# What super-powered Marvel heroine would you like to see in the next AVENGERS movie? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865 "2015-05-12T15:44:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/81 "2015-05-13T22:18:46Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > My vote is Joanna Cargill in her Frenzy mode. Played by her fellow glamazon Aisha Tyler. Ugh. Frenzy is supposed to be nowhere near a “glamazon.” She’s supposed to be a butch, buff woman like Grace Jones on roids. (although Jones was kind of glamazon wasn’t she?) Then at some point… she got turned into Rihanna. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/82 "2015-05-13T22:45:30Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I’m not a Halle Berry fan. Nice body, boring face. > > At an appropriate time I will punish you for the fascist crack. I have to replenish the electric eel stocks first. Halle Berry has a face? 😉 c’mon admit it. If you lifted Dyanne Thorne from the Ilsa movies and used her as Kapitan Marvel no one could tell the difference. (I know Fascist doesn’t equal Nazi but I couldn’t think of another reference.) > [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Ugh. Frenzy is supposed to be nowhere near a “glamazon.” > She’s supposed to be a butch, buff woman like Grace Jones on roids. (although Jones was kind of glamazon wasn’t she?) > Then at some point… she got turned into Rihanna. Frenzy was drawn and portrayed very butch originally, true, but it’s comics. NO female stays that way for long. Hell, look at the improved [Amanda Waller](https://www.google.com/search?q=Amanda+Waller&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PtFTVezEC8PRsAXN5oGoDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=955#imgrc=Dw9-Nz1n556qwM%253A%3BIH6maX5G55MewM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.comicvine.com%252Fuploads%252Foriginal%252F6%252F66303%252F2576944-original.jpeg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.comicvine.com%252Fforums%252Fgen-discussion-1%252Fanyone-else-not-liking-skinny-amanda-waller-1512876%252F%3B1277%3B2066) compared to the [original](https://www.google.com/search?q=Amanda+Waller&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PtFTVezEC8PRsAXN5oGoDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=955#imgrc=piCOX2tEHlhcYM%253A%3B6sWg3d830lRGeM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%252F__cb20120724222939%252Fbatman%252Fimages%252Fb%252Fb6%252FAmanda_Waller_YJ.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.reddit.com%252Fr%252Fcomicbooks%252Fcomments%252F2cpeil%252Ffat_amanda_waller_or_skinny_amanda_waller%252F%3B359%3B697). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/83 "2015-05-14T00:00:58Z")
I wasn’t sure how to vote at first, but finally settled on She-Hulk. Not for any nudity-related reasons, and not because I think she’d most easily fit into the storyline (she wouldn’t), but just because she’s a lot of fun. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/84 "2015-05-14T12:08:44Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > Halle Berry has a face? 😉 > > c’mon admit it. If you lifted Dyanne Thorne from the Ilsa movies and used her as Kapitan Marvel no one could tell the difference. (I know Fascist doesn’t equal Nazi but I couldn’t think of another reference.) > > Frenzy was drawn and portrayed very butch originally, true, but it’s comics. NO female stays that way for long. Hell, look at the improved [Amanda Waller](https://www.google.com/search?q=Amanda+Waller&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PtFTVezEC8PRsAXN5oGoDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=955#imgrc=Dw9-Nz1n556qwM%253A%3BIH6maX5G55MewM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.comicvine.com%252Fuploads%252Foriginal%252F6%252F66303%252F2576944-original.jpeg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.comicvine.com%252Fforums%252Fgen-discussion-1%252Fanyone-else-not-liking-skinny-amanda-waller-1512876%252F%3B1277%3B2066) compared to the [original](https://www.google.com/search?q=Amanda+Waller&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PtFTVezEC8PRsAXN5oGoDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=955#imgrc=piCOX2tEHlhcYM%253A%3B6sWg3d830lRGeM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%252F__cb20120724222939%252Fbatman%252Fimages%252Fb%252Fb6%252FAmanda_Waller_YJ.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.reddit.com%252Fr%252Fcomicbooks%252Fcomments%252F2cpeil%252Ffat_amanda_waller_or_skinny_amanda_waller%252F%3B359%3B697). Seriously. My favorite example is Red Sonja, who for most of her career has worn what looks like a bikini made out of silver dollars\* [https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=AwrB8pwokFRVNCIAgDeJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTIyMGdxYXRiBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM5YjkzYTAyZGNlZjM1YWQxMGVhYzg0ZDczMmRlMWE2ZgRncG9zAzMEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DRed%2BSonja%2BFrank%2BThorne%26fr%3Dyfp-t-252%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D3&w=467&h=700&imgurl=lamanodelextranjero.