# What the Bannon factor tells us about Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056 "2016-11-15T15:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/41 "2016-11-17T20:51:07Z")
I was wondering this too. My default position is to ignore the “racist / sexist” accusations that get tossed around in modern society. ---
**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/42 "2016-11-17T20:53:50Z")
> [@riffraffselbow](#): > > He’s a racist! He’s sexist! Just like Romney! Nice job clearing things up. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/43 "2016-11-17T20:54:54Z")
> [@riffraffselbow](#): > > He’s a racist! He’s sexist! Just like Romney! Careful, you might be talking about [our next Secretary of State](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/17/romney-and-trump-to-discuss-secretary-of-state-position-nbc-source-says.html) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/44 "2016-11-17T20:58:54Z")
[Oh, for Christ’s sake.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=810974) ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/45 "2016-11-17T21:01:06Z")
Merged threads starting at post #38. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/46 "2016-11-17T21:07:54Z")
> [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](#): > > Seriously. I keep hearing that he’s some kind of anti-semitic, white-supremacist monster, but the only evidence I’ve seen is bits of a leaked deposition from a contested divorce. > > Is there any other evidence to support this notion? No ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/47 "2016-11-17T21:09:05Z")
Fuck of a lot better than Giuliani or Bolton! Say what you will, Trump makes Romney look _good_! Romney is the candidate from Central Casting, firm chin, just the right little dab of grey at the temples, which he’s had for…what?..eight, ten years? Now, that’s _total_ self control, grow just the right amount of grey hair, and then stop! But compared to those two neo-con dipshits? Yeah, sure. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/48 "2016-11-17T21:14:16Z")
Maybe Democrats should lay off the doomsday language the next time Republicans run a McCain or a Romney. Now they just look like the boy who cried “wolf” ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/49 "2016-11-17T21:19:26Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Maybe Democrats should lay off the doomsday language the next time Republicans run a McCain or a Romney. Now they just look like the boy who cried “wolf” Which “doomsday language”? Remind me. Well, McCain \*did \*name Palin his #2. That was pretty frightening. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/50 "2016-11-17T21:22:20Z")
trump is just pence and his cronies stooge … they knew a hard alt right couldn’t get elected so that crowd supported to him knowing the no moderate republican would want anything to do with him even if elected… so they found their version of Ronald Reagan “he was great he did what we told him to do” Only problem is how long can they keep him from doing something stupid/ something they don’t like ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c67d28/32.png) [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/51 "2016-11-17T21:43:22Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Merged threads starting at post #38. > > [/moderating] Ahhhh! Dammit! I deliberately chose to start a new thread rather than post it here because I didn’t want my question lost in the shuffle. Now nobody is going to address it substantively. On the other hand, they probably weren’t going to anyway… ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/52 "2016-11-17T22:40:06Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Which “doomsday language”? Remind me. Just a couple of examples: > [@](#): > > [… our most important political goal must be to stop Mitt Romney from becoming president of the United States. We cannot allow government of, by, and for, the 1%. I fear for my country, and my world, if that man becomes our leader.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/05/1155888/-We-Need-Barack-Obama-We-Need-to-Stop-Mitt) Seems a tad over-the-top these days, doesn’t it? Or how about “[Romney Apocalypse](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/05/1155571/-Romney-Apocalypse-Puppetry-Of-The-Priebus-The-Medium-Is-The-Mess-Thinking-Outside-The-Fox)”? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/53 "2016-11-17T23:27:01Z")
> [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](#): > > … I deliberately chose to start a new thread rather than post it here because I didn’t want my question lost in the shuffle. Now nobody is going to address it substantively. It was already addressed substantively in the OP, and with [this link](http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.3850142/trump-pick-for-chief-advisor-steve-bannon-disastrous-for-america-1.3850146). Here are a couple of others: > **[Steve Bannon Will Lead Trump’s White House](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/steve-bannon-will-lead-trumps-white-house)** > > When Bannon was asked about racist and anti-Semitic appeals during the Trump campaign, he insisted, implausibly, that he favors nationalism, not white nationalism. > **[Donald Trump Is Steve Bannon's Latest Weapon in His Crusade to Destroy the Left](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/the-radical-anti-conservatism-of-stephen-bannon/496796/)** > > Donald Trump’s campaign manager wants to destroy the left. And the GOP nominee is just the most recent vessel of convenience in his consequences-be-damned crusade. tl;dr: Bannon is a hateful neo-Nazi who represents the very worst of the Trump white nationalist gang. He’s been spreading hate propaganda through the shameful Breitbart site ever since he took it over, and now it’s the propaganda arm of the Trump presidency. To have a reprehensible racist like this actually inside the White House in a leadership position is a national tragedy with potentially horrific long term implications. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/54 "2016-11-17T23:41:46Z")
I read the New Yorker article, and couldn’t find much evidence of him being an evil racist. What did I miss? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/55 "2016-11-17T23:52:09Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Careful, you might be talking about [our next Secretary of State](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/17/romney-and-trump-to-discuss-secretary-of-state-position-nbc-source-says.html) This would actually be encouraging. Romney is the only decent human being I’ve seen in the mix. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/56 "2016-11-17T23:52:30Z")
> [@](#): > > I read the New Yorker article, and couldn’t find much evidence of him being an evil racist. What did I miss? This isn’t the Pit, its not fair to tempt people like that. ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c67d28/32.png) [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/57 "2016-11-17T23:55:38Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > It was already addressed substantively in the OP, and with [this link](http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.3850142/trump-pick-for-chief-advisor-steve-bannon-disastrous-for-america-1.3850146). > > Here are a couple of others: > [Steve Bannon Will Lead Trump’s White House | The New Yorker](http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/steve-bannon-will-lead-trumps-white-house) > [Steven Bannon, Donald Trump's new campaign chief and alt-right hero, wants to destroy the left at all costs - The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/the-radical-anti-conservatism-of-stephen-bannon/496796/) > tl;dr: Bannon is a hateful neo-Nazi who represents the very worst of the Trump white nationalist gang. Ok, I waded through all three of those articles, and I didn’t see a particle of support for this “hateful neo-Nazi white nationalist” business. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/58 "2016-11-18T00:40:35Z")
> [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](#): > > Ok, I waded through all three of those articles, and I didn’t see a particle of support for this “hateful neo-Nazi white nationalist” business. Headlines from his newspaper: “Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy” “Political correctness protects Muslim rape culture” “suck it up buttercups: dangerous faggot tour returns to colleges in September.” “The solution to online ‘harassment’ is simple: women should log off.” “Two months left until Obama gives dictators control of the internet.” “There’s no hiring bias against women in tech, they just suck at interview.” “Trannies whine about hilarious Bruce Jenner billboard.” ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c67d28/32.png) [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/59 "2016-11-18T00:51:13Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Headlines from his newspaper: > > “Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy” > > “Political correctness protects Muslim rape culture” > > “suck it up buttercups: dangerous faggot tour returns to colleges in September.” > > “The solution to online ‘harassment’ is simple: women should log off.” > > “Two months left until Obama gives dictators control of the internet.” > > “There’s no hiring bias against women in tech, they just suck at interview.” > > “Trannies whine about hilarious Bruce Jenner billboard.” Yes, I saw them. Which of these is supposed to support this “hateful neo-Nazi white nationalist” thesis, and why? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/60 "2016-11-18T00:58:26Z")
Drastic medicine, but the situation calls for it. Go to their site. Scan headlines, click on anything that looks like it might reflect on race or ethnicity. Read the comments. Good God, not all of them! Just enough to get the tone of it. Check back with us so we know you’re OK. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056.md?page=4)