Inviting them to the next Dope-A-Ween to play TruDare with us?
Bolding mine.
SnoopyFan, do I sense hypocrisy here? First you tell Avalonian to go to one of these, so she’ll at least know what she’s talking about. You imply that the one run by your church is different, and then you say you haven’t been to it!
What’s that about?
I’m not the one complaining about Hell Houses, am I norinew? All I was saying is that if Avalonian is gonna complain about them, he should go and experience it firsthand so he’ll have more of a basis for his objections. (It’s sort of like how people are screaming about Mel Gibson’s “Passion” movie without having seen it.) If you don’t fully understand what you’re against, how can you have anything more than a half-baked opinion? Avalonian seems to understand my reasoning.
Now this doesn’t work with everything, of course. I’m opposed to, say, abortion, but I don’t think I need to go out and have one done so I can know what I’m talking about. Same with drugs, drunk driving, etc. But with things like contoversial books/movies, etc., I like to watch/read first before I start protesting.
I haven’t gone yet because it is too darn hard to get in, and I don’t have the time to wait around the church till midnight or so before they can squeeze me in (only a certain # of people go through all at once, and they encourage having an appointment). I’m in school full time and I just can’t stay up all hours like I used to.
SnoopyFan, no, you’re not the one complaining about them. But if you can’t understand complaining about it until you’ve seen it, how can you justify defending it before you’ve seen it? I mean, you’re saying “the one at my church isn’t like that”, when you haven’t been through it. It just seems a little contradictory to me, that’s all.
I hear ya! I’m not as young as I used to be, either; and I’m gettin’ older every day!
I think you missed a step. Why do you show us that your out-dated theology is right in the first place, then I’d be willing to listen you.
Geez, get over it. I’m sure a lot of fundies believe atheists are fucking up Christmas.
Awesome!
From the site:
I can just imagine what their marketing department can do with figures like these:
… For only $78.25, our “Jewish Doctors Performing Late Term Abortions on Teenage Girls” add-on kit is gauranteed to save, on average, an additional 3.6 souls/hr! …
… For large congregations seeking to maximize the numbers of souls saved, we’re proud to anounce a Judgement House ™ add-on kit exclusive: The Homosexual Recruitement Camp. For only $478.00, the sinning masses you welcome into your hallowed halls will be able to view leather-clad homos “initiating” 7-year old victims! They’ll watch in horror as former President Bill Clinton hands out purple teletubbie ™ dolls to the new converts! Increase your salvation rate by 8.6 souls/hr (9.6 souls/hr if the child actors are cute and white!)…
Oooooohhh…
<---- jealous as HELL!
Yeah, I’m straight, too.
Waste, eh?
C’mon. Pickled pigs feet.
And I sucked face with Matt_mcl on the NY subway, too.
I wonder how long it’s going to be before the gay posters on the SDMB start complaining about us breeders monopolizing all the best homos?
Hey Midnight Rodeo #1 tell me your name doesn’t derive from the dance place in Tulsa, pls??
#2 I’ve been to the GUTS church one, too. It was incredibly deceptive, but what was hilarious was our church (presby) brought a youth group out there to show how temperate our church was…scared me straight.
Also, I heard recently in Tulsa on business that many churches are against trick or treating and Halloween. I meant I’ve heard a bit about this before, but up there it’s a freakin issue. The objection has to do with the satanic and pagan origins. What’s fun is to ask the folks who are against it if they have a Christmas tree or paint eggs on Easter…hee most of those folks don’t realize the origins of those customs!
A clarfication:
Yes, I was topless, but I’m fairly certain I would have remembered if JC had "had " me at his house.
“had” you as his guest!
Umm… how is the bolded one scary? What, do they have fangs? Are the decorations too fabulous? Is one of them wearing a bright green dress and veil? I MUST KNOW! What is so scary about a wedding? Or is Jesus in the rafters going “tut tut tut”?
Yeah, I guess you’re right. Hadn’t
thought about those. I had a friend in college who used to eat them all the time.
He once dropped a glass jar of them on my dorm room floor and it shattered.
Nasty.
My username is MidnightRadio, not Midnight Rodeo.
“Midnight Radio” is a song from the rock musical
[*Hed
wig and the Angry Inch*](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000HZFP/qid=10
67937708/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0527147-8168721?v=glance&s=music). I’d totally forgotten about the Midnight Rodeo
here in Tulsa. I’ve had several people think I said, “Midnight Rodeo,” when I give
them my email address and I never understood why. Now I do.
As for the anti-Halloween movement being more pronounced in Tulsa than
elsewhere, I can’t really say. I don’t go to church anymore and I don’t associate
much with people who are that whacko. But the church I grew up attending,
although Southern Baptist, was never all that fundie anyway, so I doubt that I’d
hear much of the Halloween-is-evil crap even if I were still attending. But I
imagine there are more churches in Tulsa than in, say, San Francisco or New York
City, having
"[truth-or-treat](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=25478
54#post2547854)" events.
And you hit the nail on the head about Halloween being no more pagan than a
Christmas tree or a colored Easter egg. There was a
[thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1415
- here last year that addressed this. Also, around the same time,
Salon had an
[articl
e](http://salon.com/books/feature/2002/10/28/halloween/index.html) about the history of Halloween in which it explained that Halloween is
actually less pagan than Christmas trees and colored eggs because it really has
nothing at all to do with Samhain as has often been believed. It’s a purely
American invention, like Thanksgiving or Mother’s Day.
I’d also like to echo something Avalonian said earlier. The trick (no pun
intended) to being saved is accepting Christ’s gift of salvation, which was given in
pure love. If people at these “hell houses” are being converted/saved not out of
love for Christ and gratitude for his gift of salvation, but out of fear because they
don’t want to go to hell, I have to wonder, theologically speaking, how valid those
conversions are.
What the hell happened to my post!? I’ve never seen that happen before.
Guess the treats you were giving weren’t good enough, so someone ‘tricked’ you.