# What the fu\[del\]c\[/del\]dge is up with Mormons and gay marriage? (amazingly short) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 22, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938 "2009-04-22T02:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/81 "2009-04-24T14:53:58Z")
The story I heard, from 2 practicing Mormons on different occasions, regarding monetary support for Prop 8 is…interesting. They claimed that the church itself did not encourage/instruct the faithful to send money to support Prop 8. In fact, they both claimed that the church disapproves of making any sort of political recommendations from the pulpit. Rather, it merely encourages members to take political action that is in accordance with their faith and it is no surprise that many chose to support Prop 8. They also both claimed that the LDS church gives money to certain Catholic charitable groups that help the poor and what-have-you, in regions where the LDS is not particularly prevalent. In this way, they do the most good, by not duplicating effort, much like Warren Buffet giving money to Bill Gate’s charity. Some of these Catholic groups are in California and they spent money on Prop 8 support, without the explicit approval of the Mormons. I have no idea of the veracity of these claims, the first seems plausible, the second seems like blame-shifting after they saw just how many people were pissed off. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/82 "2009-04-24T14:58:09Z")
Hell is endless reruns of Lawrence Welk. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/83 "2009-04-24T15:08:22Z")
> [@SpazCat](#): > > Hell is endless reruns of Lawrence Welk. No, Hell is endless reruns of Lawrence Welk presenting One Toke Over The Line… ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/84 "2009-04-24T15:15:39Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > No, Hell is endless reruns of Lawrence Welk presenting One Toke Over The Line… HAH! [The guys that wrote the song.](http://www.brewerandshipley.com/Misc/OneToke.htm) and the story behind [it](http://www.brewerandshipley.com/Misc/OneToke_Writing.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/85 "2009-04-24T17:52:30Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > Humm? Masonry has nothing to do with Moronism. Masonry takes no position on Gay people. It’s a reference to the fact that many of the Mormon’s “divinely revealed” temple rituals are pretty much cut and pasted from Masonic rituals. (Smith was a Mason and, as with the [Book of Mormon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Book_of_Mormon) itself, some of his revelations about rituals would have seemed plagiarized if you didn’t just know he was getting them off the divine teletype.) [QUOTE=jayjay] No, Hell is endless reruns of Lawrence Welk presenting One Toke Over The Line… [/QUOTE] Damn… heretofore I thought the [Stepford kids doing the Chicken Dance](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UV3kRV46Zs) was the most disturbing Welk clip on YouTube. I wonder what followed _One Toke_. > [@](#): > > Lawrence Welk: “…a medley from a Catholic youth group honoring the legacy of John and Bobby Kennedy, _Holiday in Cambodia_ and _Too Drunk to Fuck_… a 1 and a 2…” ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/86 "2009-04-24T20:39:36Z")
**Sampiro** , that was funny. Now Lawrence Welk and the Dead Kennedys are going to be linked in my mind. I don’t know whether to thank you or damn you. ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Cream\_Conquest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Ice\_Cream\_Conquest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Cream_Conquest)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/87 "2009-04-25T14:21:10Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > > [@Anne Neville](#): > > > > I think at least some Mormons are trying to convince the religious right types that “we’re really just like you”. One way to do that is to join the fight against a group that the religious right doesn’t like. > > I don’t think so. I think the Mormons independently just don’t like gays. I’m going to have to second Captain Amazing here. Having been a Mormon my entire life, I have to say that “Defending moral values” trumps “Sucking up to other Christian faiths” by a LARGE margin. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/88 "2009-04-27T07:25:41Z")
> [@Ice\_Cream\_Conquest](#): > > I’m going to have to second Captain Amazing here. Having been a Mormon my entire life, I have to say that “Defending moral values” trumps “Sucking up to other Christian faiths” by a LARGE margin. That’s one virtue that must be admitted; looking at LDS history they aren’t terribly concerned with fitting in, at least not theologically. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/89 "2009-05-02T03:42:07Z")
Thanks \*\* Mtgman\*\*, I still have that damn song in my head. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938/90 "2009-05-02T05:56:03Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Naw, the LDS has the sacred underpants. That’s the deal maker for me. What’s up with that stupid underwear nonsense anyway? I think their entire “system of faith” is crazier than a shit house mouse anyway. Screw their 3 levels of heaven, I want to know about the secret cow level. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fu-del-c-del-dge-is-up-with-mormons-and-gay-marriage-amazingly-short/493938.md?page=4)