-12T20:24:45Z")
I voted for She-Hulk since she seems like the character most likely to be given a personality of all of those listed. The Quake character who was mentioned seems interesting, but suffers from not being a tier 1 character in the Marvel universe, compared to She-Hulk, and already being a TV character. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865.md?page=3)