What. The. Fuck?????? Boris Johnson is mayor of London????

Oh, a joke. Ha, ha! I get it.

I get jokes.

:rolleyes:

Unfortunately as several of the main parties in the UK have been found guilty of, or are currently being investigated for, vote rigging (including London boroughs) its not particularly funny.

I am very pro Boris. So it illustrates my point :wink:

I can’t see the bigotry there at all, honestly.

P.S. Have you inspected the reporter’s penis yourself, or are you taking his word for it?

That’s OK - I’m sure Ken could.

You really have no idea what you’re talking about, do you?

The fact that he called himself Jewish is proof enough.

The electorate tend to treat local elections as referenda on the national government. and currently not even lifelong Labour voters like me can bring themselves to vote for this mendacious and clapped-out administration.

Not really… I don’t trust journalists at all.

The holocaust is probably long enough ago now that we can use caricatures of Nazi guards without it being bigoted. It may be different in Israel?

And politicians, you *do * trust?

It’s different for Jews, everywhere. As well it should be.

Tell me - would you call a black person a slave trader?

Isn’t Finegold a stereotypical Jewish name, anyway?

Even if the reporter wasn’t Jewish, Livingstone kept pressing with his bizarre characterisation after he was informed, by the reporter, that he was Jewish. Even if you don’t believe the reporter, you must either believe that in a split second Livingstone decided Finegold was lying, and pressed ahead anyway, or that Livingstone is a moron.

Given his other gaffes, I’m inclined to believe the latter.

The gnashing of teeth over Livingstone’s defeat is pretty amusing, to be honest. Livingstone was a man who used his position as mayor of a city to be as impolitic and generally as embarrassing to the nation as he possibly could. If he wasn’t courting controversy by cozying up with Muslim fundamentalists, or declaring that Indian-born business men should go “back to Iran”, he was engaging in cronyism and corruption.

shhh :stuck_out_tongue:

If he was acting in a way that could be caricatured as one - although I’m not sure how that would be, frankly!

I might call a rape victim a pervert. That’s not a very good example, but it’s the only plausible analogy I can think of.

Well if your so intelligent, how about the one in the prior post? Surely that impressive title that appears under your moniker doesn’t reside on a hide next to your law school diploma?

You know, someone I respected once imparted a little gem of wisdom to me.
“Don’t start none, and there won’t be none”
Please don’t think I’m attempting to “start some” but I guess you just didn’t get the gist of my initial post. And while you and, well, I don’t doubt for a moment, that some others might consider me an idiot, the fact remains that perhaps you might have grown a might large for your dungarees especially when consorting with some of us “regular folks” on this fine internet message board, which I know for a fact, I spent more than yourself for the privilege of gleaning whatever tidbits of knowledge that I might not otherwise happen upon. More importantly to me, and some other “jokesters”, if you will the opportunity to enliven ones day with a bit of light comedy, as long as we do so within the boundary’s of normal decency. In closing I would like to state that I do, in fact, respect your position as a lawyer and as a member of the board of the Dope, but I do think you are a might “stuffy” for my tastes in the area of run of the mill conversation. I do hope I haven’t offended you too much, I believe that you can see even in my capacity as an “idiot” I do attempt to be somewhat polite, just as my beloved mother has taught me to do.

Since many blacks were sold into slavery by blacks, I wouldn’t see a problem with it, if the context was correct.

I know next to nothing of politics in London. But based on the Transcript given, what I think happened was the gentleman in question, Boris, regards the newpaper the reporter works for as “Nazi-like” in some regards. He viewed the behavior of the reporter, who works for the paper, as being akin to a Prison Camp guard, ie: someone who does the dirty work for the Party.

That being said, it does seem like the reporter played the Jewish card in an attempt to spin it, for whatever reason.

Mods on this very board have been called “Nazi-like”, but I don’t think the active Jews on the board have gotten super offended by it.

Of course, I could quite possibly be a giant idiot. It has happened before. :smiley:

I certainly appreciate your politeness, even though I would humbly suggest that this is not a forum that is particularly intended for polite discourse – but, hey, more’s the merrier as far as politeness goes.

My comment above (“I get jokes”) was meant more in sarcasm, as indicated by the rolleyes smiley that accompanied it. (Another clue was the words themselves are a quote from notable fictional doofus Homer Simpson).

In my view, there’s very little about that original post that a neutral reader could use as clues to determine it was a joke, especially a neutral reader aware of the many times that same general accusation of election fraud is made here in seriousness.

The gentleman in question was actually Ken, who, or so it is reported, was a little tired and emotional that evening.

Yes, I find it completely disgusting that one political party would have a confirmed policy of disenfranchising voters, based on their jobs and presumed political bias. And no one but a few malcontents seems to give a shit at this late date.

BTW, that party was the Democratic Pary. When the whole legal theory behind the recount, and the whole hanging chad nonsense was to try to count votes for Gore that were improperly filled out, it was, and remains, galling to have these same people insisting on letter perfect compliance with minutia, often outside the control of the voters who were being disenfranchised, for military voters. I agree, completely, that it leaves a stink.

This is by no means an endorsement of the Republican Party. I’ve never stopped voting for Democratic Party candidates when I felt they were the best candidate in a given race. And I’m hoping to have the chance to vote for Obama for president this fall. But, I still have no more trust, nor liking, for the Democratic Party than I do for the Republican Party, and I find the meme that one party, or the other, is automatically on the side of the angels to be annoying in the extreme, and even disgusting.

And once again a fine shouty UK politics thread degenerates into people wanking on about the US elections…

Hear hear. I was actually pleased to see people arguing about non-American politics for once, and people have somehow managed to make it about the freaking elections anyway. Aren’t the eight million other threads about the election enough?

Jesus fucking christ.

ETA: They’re both assholes, AFAICT. But does it even matter? I am under the impression that the mayor of London doesn’t actually have much power.

Completely agree.

The position has more power than you’d think - see the website. Main areas he can set budget for and influence are police, transport, fire brigade and development (including veto power over council planning).

The government passed an Act in 2007 to give the Mayor and GLA more powers, which took full effect in April 2008. Interestingly two of the amendments the government ruled out in the Act were limiting the Mayor to two terms in office and restricting the Mayor’s power. It is ironic that the benefit of the second change is going to be felt by an opposition politician.

Well see, I wasn’t joking about the common ground as the quote I referenced to you was gleaned from the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien. I wasn’t sure if you’d get it as it’s pretty obscure, about Sir Gawain, a knight. I know that what you do is more on the educational side of things whereas what I do runs more towards the manual side of things and I totally respect the law and all but I think you and I both know sometimes persons who might be inclined to run afoul of the law, really just need a little more in the way of a “motivational consultation” if you will, by their fellow citizens, to make sure they don’t allow themselves to stray over that line. Overmore, I hope you can see I was trying to gain a little comradary with you, even if in a remote sense, with the knight reference. What with you basically insuring that the average citizen doesn’t have their rights violated, be it towards one side or the other, on a daily basis. I don’t have the honor of having such a noble profession but I do like to think I do my little part in making sure that society doesn’t descend into total chaos, however small that part might be. It was a pleasure to speak to you about this and with that I’ll end this annoying, small as it may be, hijack.