# What the fuck is wrong with Huey Freeman? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 8, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427 "2019-01-08T20:43:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/101 "2019-01-12T03:39:21Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Think about what, exactly? He’s not entitled to smear my child, disabled folks, and other people’s children because “white people”. > > Is anyone assaulting **Huey** ’s race? Just because we think he’s bawbag, it doesn’t mean that we are attacking him on the basis of race. We’re calling him a racist, because he posts hateful screeds about anyone with even a drop of white blood. The argument that “those guys did it first” isn’t an excuse. How about if none of us do it, to the extent possible? Who was it who said “why hate people based on their race when there’s a lot of better reasons to hate them?” (I want to say it was Denis Leary, but I can’t seem to find it) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/102 "2019-01-12T03:42:01Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > You are wrong about autism and empathy. Your cite is wrong about autism and empathy. Autistic people may have trouble expressing empathy but we certainly feel it. > > But what the fuck do we know, right? But you see, when you say that, what you are saying doesn’t matter, because what Huey is _hearing_ is: “The n\*\*\*\*\*\* is being uppity and the white folks can’t stand it” Which proves that Huey is right about autism, and you are a racist. Apparently. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/103 "2019-01-12T04:08:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Steve King and Huey Freeman are both racists. Why should we condemn one and condone the other? Oh Jesus Fucking Christ!:rolleyes: It should be obvious that there is a major difference between someone who actually has the power to abuse and harm people with his racism, and someone who is “racist” because he’s fucking pissed to live in a society where even 53 years after the Civil Rights Acts, this country is blithely carrying on in a country that is being governed by a White Supremacist organization. And has the audacity to spout off on a message board. Major - fucking - difference. Do I like Huey Freeman’s rhetoric? Maybe not. Would we have much to say if I sat next to him in a bar? Maybe not. But whether you realize it or not, you’re proving him right. And he’s right because you all have an idea of what a “productive” social justice warrior should be. That’s all well and fine, but considering you’re not actually, you know, the one who actually has to experience driving while black, I guess he’s telling you he just doesn’t give a fuck what you think. Sorry, but not every black guy whose had the experience of being shit on by white supremacist America is going to protest like a polite gentleman. We can debate which approach is more or less effective, but if someone wants to go Malcolm X, who the fuck are you to complain about it. Again, it’s not your fight…“brotha”. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/104 "2019-01-12T04:17:24Z")
Farzle. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/105 "2019-01-12T04:28:08Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Farzle. I doesn’t bear imagining what Huey hears inside his head when you say that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/106 "2019-01-12T04:40:57Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Oh Jesus Fucking Christ!:rolleyes: > > It should be obvious that there is a major difference between someone who actually has the power to abuse and harm people with his racism, and someone who is “racist” because he’s fucking pissed to live in a society where even 53 years after the Civil Rights Acts, this country is blithely carrying on in a country that is being governed by a White Supremacist organization. And has the audacity to spout off on a message board. > > Major - fucking - difference. > > Do I like Huey Freeman’s rhetoric? Maybe not. > > Would we have much to say if I sat next to him in a bar? Maybe not. > > But whether you realize it or not, you’re proving him right. And he’s right because you all have an idea of what a “productive” social justice warrior should be. That’s all well and fine, but considering you’re not actually, you know, the one who actually has to experience driving while black, I guess he’s telling you he just doesn’t give a fuck what you think. > > Sorry, but not every black guy whose had the experience of being shit on by white supremacist America is going to protest like a polite gentleman. We can debate which approach is more or less effective, but if someone wants to go Malcolm X, who the fuck are you to complain about it. Again, it’s not your fight…“brotha”. So, for the sake of argument, black people are allowed to be antisemites, homophobes, they can use slurs against Asians, Native Americans, Latinos, etc? You know your argument also applies to people like **Fenris** and **Alessan** , correct? You don’t think Jews, of all people, aren’t allowed to be pissed off and bitter? Seriously, you have no idea how patronizing that is. :rolleyes: (Again, I don’t care how **Huey** feels about white people. I do, however, think going after peoples’ kids is fucked up. **Shodan** may be white. His _daughter_, however, is not.) