# What The Frak? BSG Season 4 to start in April?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 26, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152 "2007-10-26T19:46:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/1 "2007-10-26T19:46:42Z")
[Frakking story.](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/10/battlestar-gala.html#more) Article contains mild spoilers. Quoth the LA Times… > [@LA Times](#): > > The final 20-episode run will kick off in — you read it here first — early April. I was looking forward to discussing Razor here on the Dope, and gearing up for the next season as it starts in January, but this is a little crazy. _April?_ What could the hold up possibly be? Well, just thought I’d share. I’ll have nasty things to say later, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/2 "2007-10-26T20:24:02Z")
Are you going to see Razor in a movie theatre? ---
**Author:** ![dmatsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@dmatsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dmatsch)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/3 "2007-10-26T20:31:00Z")
[QUOTE=AndyPolley] I was looking forward to discussing Razor here on the Dope, and gearing up for the next season as it starts in January, but this is a little crazy. _April?_ What could the hold up possibly be? [/QUOTE] I am totally with you. While the series has slipped a bit in the last season (Adama and Roslyn?? Come on… ) I was looking forward to seeing the last season in a timely manner. However the Scifi execs with their Infinite Improbability Wisdom Generator ™ – the same IIWG that brought you Sci-Fi wrestling – decides not to air the highest rated sci fi series in the history of the channel AT ALL this year and 1/2 of next! The same thing that happened to Firefly is going to happen to BG. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/4 "2007-10-26T22:40:20Z")
[QUOTE=dmatsch] I(Adama and Roslyn?? Come on… ) Oh, you could tell that was coming from the very beginning, when they were enemies. The chemistry is there and they’d be stupid not to use it. Personally, I like it. I think they’re hot together. Way more interesting than Starbuck/Apollo. I’m excited about Razor, aggravated about waiting until April for the season. What’s this about possibly stringing out the season over 2008-2009? That would be… annoying as hell. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/5 "2007-10-26T22:46:53Z")
If ever I meet Moore again, I might have to hurt him. A lot. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/6 "2007-10-27T00:30:40Z")
[QUOTE=dmatsch] …The same thing that happened to Firefly is going to happen to BG. [/QUOTE] Ron Moore & co already decided that season 4 would be the last before they even started production. BSG has had a good run and it’s time for it to conclude. I think the quality will improve (or stop getting worse) now that they don’t need to keep making stand-alone episodes to attrack new viewers and can concentrate on their arc. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/7 "2007-10-27T00:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] If ever I meet Moore again, I might have to hurt him. [/QUOTE] That would be exceptionally foolish of you. Moore has nothing to do with BSG’s airing schedule. That’s all Sciffy’s work. In fact, Moore and quite a few of the cast have been bitterly complaining about Sciffy’s recent whacko schedule proposals – such as splitting season 4 into two half-seasons – to be aired one year apart. From what I’ve seen, they’ve basically thrown up their hands in despair of Sciffy actually choosing an intelligent schedule that would benefit the show and fans… and have all moved on to focus on new projects. But, please, by all means go hurt the Sci-Fi execs. A lot. They deserve it for any number of reasons, BSG not the least (by _far_ not the least). Personally, the too-long delay between seasons has combined with the lackluster season-3 to make me rather unexcited about BSG coming back. Yeah, I’ll watch it when it comes back on. But I haven’t been motivated one whit to watch their annoying Razor preview clips during their crappy Flash Gordon show, nor even to download them from YouTube. Now that Doctor Who isn’t airing, I don’t even watch Sci-Fi anymore – and I suspect that Sciffy’s crafty schedule plans to string along BSG fans is going to backfire for 'em with more than just me. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/8 "2007-10-27T00:53:14Z")
[QUOTE=dmatsch] The same thing that happened to Firefly is going to happen to BG. [/QUOTE] A crazy Fox executive is going to travel back in time, get a job at Sci-Fi and cancel BSG after 9 episodes? And he’d force them to air the miniseries last. Come on, that makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/9 "2007-10-27T01:12:39Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] A crazy Fox executive is going to travel back in time, get a job at Sci-Fi and cancel BSG after 9 episodes? And he’d force them to air the miniseries last. Come on, that makes no sense. [/QUOTE] Makes _no_ sense, or makes _too much_ sense? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/10 "2007-10-27T01:42:23Z")
**Lightray** , thank you for the new information. If I ever meet anybody in a position of power at the SciFi Channel again, I will hurt them. A lot. (Unless it is the nice guy who was greenlighting _Eureka_. Him I’ll let go.) ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/11 "2007-10-27T12:16:47Z")
> [@dmatsch](#): > > However the Scifi execs with their Infinite Improbability Wisdom Generator ™ – the same IIWG that brought you Sci-Fi wrestling – decides not to air the highest rated sci fi series in the history of the channel AT ALL this year and 1/2 of next! It’s this kind of thinking that convinced Moore & co. to wrap it up in the fourth season. He didn’t want to be struggling to still be on the air for a fifth. Does the SciFi channel have NO budget at all? Splitting the season makes less sense than greenlighting 2 13 episode seasons, which is waht the producers were looking for. [QUOTE=Zebra] Are you going to see Razor in a movie theatre? [/QUOTE] Actually…yes. The wife signed us up last night for a showing in NYC, so I’ll be able to catch Razor early, and then wait that much longer for season 4 to begin. Also, just picked up my season 3 soudtrack, because it’s good. I’d do the same if the dvds were available…but they won’t be until April. Who’s fault is that? ---
