# What the Bannon factor tells us about Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056 "2016-11-15T15:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/101 "2016-11-18T22:44:19Z")
I don’t know what it says about Trump other than he values and rewards loyalty above all else but I do know some of the liberal reaction to his choices has been unreasoning and hysterical. [Take this woman for instance.](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/18/trump-staff-picks-disappoint-alarm-minority-groups.html) > [@](#): > > Lennie Gerber, an 80-year-old resident of High Point, North Carolina, who led the fight against her state’s ban on same-sex marriage, said she worried Trump’s appointments will further incite such sentiments among the public. > > “Saying that kind of thing incites the racism and the anti-gay feelings in everybody else and says you’re free to express these things,” Gerber said. “These people who’ve been suppressed by the positive transformation that has gone on over the last few years are now feeling free to express themselves.” “Saying that kind of thing … says you’re free to express these things”? “These people who’ve been suppressed … are now feeling free to express themselves.”? Where the hell does she think she’s living? North Korea? Of course people should feel free to express themselves, whatever they believe. That’s what the US is about. This is so typical of the ‘progressive’ mindset that’s been trying to impose itself on the country during Obama’s Presidency. The only freedom of speech permissible is speech that concurs with their beliefs. All other speech must be suppressed, shouted down, and people should keep their mouths shut unless they adhere to the party line. I applaud Trump for his bold appointments, including Bannon. It is so refreshing to see political correctness about to be turfed out of the White House on its ass. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/102 "2016-11-18T22:58:23Z")
> [@](#): > > What’s he doing though? So far is all I’ve really heard Trump say is that he’s considering people, or named a few, for cabinet positions. is the scary power grab coming from something Trump himself said, or some tertiary figure in Trump’s orbit? Appointments are a sincere indication of intention. Many of us suspect, with good reason, the Jeff Sessions does not intend to be a champion of equal rights, especially as regards voting. His installment as AG does kinda suggest to us that those concerns are not his. Any of this getting through? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/103 "2016-11-18T23:05:11Z")
> [@Frankenstein\_Monster](#): > > … I must’ve read at least ten times that he once was denied a judgeship for racism. But I had to go to Wikipedia for myself to see that he was elected to the US Senate 4 times, with ever growing majorities, most recently even running unopposed. Why didn’t they write that he is popular and powerful Senator and probably will be effective (alas)?.. Lot of us kinda think that a powerful and effective racist Senator is not a good thing. Does the fact that he was elected absolve him, in some way? Or does it suggest that the people who elected him share those views? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/104 "2016-11-18T23:09:00Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Whether or not Bannon is an actual racist himself, he pushes forward racist view points and courts racist readers and to the racist vote. It is entirely possible that Bannon doesn’t actually have anything against black people but just cynically sees an opportunity in appealing to racists. But if so that is irrelevant. > > Whether you work to turn back decades of work towards civil rights because you think non-whites are inferior, or do so because you see political opportunity in pandering to those who think non-whites are inferior the results are the same. Exactly. His actions, his impact, and his appeal to the very worst of the Trump demographic is why Trump took him on board and is now rewarding him with what is turning out to be possibly the most influential position in his administration. The fact that Jeff Sessions is going to be the AG is just part and parcel of the same thing – some may recall that in saner times, Sessions was rejected by the Senate for a federal judgeship over allegations of racism, such as a bad habit in his lower-court days of referring to black prosecutors as “boy”. These are not mere anomalies in the Trump team – these are the core values that bind them. It’s amazing watching the contortions that Trump supporters put themselves through to try to defend Bannon. I’m sure they’ll be out in force defending Confederate good ol’ boy Sessions, too. Defending the indefensible … White supremacists understand the parallels between Goebbels and Bannon. That’s why the so-called alt-right is applauding Bannon’s key position in the Trump White House. That’s why former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke [told CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/), “You have an individual, Mr. Bannon, who’s basically creating the ideological aspects of where we’re going.” That’s why Americans of every stripe should be appalled. Bannon, as chairman of Breitbart News, ran a website that trafficked in racist propaganda, targeted Muslims and immigrants with impunity and spread outright lies about those it considered enemies of the racist alt-right movement. > **[Jones: Bannon like