# What the fuck is wrong with Huey Freeman? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 8, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427 "2019-01-08T20:43:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/81 "2019-01-11T06:27:41Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Just like you think about it, before you go flying off the handle here, foaming at the mouth at the latest article about Trump. > > Excuse me? > > I’m not exactly **Shodan** ’s biggest fan, but referring to his children as “imported” definitely sounds a little more than “what’s wrong with kids today”, dumbass. I’d say that it crosses the line into “Being a Jerk”. Attack **Shodan** , fine. But his daughter isn’t a member of the board, and that’s seriously fucked up, especially calling her “imported”. Who’s the racist _now_? > > Guess what? Being a minority or a victim of bigotry doesn’t give you a “Get Out of Jail Free” card. It’s not “be a good little POC and we’ll give you your rights”. It’s “being a victim of bigotry isn’t an excuse to be a jagoff.” Re-read my the post before this one. I can see why Huey wrote what he did. I’m not sure it’s what I would have written, but then again, I’m white. Sure, there’s a part of me that thinks “Okay, Huey, you attacked someone’s children - that’s kinda fucked up.” But there’s the other side of me that remembers how I was treated when I was a gaijin in Japan and I have enough self-awareness to know that being a white guy in Asia, however ‘foreign’ I felt, ain’t even a cent as hard as being black in America, a country whose economic and social system were essentially established on the foundation of white supremacy (over blacks). If you don’t ‘get it’, then you probably shouldn’t be lecturing Huey Freeman. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/82 "2019-01-11T07:14:07Z")
You do realize that not all of the people “lecturing” **Huey** are white, right? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/83 "2019-01-11T07:40:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You do realize that not all of the people “lecturing” **Huey** are white, right? Are they black? Or are they not white? There’s a difference. And if you don’t understand the difference, Huey wins. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/84 "2019-01-11T07:50:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You do realize that not all of the people “lecturing” **Huey** are white, right? Does not matter. You do realize black children, especially males, are least likely to be adopted. Now, go back, and re-read the interaction. Try to imagine being black in America and all the shit that comes with it, and then reading the thread. I think the problem is, most white liberals reading this say “I’m a progressive. I get blacks. I get women. I get minorities. WHY THE FUCK AM I NOT APPRECIATED?!” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/85 "2019-01-11T09:09:41Z")
Tell me something, \*\*ashai \*\*- is there a line **Huey** can’t cross? Is there anything he could say that you _wouldn’t_ find acceptable? ---
**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/86 "2019-01-11T09:23:21Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Are they black? > > Or are they not white? > > There’s a difference. And if you don’t understand the difference, Huey wins. You are so cringe ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/87 "2019-01-11T09:49:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Tell me something, \*\*ashai \*\*- is there a line **Huey** can’t cross? Is there anything he could say that you _wouldn’t_ find acceptable? That he really loves Trump ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/88 "2019-01-11T13:40:17Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > But, but…what about the children?! :rolleyes: > > You apparently were too thick to understand the blatant racism of the post that Huey responded to. “Racism”? You preposterous snot bucket. > [@](#): > > Read it again. Think about the smugness with which it was written, which is the same smugness and blithe disrespect and contempt he has for anyone not in his clan. My “clan” is People Who Don’t Kill 7 Year Old Girls Because They Are Too Fucking Stupid to Know Who They Are Shooting At, you monotonously silly armpit stain. Grips are in aisle five. Try one. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/89 "2019-01-11T14:30:12Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …Huey struck a nerve… This is an idiotic expression. Somebody says something clueless, nasty, bigoted - gets a reaction - “must have struck a nerve”. As though the _only_ thing that ever gets a reaction from people is when you bravely speak the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/90 "2019-01-11T15:53:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I think that whether you realize it or not, Huey struck a nerve Steve King struck a nerve this week when he spoke out in support of white supremacy. That doesn’t mean King is right. ---
**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/91 "2019-01-11T16:29:10Z")
Eh, I don’t know. I’ve felt kinda triggered before. This feels more like annoyance. That said, as long as there are people getting away with ‘scientific racism’ and the like all over the boards… meh, might as well let Huey post about how inbreeding makes white people sociopathic and autistic. Also, that sociopathy and autism are apparently the same. