# What the fuck is wrong with Huey Freeman? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 8, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427 "2019-01-08T20:43:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/421 "2019-01-22T20:21:00Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You realize that many who are fervent advocates and followers of an ideology or a religion are led by those who use that particular belief system as a tool to manipulate? I realize you think that. “Many” is ill-defined, and your evidence is sparse. I tend to think that most leaders believe the core beliefs they espouse, and the true con artists are relatively rare. > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t be so worried about modern liberalism if one of their tenets wasn’t the worship of a supreme state. Let me set your mind at ease, then! That’s a ridiculous fuckin belief about modern liberalism. ---
**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/422 "2019-01-22T21:37:32Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s not your idea of protesting, but protesting can come in many forms. It can be holding hands with white people and walking through the streets, or it running around the streets and throwing rocks. Or it can be neither of those things. Maybe it’s refusing to be friendly to white people until they can demonstrate a commitment to building a society that is more equitable. Cunting around on a message board like you and Huey do is absolutely no-one’s idea of protest. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/423 "2019-01-22T22:06:36Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You realize that many who are fervent advocates and followers of an ideology or a religion are led by those who use that particular belief system as a tool to manipulate? I wouldn’t be so worried about modern liberalism if one of their tenets wasn’t the worship of a supreme state. What I realize is that your views on liberalism are as accurate as asahi’s views on conservatism. And your views on race are pretty much the equivalent of Huey’s. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/424 "2019-01-22T22:13:22Z")
[quote=“asahi, post:413, topic:827427”] It’s not your idea of protesting, but protesting can come in many forms. It can be holding hands with white people and walking through the streets, or it running around the streets and throwing rocks./QUOTE] Throwing rocks isn’t protest – it’s assault. You know it’s not simply a choice between between “kumbaya” and “burn baby burn!”. Ever heard of that “excluded middle”? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/425 "2019-01-22T22:15:28Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You realize that many who are fervent advocates and followers of an ideology or a religion are led by those who use that particular belief system as a tool to manipulate? You forgot to claim that this statement doesn’t apply to you, your ideology, or your religion. You could fix this by putting an “other peoples’” language in there. Let me help you: You realize that people other than me who are fervent advocates and followers of an ideology or a religion other than mine are led by those who use that particular belief system as a tool to manipulate, unlike the person I idolate. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/426 "2019-01-22T23:04:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > What I realize is that your views on liberalism are as accurate as asahi’s views on conservatism. And your views on race are pretty much the equivalent of Huey’s. So treating people equally and Huey’s use of language, which if it were directed at a so-called special sample of a protected class would result in a ban, are equivalent? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/427 "2019-01-22T23:05:11Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > You forgot to claim that this statement doesn’t apply to you, your ideology, or your religion. You could fix this by putting an “other peoples’” language in there. Let me help you: > > You realize that people other than me who are fervent advocates and followers of an ideology or a religion other than mine are led by those who use that particular belief system as a tool to manipulate, unlike the person I idolate. Sad! Maybe it does apply to me and I’m too blind to see it? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/428 "2019-01-22T23:09:19Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > So treating people equally and Huey’s use of language, which if it were directed at a so-called special sample of a protected class would result in a ban, are equivalent? :dubious: If you could try to stop being stupid, and pay attention, it’d do you a world of good. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/429 "2019-01-22T23:13:21Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you could try to stop being stupid, “You can’t fix stupid” - Ron White ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/430 "2019-01-22T23:21:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > “You can’t fix stupid” - Ron White Current fad in education is praising effort, not results. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/431 "2019-01-23T00:04:44Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > So treating people equally and Huey’s use of language, which if it were directed at a so-called special sample of a protected class would result in a ban, are equivalent? :dubious: No, I was trying to be nice to you. Huey’s open about his racism. You’re as racist as he is but you try to hide it with claims that you just want to treat people equally. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/432 "2019-01-23T00:45:37Z")
> [@coffeecat](#): > > _I_ thought it was poetic and wise. … I thought so, too–I noticed that post and admired it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/433 "2019-01-23T00:57:00Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, I was trying to be nice to you. > > Huey’s open about his racism. You’re as racist as he is but you try to hide it with claims that you just want to treat people equally. I must be channeling Orwell tonight. As it can only be double speak and double think to state and believe equality is bigotry. I wonder what it’s like living in a mad head. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/434 "2019-01-23T01:11:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I must be channeling Orwell tonight. As it can only be double speak and double think to state and believe equality is bigotry. I wonder what it’s like living in a mad head. If you let a sick patient die because treating them would be treating them unequally, then you’re a goddamned idiot. If you only make such a refusal in cases in which the sickness is caused by the socially dominant group of which you’re a part, then it may be bigotry that leads to your behavior. Likeliest it’s both: bigotry with a candy coating of idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/435 "2019-01-23T02:53:52Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you let a sick patient die because treating them would be treating them unequally, then you’re a goddamned idiot. If you only make such a refusal in cases in which the sickness is caused by the socially dominant group of which you’re a part, then it may be bigotry that leads to your behavior. > > Likeliest it’s both: bigotry with a candy coating of idiocy. This sick patient/healthy person analogy is dumb and you should feel dumb for propagating it. ---
**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/436 "2019-01-23T03:01:28Z")
The idea that blackness is a kind of illness is kind of offensive actually. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/437 "2019-01-23T03:40:21Z")
For fuck’s sake ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/438 "2019-01-23T03:53:06Z")
> [@WernhamHogg](#): > > The idea that blackness is a kind of illness is kind of offensive actually. Good grief. Blackness ain’t the illness. White supremacy is. Get better at reading analogies. ---
**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/439 "2019-01-23T04:02:21Z")
Get better at making them. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/440 "2019-01-23T04:04:10Z")
> [@WernhamHogg](#): > > Get better at making them. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427.md?page=23)