another hateful propagandist, Nazis' Joseph Goebbels](https://www.inquirer.com/philly/opinion/20161116_Jones __Bannon_like_another_hateful_propagandist__ Nazis__Joseph_Goebbels.html)** > > WHEN I LEARNED of President-elect Donald Trump's decision to elevate former Breitbart News chairman Steve Bannon to chief strategist, I recalled the haunting words of a Jewish friend whom I've known for more than 20 years. And indeed the similarities are not hard to find, and go beyond just Breitbart, the very incarnation of Goebbels’ dictum that “those who control news policies [must] endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose” and “If you tell the same lie enough times, people will believe it; and the bigger the lie, the better”. Furthermore: “Let the grassroots turn on the hate because that’s the ONLY thing that will make them do their duty.” _– Steve Bannon (in reference to Republican leadership), proving that he is Not At All Like Josef Goebbels_™. [Cite](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/opinion/turn-on-the-hate-steve-bannon-at-the-white-house.html). “Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.” _– Josef Goebbels_ “Fear is a good thing. Fear is going to lead you to take action.” _– Steve Bannon, who is Not At All Like Josef Goebbels_™. [Cite](http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/20161116_Jones __Bannon_like_another_hateful_propagandist__ Nazis__Joseph_Goebbels.html). The masses need something that will give them a thrill of horror. _– Josef Goebbels_ ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/105 "2016-11-18T23:31:59Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Oh, come on, man!” in Obama’s words. What, they’re kidding? They aren’t going to go through with it, just jerking us around? > And then gonna yell “Ha! Psych! We aren’t really going to do that stuff, we’re just going to install the machinery so we _can_! Fooled ya!” > Pull the other one, its got bells. Pull the middle one, I’ll give you a nickel. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Okay, put it this way, they are reaching out, with both hands, to seize power. > They not only show this with their actions, they admit this with their words. > Does fact that they cannot actually finally grasp that power until January give you reason to believe that this will all just be a big psych out by then? I doubt that any right-winger professing to believe that Trump _won’t_ make a grab for power (of the post-democracy variety) is sincere. Don’t they all admire Putin and the Kim Dynasty and similar “strong men”? The name of the game is to mock any suggestions that something untoward might be being planned, until it happens. We will see this again and again and again, not only from Trump surrogates, but from the online army of pro-authoritarian Useful Idiots. It’s foolish to pretend otherwise. As Michael Moore said on the November 11th _All In with Chris Hayes_, about the period beginning at the Inauguration: > [@](#): > > How about the first ten days? Seriously, Capitol Hill is going to look like a Marx Brothers movie where they’re just going to be whipping—_who’s got a bill? I’ve got a bill!_ \ _Who’s got a bill? Another bill!_ \ _All those in favor?_ \ _All those in favor?_ \ You know, this is how it’s going to go; it’s going to go like that. And over to the White House to sign. > > And liberals are going to be like: _whoooooaaaaaaahhh…wait a minute…that’s not fair_ … (Starts at about the 9:50 minute mark in this 12:21-minute segment: [Michael Moore: Get out and protest](http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/michael-moore-get-out-and-protest-807194691516) ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/106 "2016-11-18T23:36:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Appointments are a sincere indication of intention. Many of us suspect, with good reason, the Jeff Sessions does not intend to be a champion of equal rights, especially as regards voting. His installment as AG does kinda suggest to us that those concerns are not his. > > Any of this getting through? I get that you have political disagreements with Trump and probably will dislike and disagree with a lot of his appointments (my side felt the same way about Obama and his cabinet). You think he’s going to roll back some of the “progress” made during Obama’s administration, and in some areas, you’re probably right. The point I’m driving at, I guess, is that I don’t think this is some undue “power grab”. It’s just the President-Elect doing normal President-Elect stuff, like picking a cabinet. None of it seems to me to be improper or unconstitutional, or signal a dictatorship in its infancy. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/107 "2016-11-18T23:37:05Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s foolish to pretend otherwise. As Michael Moore said on the November 11th _All In with Chris Hayes_, about the period beginning at the Inauguration: > > (Starts at about the 9:50 minute mark in this 12:21-minute segment: [Michael Moore: Get out and protest](http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/michael-moore-get-out-and-protest-807194691516) Maybe Harry Reid shouldn’t have gone nuclear on the filibuster? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/108 "2016-11-18T23:43:23Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Maybe Harry Reid shouldn’t have gone nuclear on the filibuster? I realize this is basically a ‘nyah nyah,’ but seriously: the ways Congress has found to try to keep power with one party and shut the other party out, have obvious ‘shot themselves in the foot’ implications. That’s been true of both parties in our two party system (whatever their names happened to be) for many decades. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/109 "2016-11-18T23:53:55Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I get that you have political disagreements with Trump and probably will dislike and disagree with a lot of his appointments (my side felt the same way about Obama and his cabinet). You think he’s going to roll back some of the “progress” made during Obama’s administration, and in some areas, you’re probably right. The point I’m driving at, I guess, is that I don’t think this is some undue “power grab”. It’s just the President-Elect doing normal President-Elect stuff, like picking a cabinet. None of it seems to me to be improper or unconstitutional, or signal a dictatorship in its infancy. I’m a Nixon survivor, been here a while. I’ve seen popular landslides and said, well, shit, that’s it, its the voice of the people loud and clear, by the millions. Do you see any distinction, any at all, between those conditions and these? Take your time. Think it over. ---
**Author:** ![Frankenstein\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@Frankenstein\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frankenstein_Monster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/110 "2016-11-19T00:04:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Lot of us kinda think that a powerful and effective racist Senator is not a good thing. > > Does the fact that he was elected absolve him, in some way? Or does it suggest that the people who elected him share those views? I read the Wikipedia on [Jeff Sessions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions) and there’s no question that his views are absolutely horrible across the board. I’m not sure what we disagree about, if anything. I want to see some context on the guy. Not to absolve him, but to learn something. I also prefer **reasoned criticism** to those unthinking, exaggerated, sky-is-falling rants and repetitive, irrelevant anecdotes. ---
**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/111 "2016-11-19T00:06:48Z")
New Hollywood Reporter interview with Bannon [Steve Bannon Trump Tower Interview: Trump’s Strategist Plots “New Political Movement” – The Hollywood Reporter](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747?utm_source=twitter) He says he’s not a white nationalist, more like an economic nationalist, and would like to tear the current system down. He also pushing a trillion dollar infrastructure plan that he knows the conservatives won’t like. Now, I don’t mind some attention paid to infrastructure, but a trillion seems like a lot of tackle. It’s not clear in the interview, but if Bannon thinks that is what will be all the jobs for the working class, it doesn’t make sense as not everyone is cut out for jobs that have to do with infrastructure. Even FDR’s New Deal work programs didn’t have everyone doing the same thing I have a feeling the Republicans are going to rue feeling so smug about winning the election. I’m sure they thought they could lead Trump around by the nose because of his inexperience and mushy beliefs, but Bannon is going to be a huge thorn in their side as long as Trump keeps him around (and I don’t think Bannon will go quietly) This is a big reason why the Democrats lost the election (and the Republicans are in for an unwelcome surprise). The populist uprisings happening around the world surprised the UK and now they surprised America, and eventually they’ll probably surprise and consume the rest of Europe. The question will be (for America) if it will be able to focus on economics or devolve further into racism and xenophobia ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/112 "2016-11-19T00:15:36Z")
> [@computergeek](#): > > New Hollywood Reporter interview with Bannon [Steve Bannon Trump Tower Interview: Trump's Strategist Plots "New Political Movement"](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747?utm_source=twitter) > > He says he’s not a white nationalist, more like an economic nationalist, and would like to tear the current system down. He also pushing a trillion dollar infrastructure plan that he knows the conservatives won’t like. The thing to keep in mind with a trillion dollar infrastructure plan… There will be a lot of scope (I mean a tremendous amount) for profit to be made by anyone who is a developer with limited ethical constraints who is in a good position in government. Do we know anyone like that? ---
**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/113 "2016-11-19T00:47:09Z")
To be clear since I didn’t say so after posting the article, Bannon scares me. If we thought the Tea Party types were true believers, we hadn’t seen nothing yet. This guy wants to tear things down and he doesn’t seem to care who it hurts. Now, I admit, the people in charge weren’t helping the working class as well as they should have or at least weren’t making clear what they were doing to help, and there has been a lot of gridlock with Congress the last few years, but I tend to prefer a little order over destruction and chaos. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/114 "2016-11-19T00:52:13Z")