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/92 "2019-01-11T18:11:42Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Oh fer fecks sake, he didn’t go after anyone’s kids anymore than anyone who talks about “What’s wrong with kids today?” does. Thirty minutes later: > [@asahi](#): > > Sure, there’s a part of me that thinks “Okay, Huey, you attacked someone’s children - that’s kinda fucked up.” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/93 "2019-01-11T20:34:43Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Are they black? > > Or are they not white? > > There’s a difference. And if you don’t understand the difference, Huey wins. So, in other words, of all non-white people, only black people have other suffered oppression? Jews, the disabled, Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, LGBT, etc – none of them have ever been discriminated against? Does that mean that **Huey** can use all the slurs he wants against any of them, and he gets a free pass, because he’s black? Because that seems to be your message. If not, you suck at communicating, jackass. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/94 "2019-01-11T20:39:20Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Think about it a little more, Sunny Daze - and the rest of you. Maybe if we all _drink_ a little more? I think that could be where our deficit lies. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/95 "2019-01-12T01:25:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Steve King struck a nerve this week when he spoke out in support of white supremacy. That doesn’t mean King is right. Steve King has been elected 9 times. And this message board is on Huey Freeman’s ass? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/96 "2019-01-12T01:49:14Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …And this message board is on Huey Freeman’s ass? You’ve almost got it now. Huey Freeman is an ass who’s on this message board. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/97 "2019-01-12T01:58:06Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Steve King has been elected 9 times. > > And this message board is on Huey Freeman’s ass? Steve King and Huey Freeman are both racists. Why should we condemn one and condone the other? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/98 "2019-01-12T02:22:51Z")
Yup. But I think that’s obvious to almost everyone except asahi. Let’s stipulate the distinction that Huey as black person lacks the “power” element of “prejudice plus power”. Huey’s racism is not the same thing as white racism. But what Huey exhibits is nevertheless clearly racism, in the usual colloquial sense of the word. He treats all “white folk” as a monolithic enemy. Who we are as individuals doesn’t seem to matter, only the identity defined by the color of our skin. He talks disparagingly about white fragility, with breathtaking lack of insight into the irony of his _own_ fragility: here’s a man who, when criticized in any way, grants himself blanket immunity by dishonestly inserting a term of abhorrent racist abuse into the mouths of any critics. So, asahi, can you explain how genuflecting to Huey, this toxic divisive racist, would help fight racism? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/99 "2019-01-12T02:34:27Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > But, but…what about the children?! :rolleyes: > > You apparently were too thick to understand the blatant racism of the post that Huey responded to. > > Read it again. Think about the smugness with which it was written, which is the same smugness and blithe disrespect and contempt he has for anyone not in his clan. > > No sensible person is going to argue that it’s “right” to insult a man’s children. But it’s not right to assault a man’s race, either. > > Think about it a little more, Sunny Daze - and the rest of you. Think about what, exactly? He’s not entitled to smear my child, disabled folks, and other people’s children because “white people”. Is anyone assaulting **Huey** ’s race? Just because we think he’s bawbag, it doesn’t mean that we are attacking him on the basis of race. We’re calling him a racist, because he posts hateful screeds about anyone with even a drop of white blood. The argument that “those guys did it first” isn’t an excuse. How about if none of us do it, to the extent possible? It’s nice to see you doing something other than hyperventilating over politics. You’re still a twit, however. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/100 "2019-01-12T03:12:33Z")
You are wrong about autism and empathy. Your cite is wrong about autism and empathy. Autistic people may have trouble expressing empathy but we certainly feel it. But what the fuck do we know, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427.md?page=6)