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F10%2Fred-sonja-de-frank-thorne.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Flamanodelextranjero.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F10%2F10%2Fconan-el-barbaro-del-pulp-a-los-fotogramas-ii%2F&size=215.3KB&name=\Red\<%2Fb\>+\Sonja\<%2Fb\>%2C+de+\Frank\<%2Fb\>+\Thorne\<%2Fb\>&p=Red+Sonja+Frank+Thorne&oid=9b93a02dcef35ad10eac84d732de1a6f&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-252&tt=\Red\<%2Fb\>+\Sonja\<%2Fb\>%2C+de+\Frank\<%2Fb\>+\Thorne\<%2Fb\>&b=0&ni=240&no=3&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=132cfkht8&sigb=134ghsls1&sigi=12d6tgrou&sigt=11m0sk5of&sign=11m0sk5of&.crumb=iFnxBO8CwGG&fr=yfp-t-252](https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrB8pwokFRVNCIAgDeJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTIyMGdxYXRiBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM5YjkzYTAyZGNlZjM1YWQxMGVhYzg0ZDczMmRlMWE2ZgRncG9zAzMEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DRed%2BSonja%2BFrank%2BThorne%26fr%3Dyfp-t-252%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D3&w=467&h=700&imgurl=lamanodelextranjero.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F10%2Fred-sonja-de-frank-thorne.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Flamanodelextranjero.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F10%2F10%2Fconan-el-barbaro-del-pulp-a-los-fotogramas-ii%2F&size=215.3KB&name=%3Cb%3ERed%3C%2Fb%3E+%3Cb%3ESonja%3C%2Fb%3E%2C+de+%3Cb%3EFrank%3C%2Fb%3E+%3Cb%3EThorne%3C%2Fb%3E&p=Red+Sonja+Frank+Thorne&oid=9b93a02dcef35ad10eac84d732de1a6f&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-252&tt=%3Cb%3ERed%3C%2Fb%3E+%3Cb%3ESonja%3C%2Fb%3E%2C+de+%3Cb%3EFrank%3C%2Fb%3E+%3Cb%3EThorne%3C%2Fb%3E&b=0&ni=240&no=3&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=132cfkht8&sigb=134ghsls1&sigi=12d6tgrou&sigt=11m0sk5of&sign=11m0sk5of&.crumb=iFnxBO8CwGG&fr=yfp-t-252) But who originally looked like this: [https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=AwrB8pV4j1RVMEUAkGeJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTIyYmc5NGIzBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMwMDQyODIyMDA1MGJiNmZkNzg0NjFiOThhOWI1ZmM2OQRncG9zAzEEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DRed%2BSonya%2BBarry%2BSmith%26fr%3Dyfp-t-252%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D1&w=285&h=469&imgurl=media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fe5%2F21%2Ffd%2Fe521fd06504812cf1ed60c159dc2bea4.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpinterest.com%2Fpin%2F304485624776432950%2F&size=107.0KB&name=\Red\<%2Fb\>+\Sonja\<%2Fb\>+by+\Barry\<%2Fb\>+Windsor-\Smith\<%2Fb\>.&p=red+sonja+barry+smith&oid=00428220050bb6fd78461b98a9b5fc69&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-252&rw=red+sonja+barry+smith&tt=\Red\<%2Fb\>+\Sonja\<%2Fb\>+by+\Barry\<%2Fb\>+Windsor-\Smith\<%2Fb\>.&b=0&ni=240&no=1&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11coev623&sigb=133eoh2k1&sigi=12dbivp10&sigt=11tsc423m&sign=11tsc423m&.crumb=iFnxBO8CwGG&fr=yfp-t-252](https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrB8pV4j1RVMEUAkGeJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTIyYmc5NGIzBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMwMDQyODIyMDA1MGJiNmZkNzg0NjFiOThhOWI1ZmM2OQRncG9zAzEEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DRed%2BSonya%2BBarry%2BSmith%26fr%3Dyfp-t-252%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D1&w=285&h=469&imgurl=media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fe5%2F21%2Ffd%2Fe521fd06504812cf1ed60c159dc2bea4.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpinterest.com%2Fpin%2F304485624776432950%2F&size=107.0KB&name=%3Cb%3ERed%3C%2Fb%3E+%3Cb%3ESonja%3C%2Fb%3E+by+%3Cb%3EBarry%3C%2Fb%3E+Windsor-%3Cb%3ESmith%3C%2Fb%3E.&p=red+sonja+barry+smith&oid=00428220050bb6fd78461b98a9b5fc69&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-252&rw=red+sonja+barry+smith&tt=%3Cb%3ERed%3C%2Fb%3E+%3Cb%3ESonja%3C%2Fb%3E+by+%3Cb%3EBarry%3C%2Fb%3E+Windsor-%3Cb%3ESmith%3C%2Fb%3E.&b=0&ni=240&no=1&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11coev623&sigb=133eoh2k1&sigi=12dbivp10&sigt=11tsc423m&sign=11tsc423m&.crumb=iFnxBO8CwGG&fr=yfp-t-252) - (as well as having ludicrously long hair and a made-up face that looks like she just stepped out of a beauty parlor, even if she’s been hacking at bat-winged demons all day) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865/85 "2015-05-15T23:45:03Z")
She-Hulk, just because I’ve long thought it would be cool for them to have a team made up of “replacements” show up at some point. USAgent, War Machine, She-Hulk, Thunderstrike (or maybe Hercules if Thunderstrike is too high concept for casuals going to movies, Beta Ray Thor is obviously right out), etc. I know War Machine technically joins at the end of the 2nd movie [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-super-powered-marvel-heroine-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-avengers-movie/719865.md?page=4)