> [@computergeek](#): > > Even FDR’s New Deal work programs didn’t have everyone doing the same thing Also, FDR had a brain trust of experts advising him and shaping policy. I’m not sure too many of the people surrounding Trump would qualify. > [@](#): > > I have a feeling the Republicans are going to rue feeling so smug about winning the election. I’m sure they thought they could lead Trump around by the nose because of his inexperience and mushy beliefs, but Bannon is going to be a huge thorn in their side as long as Trump keeps him around (and I don’t think Bannon will go quietly) And it’s not just Bannon, but the influence of Trump’s own family. Apparently, Ivanka sat in on Trump’s meeting with Japanese PM Shinzo Abe. Ivanka’s husband is apparently angling for some unpaid advisor slot in an attempt to get around federal nepotism laws. Reince Prebus and Bannon are going to be the angel and devil on Trump’s shoulders with his children playing the wild card role. Senator Sessions has not been a particularly powerful Senator, even as ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, since he had no actual leadership role as Majority Whip, etc and did not seem to have that much influence there. But it is interesting to note that Sessions opposed the 2009 stimulus bill and the repeal of Don’t ask/don’t tell while supporting a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Looks like he won’t be in the Senate to oppose any $1 trillion Trump stimulus bill. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/115 "2016-11-19T00:52:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The thing to keep in mind with a trillion dollar infrastructure plan… There will be a lot of scope (I mean a tremendous amount) for profit to be made by anyone who is a developer with limited ethical constraints who is in a good position in government. > > Do we know anyone like that? _Seriously._ When I heard that Trump was planning to do a lot of infrastructure updating, I thought, ‘wait, that sounds like an actually good idea!..what gives?’ Then after a moment’s reflection, of course, I realized his motivation. ---
**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/116 "2016-11-19T00:52:15Z")
I also think Bannon is the king and voice behind Trump’s populism stance (as it stands now). If somehow he got pushed out of Trump’s orbit completely, Trump’s populist act would probably completely deflate in the sense Trump wouldn’t know what to do, as I think Bannon is totally pushing him in the directions he (Bannon) wants him (Trump) to go ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/117 "2016-11-19T00:58:55Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > This would actually be encouraging. Romney is the only decent human being I’ve seen in the mix. I know, right. I almost regret voting for Obama in 2012, as I would be sleeping much better tonight if we had instead re-elected Mitt Romney last week. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/118 "2016-11-19T01:05:20Z")
> [@computergeek](#): > > New Hollywood Reporter interview with Bannon [Steve Bannon Trump Tower Interview: Trump's Strategist Plots "New Political Movement"](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747?utm_source=twitter) > > He says he’s not a white nationalist, more like an economic nationalist, and would like to tear the current system down. He also pushing a trillion dollar infrastructure plan that he knows the conservatives won’t like. Now, I don’t mind some attention paid to infrastructure, but a trillion seems like a lot of tackle. It’s not clear in the interview, but if Bannon thinks that is what will be all the jobs for the working class, it doesn’t make sense as not everyone is cut out for jobs that have to do with infrastructure. Even FDR’s New Deal work programs didn’t have everyone doing the same thing > > I have a feeling the Republicans are going to rue feeling so smug about winning the election. I’m sure they thought they could lead Trump around by the nose because of his inexperience and mushy beliefs, but Bannon is going to be a huge thorn in their side as long as Trump keeps him around (and I don’t think Bannon will go quietly) > > This is a big reason why the Democrats lost the election (and the Republicans are in for an unwelcome surprise). The populist uprisings happening around the world surprised the UK and now they surprised America, and eventually they’ll probably surprise and consume the rest of Europe. The question will be (for America) if it will be able to focus on economics or devolve further into racism and xenophobia I’d happily trade a one-time trillion dollar stimulus package for a strict-constructionalist SCOTUS justice. I’ll even do it three or four times over the next eight years, and smile the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/119 "2016-11-19T03:40:13Z")
> [@Frankenstein\_Monster](#): > > …I also prefer **reasoned criticism** to those unthinking, exaggerated, sky-is-falling rants and repetitive, irrelevant anecdotes. Good for you! So few of us here are willing to offer such an open and candid self-assessment. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056/120 "2016-11-19T06:56:09Z")
> [@Frankenstein\_Monster](#): > > Both Trump and Bannon would do well to start cutting back on their “de facto endorsement” of the real Nazis. They should stop doing what earned them one of the biggest upsets in American political history. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-bannon-factor-tells-us-about-trump/772056.md?page=7)