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/107 "2019-01-12T04:47:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …But whether you realize it or not, you’re proving him right. And he’s right because you all have an idea of what a “productive” social justice warrior should be. That’s all well and fine, but considering you’re not actually, you know, the one who actually has to experience driving while black, I guess he’s telling you he just doesn’t give a fuck what you think. > > Sorry, but not every black guy whose had the experience of being shit on by white supremacist America is going to protest like a polite gentleman. We can debate which approach is more or less effective, but if someone wants to go Malcolm X, who the fuck are you to complain about it. Again, it’s not your fight…“brotha”. Okay, I’ll stop taking the piss for a moment and see if you can convince me that you/he have some point here. When you say “proving him right”, what do you mean? Proving _what_, exactly? If it’s not our fight, and he’s doesn’t give a fuck what we think, then why is he here? Is there _any_ intended productive purpose, or is he just venting? I mean, you can go on all day about how he has a _right_ to be angry and embittered. Fine. But what’s the point in living a life that seems to consist of: I’m pissed off, so I’m going to abuse white people to show them how pissed off I am, and don’t ever tell me I don’t have a right to be abusive! Or is he completely different in real life, and he imagines that this online toxic racially abusive performance art is going to lead us to some kind of epiphany about _our_ nature as “white folk”? I mean, he claims that he doesn’t just hang out with black people, but I don’t believe he has any white friends if this is the way he acts IRL. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/108 "2019-01-12T05:03:21Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Okay, I’ll stop taking the piss for a moment and see if you can convince me that you/he have some point here. When you say “proving him right”, what do you mean? Proving _what_, exactly? You’re proving him right in the sense that you are trying to establish the rules of conduct for how black victims can speak to their white abusers. It’s like trying to tell victims of sexual assault what’s a valid claim of assault and how they should and should not feel about it. > [@Riemann](#): > > If it’s not our fight, and he’s doesn’t give a fuck what we think, then why is he here? Is there _any_ intended productive purpose, or is he just venting? He wants you to understand how he feels. He doesn’t give a fuck how you feel, because he’s the one who’s experienced racism, not as some meaningless academic or online debate, but as part of his reality and everyday experience. Talking about experiencing racial discrimination, and living its consequences since the day you’re born…those are two different things. > [@Riemann](#): > > I mean, you can go on all day about how he has a _right_ to be angry and embittered. Fine. But what’s the point in living a life that seems to consist of: I’m pissed off, so I’m going to abuse white people to show them how pissed off I am, and don’t ever tell me I don’t have a right to be abusive! Do you really feel abused by Huey? Really? He’s some anonymous guy on the internet who apparently has ideas you don’t like. But is that abuse? > [@Riemann](#): > > Or is he completely different in real life, and he imagines that this online toxic racially abusive performance art is going to lead us to some kind of epiphany about _our_ nature as “white folk”? I mean, he claims that he doesn’t just hang out with black people, but I don’t believe he has any white friends if this is the way he acts IRL. This is a place where he can truly say what he wants. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/109 "2019-01-12T05:07:39Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > So, for the sake of argument, black people are allowed to be antisemites, homophobes, they can use slurs against Asians, Native Americans, Latinos, etc? No, not necessarily. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > You know your argument also applies to people like **Fenris** and **Alessan** , correct? You don’t think Jews, of all people, aren’t allowed to be pissed off and bitter? Sure, to a degree. But they did get their holy land. Do blacks have a holy land? They did have a black wall street once, but…it got burnt to the ground in one of America’s worst race riots. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > (Again, I don’t care how **Huey** feels about white people. I do, however, think going after peoples’ kids is fucked up. **Shodan** may be white. His _daughter_, however, is not.) I didn’t see his comments as racist. I think it was a low-blow, but it wasn’t racist per se. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/110 "2019-01-12T06:25:08Z")
[I’m quoting you out of order, to put the part I somewhat agree with first…] > [@asahi](#): > > He wants you to understand how he feels. He doesn’t give a fuck how you feel, because he’s the one who’s experienced racism, not as some meaningless academic or online debate, but as part of his reality and everyday experience. Talking about experiencing racial discrimination, and living its consequences since the day you’re born…those are two different things… Yes. As I said early in this thread, the first thing every person who grew up with privilege should do is shut up and listen, even if it makes us uncomfortable - _especially_ if it makes us uncomfortable. I listened patiently to Huey for a long while in his first “Living While Black” thread before I eventually got sick of his nonsense at [post #491](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21126508&postcount=491) of that thread. But there are two facets to listening. One is to try to appreciate what it’s like to walk a mile in someone’s shoes. That’s something I’ll try to have almost indefinite uncritical patience to try to hear. The other is to listen to their _ideas_. Context is still important of course, but ideas have objective value and merit. So you’re not going to tell me that I shouldn’t engage my critical faculties when a person from a marginalized group expresses an _idea_. I’m not going to apply a lower patronizing uncritical standard (a _racist_ double standard), as though a history of marginalization handicaps someone’s intellect. If Huey’s is expressing his lived experience, that’s one thing. But I’m going to engage and debate the _ideas_ that originate in Huey’s mind on their merits. Do you really think he’d prefer otherwise? > [@asahi](#): > > You’re proving him right in the sense that you are trying to establish the rules of conduct for how black victims can speak to their white abusers. It’s like trying to