# What the everloving Fuck is going on with racist threads/ thread-titles? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 24, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594 "2020-06-24T01:17:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/42 "2020-06-30T14:48:03Z")
Is using apeshit hyperbole to describe tiny cuts helpful? I would say no, it only invites scorn. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/43 "2020-06-30T14:50:59Z")
So does dismissing valid complaints. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/44 "2020-06-30T14:55:42Z")
The assertion that “ricer” might be offensive to some and we should be sensitive to that, is a valid complaint. Calling it “internet KKK” is not. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/45 "2020-06-30T14:56:04Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Is using apeshit hyperbole to describe tiny cuts helpful? I couldn’t see any apeshit hyperbole from anyone except the OP, with many coming in to agree that it is hyperbole. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/46 "2020-06-30T14:57:06Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I couldn’t see any apeshit hyperbole from anyone except the OP, with many coming in to agree that it is hyperbole. I’m talking about the OP. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/47 "2020-06-30T15:21:21Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > The assertion that “ricer” might be offensive to some and we should be sensitive to that, is a valid complaint. Calling it “internet KKK” is not > [@Ashtura](#): > > I’m talking about the OP OK. It would have been useful if you’d said so. By the time we hit 38 posts, a statement entirely on its own isn’t generally going to be taken as referring only to the first post in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/48 "2020-06-30T15:23:30Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > OK. It would have been useful if you’d said so. By the time we hit 38 posts, a statement entirely on its own isn’t generally going to be taken as referring only to the first post in the thread. I thought my first post implied this, but fair enough. > [@Ashtura](#): > > Yes, using the term “ricer” is definitely on the level with lynching blacks and putting burning crosses on their lawns. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/49 "2020-06-30T15:24:07Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’d like it if it melted the font, causing the words to run down the infinitely long page. maybe put it in Z̴̨̳͉̦͈̥͙̀̀́̇͑͠ẳ̵̛̫̘̺̳͙̳̻̦̙͚̹͓̻̒͌͠͠͝ĺ̶̢͈͚̤̠̟̤͙͎̣͙̥̜͐͗͛͋͗̑͛̈͆͠ģ̸͚̞͛̍̏̉͝o̸̢͙͈̺͒͑͐̓̂̾͋͐̽͋̚ ̵̬̘͖͇͖̱̃͝͝t̸̡̧̡̢̰̗̺͎̞̤̜͈͍͙̲̞͔͗̏͆͒̑̓̑̓͗̄͆̌̈́̚͝e̴̝̯̼͔͈͉͕̲̙̲̜͖̘͂̌̓̈͆̆̽͒̔̏͗̓̌͝͝x̵̢̢̼̹̠̣͙̘͙̱̳̣͎̝́̉̊͋͜t̸̟̣̲͕͚͚͖̊̈́̔̀̀̐̇̌̀̃̉̆̄̆̓̾̾ ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/50 "2020-06-30T15:26:58Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > maybe put it in Z̴̨̳͉̦͈̥͙̀̀́̇͑͠ẳ̵̛̫̘̺̳͙̳̻̦̙͚̹͓̻̒͌͠͠͝ĺ̶̢͈͚̤̠̟̤͙͎̣͙̥̜͐͗͛͋͗̑͛̈͆͠ģ̸͚̞͛̍̏̉͝o̸̢͙͈̺͒͑͐̓̂̾͋͐̽͋̚ ̵̬̘͖͇͖̱̃͝͝t̸̡̧̡̢̰̗̺͎̞̤̜͈͍͙̲̞͔͗̏͆͒̑̓̑̓͗̄͆̌̈́̚͝e̴̝̯̼͔͈͉͕̲̙̲̜͖̘͂̌̓̈͆̆̽͒̔̏͗̓̌͝͝x̵̢̢̼̹̠̣͙̘͙̱̳̣͎̝́̉̊͋͜t̸̟̣̲͕͚͚͖̊̈́̔̀̀̐̇̌̀̃̉̆̄̆̓̾̾ Love it! ❤ ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/51 "2020-06-30T16:38:41Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > “Over the top” is Cartooniverse’s _thing_ . He once started a huge Pit thread where he frothily called actor Colin Farrell a pedophile and rapist ( _literally_ ) because in a movie his character kissed a 16/17 year old. Wait, what? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/52 "2020-06-30T16:43:20Z")
> [@Why hasn't Colin Farell been charged with rape?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861): > > The guy makes a movie. The young girl opposite him ( Playing Pocahontas to his John Smith ) is, according the CNN this morning, age 14 when the film was shot. There are love scenes. Most places, if you put your hands on a girl age 14 no matter WHAT the “excuse”, you’re busted bigtime. Somehow this guy does love scenes, and everyone takes a pass on him? I’m wondering what the difference is between a love scene involving a 14 year old, and Roman Polanski’s 14 year old. ( or 13. Can’t remember whi… CMC ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/53 "2020-06-30T17:53:03Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Um, you did. Your very first post in the thread. You chastised the OP for bringing up the KKK, saying it’s not nice and wouldn’t convince anyone. Learn to read, dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/54 "2020-07-01T22:51:15Z")
Honest to God, until this thread I thought “ricer” was actually “racer” (as in racing car) in a mock-Southern accent. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/55 "2020-07-02T12:16:18Z")