**Author:** ![dmatsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@dmatsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dmatsch)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/12 "2007-10-27T14:09:10Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] A crazy Fox executive is going to travel back in time, get a job at Sci-Fi and cancel BSG after 9 episodes? And he’d force them to air the miniseries last. Come on, that makes no sense. [/QUOTE] No. The execs at sci fi are going down the same scheduling path that caused the cancellation of Firefly. Airing episodes out of order, scheduling episodes opposite programs they know to be more popular, pre-empting episodes, etc. That alone lead to the cancellation of the series. Try not to be so snarky until you have the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/13 "2007-10-27T14:26:43Z")
[QUOTE=dmatsch] No. The execs at sci fi are going down the same scheduling path that caused the cancellation of Firefly. Airing episodes out of order, scheduling episodes opposite programs they know to be more popular, pre-empting episodes, etc. That alone lead to the cancellation of the series. Try not to be so snarky until you have the facts. [/QUOTE] While, I’m sure those things have happened, BSG has a successful miniseries and three seasons under it’s belt, with a TV movie and a 4th season on the way. On the other hand, Fox refused to show Firefly’s pilot and forced the creators to make a new one at the last minute. They also ran it on Friday nights, a very poor timeslot for a Fox show. While BSG also originally ran on Fridays, that is a strong night for Sci-Fi’s original porgramming. The two situations are not comparable. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/14 "2007-10-27T17:11:42Z")
Skiffy has a long frelling history of frakking around with their _good_ shows, they did it with **MST3K** after they purchased that show from Comedy Central, they did it with **Farscape** , and now they’re doing it to **Who** and **Battlestar** and what do they put on in it’s place, Flash Gordon, a show that’s so ineptly bad that it _needs_ the MST3K/Rifftrax treatment to even elevate itself to “borderline watchable”, “ghost-hunting” reality shows, and frakkin’ _wrestling_, i mean yes, wrestling is _clearly_ fiction, but where’s the _science_… does skiffy even know or care what their fanbase is? do they even care that their frakking around with scheduling, putting on sub-B-grade “Sci-Fi original” movies (that are clearly _begging_ to be MST’ed) and frelling wrestling is _losing_ them viewers? it’s the Bonnie Hammer thing all over again, once BSG is over, skiffy won’t have any shows worth watching ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/15 "2007-10-27T18:18:23Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] Are you going to see Razor in a movie theatre? [/QUOTE] Me too. And _Flash Gordon_ is so incredibly bad, it’s painful even to watch it on super fast forward looking for the Razor flashback. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/16 "2007-10-27T20:31:41Z")
[QUOTE=dmatsch] No. The execs at sci fi are going down the same scheduling path that caused the cancellation of Firefly. Airing episodes out of order, scheduling episodes opposite programs they know to be more popular, pre-empting episodes, etc. That alone lead to the cancellation of the series. Try not to be so snarky until you have the facts. [/QUOTE] SciFi has yet to air a single first-run BSG episode out of order. Besides BSG is _already ending it’s run_. Most (if not all) episodes will be in the can by the time season 4 starts so there’s very little chance of it being cancelled mid-season (even SciFi isn’t that dumb). ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/17 "2007-10-27T21:10:32Z")
I was pissed they cancelled _Dresden Files_, and pissed they seemingly replaced it with _Painkiller Jane_ and gave it a whole season but then I got into PKJ, and now I’m pissed the canceled that too. And what do we get, _Flash Gordon_ which makes _Lexx_ seem high-brow. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/18 "2007-10-27T21:20:20Z")
I thought I saw an ad for BSG beginning in November. Is that some ruse to get me to watch Flash Gordon? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/19 "2007-10-27T21:32:06Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] SciFi has yet to air a single first-run BSG episode out of order. Besides BSG is _already ending it’s run_. Most (if not all) episodes will be in the can by the time season 4 starts so there’s very little chance of it being cancelled mid-season (even SciFi isn’t that dumb). [/QUOTE] Actually, I thought I’d read that all of the episodes have been filmed, and there’s only production work – sfx and the like – to be completed. But you do, indeed, have all the facts. So apparently you have the permission of **dmatsch** to be snarky. You must feel so honored. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-frak-bsg-season-4-to-start-in-april/424152/20 "2007-10-27T21:42:39Z")
[Reads article.] Oh yes, I’d forgotten about four of the Good Guys being Cylons. I may yet melt down all those DVDs I recorded and call for a landing party to crucify Moore upside down so we can pour the molten goop into his nose. Stay tuned. 🙂