# What the fuck is wrong with Huey Freeman?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 8, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427 "2019-01-08T20:43:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/381 "2019-01-21T11:31:55Z")

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> [@coffeecat](#):
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> **Huey Freeman** is a black dumbass. The world is full of black dumbasses, white dumbasses, dumbasses of every race, religion, color, sex, national origin, age, state of physical or mental health, sexual preference, gender identity, marital status, citizenship status, hair color, eye color, sock color, and styling of pubic hair. That’s called equality.
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> I will probably continue to have little power. I will continue to define racism as prejudice against those of a certain race, continue to treat people like people, continue to think Louis Farrakhan is an enormous dildo and Harriet Tubman was a superhuman badass. The worst thing a hater can do isn’t to hate us, but to implant hatred for them in our heart.
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> There was a storm here last night, and the dark trees are standing amidst the white snow. I am drinking black coffee out of a white cup, because I’m out of milk. Evil continues to be stupid, ugly, and boring, and the world is still the same.

An utterly stupid post that in no way addresses the substance of what you responded to.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/382 "2019-01-21T12:35:33Z")

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> [@Elmore](#):
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> Lol agreed. A typical Huey thread is like
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> Huey: I’m a victim everything is racist I’m a victim I’m a victim I’m a victim you’re all bad people I’m a victim I’m a victim fuck the Jews I’m a victim I’m victim I’m a victim I’m a…
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> Everyone else: Wait, what was that fuck the Jews thing you just…
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> Huey: Look at these vultures ignoring my point!
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> (Repeat for 1000 years)

Great…now I have “Everything is racist!” to the tune of “Everything is Awesome” stuck in my head.

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Thots?

And prayers.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/383 "2019-01-21T12:39:09Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Great…now I have “Everything is racist!” to the tune of “Everything is Awesome” stuck in my head.
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> And prayers.

“Thots and players”.

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**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/384 "2019-01-21T12:55:07Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Great…now I have “Everything is racist!” to the tune of “Everything is Awesome” stuck in my head.

Well, if it makes you feel better now I do too 🙂

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/385 "2019-01-21T13:29:34Z")

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> [@Martin Luther King](#):
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> Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline.

QFT

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/386 "2019-01-21T13:55:19Z")

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> [@WernhamHogg](#):
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> QFT

> [@MLK](#):
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> First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”

Quoting a single line from MLK to try to show up a black radical is a shitty use of the man’s legacy. It’s not quite Mike Pence “MLK would support a border wall” level of shitty, but it’s still pretty shitty.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/387 "2019-01-21T14:22:48Z")

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Huey attacks people’s (non-white) wives and children on a message board. If you think that’s not exactly the kind of bitterness King was talking about, please tell me what he was talking about.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/388 "2019-01-21T14:26:38Z")

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> [@WernhamHogg](#):
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> Huey attacks people’s (non-white) wives and children on a message board. If you think that’s not exactly the kind of bitterness King was talking about, please tell me what he was talking about.

Oh, I think his nasty comments about folks’ families are bullshit. But MLK isn’t a finger to wag at black people.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/389 "2019-01-21T14:34:11Z")

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“Finger wag” is more your thing. I was using words of wisdom to make somebody think, which MLK did himself.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/390 "2019-01-21T14:35:29Z")

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> [@WernhamHogg](#):
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> “Finger wag” is more your thing. I was using words of wisdom to make somebody think, which MLK did himself.

Yeah… It’s still not a good look.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/391 "2019-01-21T14:49:02Z")

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I was not trying to make a cheap shot. I thought it was smart and applied, articulated something I had wanted to say but was succinct and clear and coming from someone we all respect. I’ll try to live up to it instead of continuing this pissing contest. Have a good day.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/392 "2019-01-21T16:39:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.

-Booker T Washington, a guy who was a former slave, what a very prescient quote, given the time period, perfectly applies to good Ol’ Huey 🙂 The only shame is he isn’t making any money from it, just Doritos-stained fingers.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/393 "2019-01-21T18:02:09Z")

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Booker T Washington hasn’t aged well, has he? I was reading a book recently about reform schools for black youth that he started (I can’t remember how heavy a hand he had in them), but the mission of the schools felt very paternalistic, something white people would have come up with. As with King, it was a matter of tailoring his words and actions to appeal to white progressives I guess.

I am sorry I quoted King here; it seemed like a good idea at the time.

I have been trying the right way to express my concern about Huey’s rhetoric without sounding like I’m someone with an “All Lives Matter” bumper sticker and felt that echoed my thoughts nicely. It went over like a lead balloon.

I do wish this wasn’t the pit because it doesn’t require anyone to be reasonable and leads people to think that all discussion is poo-flinging.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/394 "2019-01-21T18:09:39Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Oh, I think his nasty comments about folks’ families are bullshit. But MLK isn’t a finger to wag at black people.

The double-standards are strong in this one!

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/395 "2019-01-21T18:33:37Z")

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If you wouln’t quote Dr. King to a white guy, don’t quote him to a black guy.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/396 "2019-01-21T19:15:37Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> If you wouln’t quote Dr. King to a white guy, don’t quote him to a black guy.

Or use whatever quote is appropriate for the situation regardless of skin color, gender, or if one is a furry.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/397 "2019-01-21T19:28:09Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The double-standards are strong in this one!

Scene: Doc Octopus’s office.

Doc Oc: I’m afraid to tell you that you have cancer. ChemTex has been leaking carcinogens into your well water for the past fifty years.  
Patient: Oh my god! Will you operate?  
Doc Oc: Unfortunately, we don’t have the funds to perform surgery on everyone on earth.  
Patient: But not everyone has cancer.  
Doc Oc: So you think that you should get an operation, but other people shouldn’t? I’m sorry, but I believe in treating everyone the same. It’s too bad that you want me to have a double standard.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/398 "2019-01-21T19:32:45Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Scene: Doc Octopus’s office.
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> Doc Oc: I’m afraid to tell you that you have cancer. ChemTex has been leaking carcinogens into your well water for the past fifty years.  
> Patient: Oh my god! Will you operate?  
> Doc Oc: Unfortunately, we don’t have the funds to perform surgery on everyone on earth.  
> Patient: But not everyone has cancer.  
> Doc Oc: So you think that you should get an operation, but other people shouldn’t? I’m sorry, but I believe in treating everyone the same. It’s too bad that you want me to have a double standard.

Do you honestly think that race, gender, w/e classification is a better variable than socio-economic class to use for preferential treatment?

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/399 "2019-01-21T19:40:03Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Do you honestly think that race, gender, w/e classification is a better variable than socio-economic class to use for preferential treatment?

I think the question is predicated on the incorrect assumption that we can only use one. We are better acknowledging complexity than being reductivist.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/400 "2019-01-21T19:51:58Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I think the question is predicated on the incorrect assumption that we can only use one. We are better acknowledging complexity than being reductivist.

I think the real issue is that having quantifiable metrics takes away many tools that the Democrats use to exploit the populace. Furthermore, treating people as equals and holding people to same standards neuters the Dems ability to use language as a bludgeon.

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