The terms I heard (in high school) for sporty Japanese vehicles were “rice burner” and “rice rocket” which were a little more explicitly derogatory. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/56 "2020-07-02T12:22:12Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > The terms I heard (in high school) for Japanese cars were “rice burner” and “rice rocket” which were a little more explicitly derogatory. Why is that “derogatory”? Because rice is associated with Asian countries where it’s grown? How is that any different from associating American things with hot dogs, apple pie, and Starbucks? ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/57 "2020-07-02T12:28:58Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Why is that “derogatory”? Because rice is associated with Asian countries where it’s grown? How is that any different from associating American things with hot dogs, apple pie, and Starbucks? Hey, have you heard about the new African-American car, the watermelon wagon? To be honest, I didn’t think the terms “rice rocket” and “rice burner” were particularly offensive when I first heard them. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/58 "2020-07-02T12:36:18Z")
I can’t think of a derogatory term that could be used with American food in general because American food is already derogated for its blandness which is different from being blinged-out-with-or-without-improved-functionality. There’s “maize” but if Germans called a tricked-out Ford a “Maizemobile” I’d be more inclined to laugh than to be offended. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/59 "2020-07-02T14:03:54Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > … > To be honest, I didn’t think the terms “rice rocket” and “rice burner” were particularly offensive when I first heard them. As I remember living through it … When the term(s) first came out in the late 60s / early '70s they were explicitly terms of derision coming from folks steeped in US musclehead cars and US HD motorcycles or the equivalent British / European sporty products. Said with dripping sarcasm they referred to inferior cars & motorcycles from an inferior country on an inferior continent full of inferior-race people who relied on inferior food. Har har har. Later, when the superior Japanese cars & motorcycles had destroyed the British motor industries and damn near destroyed the US motor industries, the shoe was rather on the other foot, but the term stuck. And, at least in the mouths of some, began to lose the pejorative tone. In the last ~20 years it’s increasingly unstylish to even make a nod towards ethnicity, nationality, etc. Nicknames in general are out, much less those that can be interpreted to stigmatize. In this era, ricer / rice rocket / etc., are wrong not because of what they mean or meant, but because of what they are: a label selected by one group and applied to another group. Nicknaming yourself is fine; nicknaming others is becoming taboo, regardless of your intent. If you first heard the term from the mid 80s to the late 90s you hit the sweet spot of timing. And depending on where you were living, it may have been more about respect than derision. I happily rode a rice rocket throughout the 1980s, called it that, and laughed at the useless primitive leaky noisy slow junk made in Milwaukee. As did many of my fellow street racers. Times have changed and nobody I know calls their Japanese motorcycle a rice rocket today. Though they still beat the tar out of Milwaukee’s product. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/60 "2020-07-02T16:25:22Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > When the term(s) first came out in the late 60s / early '70s they were explicitly terms of derision coming from folks steeped in US musclehead cars and US HD motorcycles or the equivalent British / European sporty products. > > Said with dripping sarcasm they referred to inferior cars & motorcycles from an inferior country on an inferior continent full of inferior-race people who relied on inferior food. Har har har. Yes, this. I became familiar with “rice rocket” via a big HD fan who resembled R. Lee Ermey. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594/61 "2020-07-02T19:49:30Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > In this era, ricer / rice rocket / etc., are wrong not because of what they mean or meant, but because of what they are: a label selected by one group and applied to another group. Nicknaming yourself is fine; nicknaming others is becoming taboo, regardless of your intent. So we should use one of these terms? > **[What is bosozoku? - Bosozoku Style](https://www.bosozokustyle.com/what-is-bosozoku/)** > > As Wikipeda describes the word Bosozoku: B?s?zoku (???, “violent running gang”) is a Japanese subculture associated with motorcycle clubs and gangs. So, Bosozoku style cars should best be described as the cars driven by the Japanese gangs. This is... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-everloving-fuck-is-going-on-with-racist-threads-thread-titles/912594.md?page=4)