tell victims of sexual assault what’s a valid claim of assault and how they should and should not feel about it. Huey is not being “proven right” - because I never claimed the opposite. I certainly never said that I’d grant him a pass and suck up _any_ awful way he might behave toward me or others, just because he’s black. Voicing your anger is one thing, but I’m not ever going to give _anyone_ a pass on a sustained barrage of toxic bigoted rhetoric just because they belong to one particular marginalized group. It’s so easy to reduce this kind of identity-based double standard to absurdity. I mean, you basically have to put every human being into a monotonic hierarchy of victimhood in order to establish who is allowed to be how much of an asshole to whom. In the real world, a decent society requires baseline standards that must apply to everyone, and if he doesn’t like that - well so far as I’m concerned he’s welcome to fuck off, and I won’t be wringing my hands that I’m not woke enough. And here again, if you think otherwise, I think you’re applying a patronizing (and frankly racist) lower standard of social ethics and morality to black people or other marginalized groups. > [@asahi](#): > > Do you really feel abused by Huey? No, of course not. That’s not what’s at stake here - the fact that his language is abusive does not really concern me nearly so much as his toxic bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Discordian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@Discordian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discordian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/111 "2019-01-12T06:54:18Z")
(Disclaimer: I’m a straight white guy) Here’s the basic problem: When black people act in a fashion that white people are comfortable with, nothing fucking happens. Only by violating the comfort boundaries of white people do black people ever get recognized or listened to. MLK wasn’t a popular figure before he was murdered. A majority of the country disapproved of what he was doing. Naturally not supporting his cause (as it’s understood in various circles) is basically unthinkable to modern liberals (another disclaimer: I’m pretty liberal). The Black Panthers also suffered for their actions, but they helped create a space for other, less extreme activists to move into the space that they created and foster lasting change. There’s actually a pretty good movie about it called “The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution”. Everyone should watch it, especially white people who think they’re “woke”. If the BPP hadn’t been so extreme, and instead had acted “respectful” and hadn’t been “uppity” and hadn’t made white people feel “uncomfortable”, then they wouldn’t have accomplished much. When black people openly carried guns around the California statehouse suddenly white conservatives, including Saint Reagan himself, started thinking that gun control was desperately important. Wait, what? Look up the Mulford Act, AKA “wait, shit, black people are allowed to own guns and carry them around in public!?” I don’t speak for Huey Freeman, but I’m willing to listen to what he has to say. I suspect that what he says that comes across as hyperbole is more an expression of frustration than anything else. But not just frustration, there’s some truth in there. He isn’t trolling, people just aren’t fucking listening. I suspect that every time a white person responds to a black person’s complaints with “well, not me…” it comes across as at best a little ridiculous. Myself included. Few of us want to imagine ourselves as being racist, but benefiting from a racist system without trying to do anything to change it is, by itself, at best ignorant and at worst racist. I’ll never claim to understand what non-white people go through, or non-male/non-straight people for that matter. But I’ll try to listen and understand. Maybe other people should, too. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/112 "2019-01-12T07:00:35Z")
> [@Discordian](#): > > … So have you read the “Living While Black” thread? Because you seem to be making generic points about white people and black people that are not responsive to any of the actual problems that people have expressed with Huey. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/113 "2019-01-12T07:23:51Z")
Oh, they got their HOLY LAND back! Well, then it’s all okay! Everything’s all sunshine and roses for the Jews now! :rolleyes: The reason I don’t like **Huey** has fuck all to do with his anger about racism. He’s got plenty of valid complaints there. It’s the fact that he’s an asshole and uses “but but but RACISM!!!” as an excuse. Attacking peoples kids is being an asshole. Period. Claiming, “but I’m an oppressed person!” isn’t a valid excuse. He doesn’t want to be nice? Fine. But then don’t expect anyone else to play nice either. Don’t call people racial slurs, and then claim it’s okay, because you’re a minority, so you get a free pass. (His comments about “imported children”, whatever it was he called **Bricker** , comments about kids with autism, etc) THAT is being an asshole. If someone shoves someone down the stairs, they’re being an asshole. I don’t care what their race/religion/age/sexual orientation is, they’re an asshole. If someone insults a family member of mine, for no reason, they’re an asshole. His claims that we’re attacking him because he’s black would make about as much sense as me saying you’re attacking me because I’m a woman. Do you have any idea how incredibly patronizing your attitude is? Black people can’t HELP being emotional – they’re so oppressed and fed up, they have no other way of acting. It’s so insane. The reason people believe he’s a _troll_, (not a racist), is because a.) he only posts about one subject and one subject only and b.) he posts only in the Pit. Those are usually big signs that someone’s a troll, no matter WHAT they’re posting about. There are no winners in the Oppression Olympics. (I listened to what he had to say. I dropped out a long time ago) ---
**Author:** ![Discordian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@Discordian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discordian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/114 "2019-01-12T07:53:15Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > So have you read the “Living While Black” thread? Because you seem to be making generic points about white people and black people that are not responsive to any of the actual problems that people have expressed with Huey. I skimmed it, especially paying attention to the last few pages. I read both these threads and spent some time formulating my post above. My main take-away was that people hijacked the shit out of a thread about the suffering of black people to try to alleviate their guilt about their own inaction, along the lines of “but I can’t possibly be racist…” At the very least we should make an effort to learn and attempt to understand, though understanding will probably elude us. And accusing Huey or being racist? Well, tough shit. Everyone’s racist. It’s up to us how much we’re willing to recognize and act on it. If someone says “white people are racist” and the response is basically “no, you’re racist!” Well, that’s hypocritical as shit as far as I’m concerned. Black people are perfectly justified in being angry at how things have gone for them in the US, and I don’t think it’s my place to judge. And basically my point is that if Huey wasn’t provocative then this thread wouldn’t exist, and we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. He’s confrontational because he has to be, or else he gets ignored, and the very real problems that he’s trying to address get ignored. Is he offensive? From a white perspective, even a baseline liberal white perspective, yes. But is he wrong? Not my call. I’m not fit to judge his experiences in this country. Are you assuming that you are? Mighty fucking white of you. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/115 "2019-01-12T08:03:35Z")
> [@Discordian](#): > > …I don’t speak for Huey Freeman, but I’m willing to listen to what he has to say… > But I’ll try to listen and understand. Maybe other people should, too. > [@Discordian](#): > > I skimmed it… So your handing out patronizing lectures on how we should all _listen and understand_ like you do. But you haven’t actually bothered to read the thread. > [@Discordian](#): > > …I’m not fit to judge his experiences in this country. Are you assuming that you are? Mighty fucking white of you. And I’ve never “assumed” anything remotely like this. I’ve emphasize several times the diametric opposite - that the first thing we must always do is shut up and listen - and you seem to know nothing about the _actual_ complaints against Huey’s behavior. So obviously you haven’t bothered to read _this_ thread either. Fuck off, you patronizing idiot. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/116 "2019-01-12T08:03:51Z")
There is a difference between listening to what people have to say and accepting their bigotry. I fucking tried when he first got here. I tried to help him. Hell, it was my idea to push for a “Living while Black” thread rather than his that sounded accusatory. And, for a short while, it seemed he was trying not to offend people. But that went out the window. And even then I tried to help. But the **Bricker** situation is exactly when I gave up on him. I decided that, if a white racist had said that shit, they’d be on my ignore list, and so I treated him equally. I still question if he’s real, because assholes like him are exactly the right wing stereotype. I also question it because of that post where he sees how many times he can slip in the n-word. There was no fucking reason for it. I can’t say I have a lot of black real-life friends, but I’ve discussed racial issues with black people all the time, and at most they would use the word once, when discussing the word itself. ---
**Author:** ![Discordian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@Discordian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discordian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/117 "2019-01-12T08:17:41Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > patronizing The deflection is strong in this one. ---
**Author:** ![Discordian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@Discordian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discordian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/118 "2019-01-12T08:21:23Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I can’t say I have a lot of black real-life friends, but I’ve discussed racial issues with black people all the time, and at most they would use the word once, when discussing the word itself. And you still don’t comprehend that this is the equivalent of “some of my best friends are black…”? Discussing race is not the same as understanding the experiences of someone from another race. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/119 "2019-01-12T08:23:36Z")
> [@Discordian](#): > > The deflection is strong in this one. Oh, I see you went to the Huey school of rhetoric (earlier reincarnated as asahi’s “struck a nerve”). When faced with criticism, ignore the substance of the criticism and accuse the person of being “fragile”. If someone gets pissed off at you, you _must_ have fearlessly spoken the truth, because it’s not as though other things such as acting like a supercilious hypocritical wanker ever gets a reaction out of people. You two would probably get along just great - you could tell people that one of your friends is black. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/120 "2019-01-12T08:32:16Z")
> [@Discordian](#): > > Discussing race is not the same as understanding the experiences of someone from another race. If you want people to take any of your dickish patronizing comments seriously, at least have the respect to go and _read_ the fucking threads that you’re commenting on, rather than projecting/manufacturing what faux pas you _imagine_ we have probably committed and telling us where we went wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427.md?page=7)