# What The Fuck is Wrong With Saudi Arabia?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535 "2010-06-09T14:23:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/21 "2010-06-09T20:35:04Z")

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He’s sucking all the fun out of it.

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**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/22 "2010-06-09T20:46:03Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> While I have no problem with humans drinking human milk…it sounds like ridiculous loophole jumping to me. Then again, I’m not socially, emotionally or spiritually invested in their holy rule book, so whaddo I know?

It does seem like a ridiculous loophole, yes. But Saudi-style Islam isn’t the only religion offering us these weird ways to follow the letter of the law without necessarily following its spirit, so I can’t get especially worked up about it. I guess having grown men drink breast milk may be squickier than most loopholes, though.

This said, I agree that Saudi Arabia doesn’t seem like an especially good place to live.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/23 "2010-06-09T20:48:13Z")

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To me it’s looking better every day.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/24 "2010-06-09T21:47:47Z")

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Janet Jackson is a secret Muslim!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/25 "2010-06-09T21:49:49Z")

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Wow. Of all the things to Pit about Saudi Arabia, I wouldn’t have expected this one.

> [@wmfellows](#):
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> He did mention, it seems given that summary, milk pumps.

It appears, however, that there is another [school of thought](http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/saudi-clerics-advocate-adult-breast-feeding/19504280): :eek:

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> Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.
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> But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman’s breast.

I predict the sudden emergence of a fervent “Huwainiyite school” of Islamic jurisprudence here on the Dope. 😃

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/26 "2010-06-11T15:50:32Z")

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So, is there any aspect of Saudi Islam that isn’t entirely centered on sex?

Tris

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/27 "2010-06-11T16:40:38Z")

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Well, the floggings are purely punitive in nature.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/28 "2010-06-11T16:44:58Z")

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The whole region is going tits-up. 😃

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/29 "2010-06-11T16:49:12Z")

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> [@wmfellows](#):
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> He did mention, it seems given that summary, milk pumps. Rather disappointing, really. I mean think of the potential…

Don’t they realize it’s more “natural” to get it straight from the “tap”?

Just like God intended.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/30 "2010-06-11T18:04:49Z")

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Actually, it seems the parts about sex have very little to do with sex, and more to do about not having it.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/31 "2010-06-11T18:18:49Z")

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I believe women have to either be pregnant or in close contact with a nursing baby to give milk, i.e., nursuing it. I do not know if adult men can “fill in” for babies here … but I am sure some will try.

What’s wrong with Saudi Arabia? Fundamentalist Islam.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/32 "2010-06-11T18:24:18Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> The whole region is going tits-up. 😃

\*\* groans\*\*

Well, Mencken dd refer to relgious leaders generally as “boobs”. so there’s precedent. 😛

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/33 "2010-06-11T19:17:44Z")

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Would “flatus particulate siblings” hold the same legal weight as “breast milk siblings?” That would be eaisier to arrange.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/34 "2010-06-11T19:38:35Z")

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Well, I guess it’s like Rose-a-Sharif in _The Grapes of Baath_…

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/35 "2010-06-11T19:46:31Z")

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What I’m wondering is do the men only have to drink it once and that’s it? _POOF_ _Instant siblings for eternity_! Or is the effect temporary, and the men must reload after a certain amount of time? Seems to me it might be prudent to convert a batch to cheese and throw it in the fridge in case the woman is away.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/36 "2010-06-11T19:50:41Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> What I’m wondering is do the men only have to drink it once and that’s it? _POOF_ _Instant siblings for eternity_! Or is the effect temporary, and the men must reload after a certain amount of time? Seems to me it might be prudent to convert a batch to cheese and throw it in the fridge in case the woman is away.

Reading the link, it seems some of the women are arguing that it takes 5 “filling” meals to make a person (infant, presumably)…uh…kosher…under this idea. They’re saying that the male clerics just don’t get it, and they simply can’t make that much milk for grown men!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/37 "2010-06-11T19:54:44Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Well, I guess it’s like Rose-a-Sharif in _The Grapes of Baath_…

I saw what you did there.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/38 "2010-06-11T19:57:48Z")

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What is a non-lactating woman supposed to do?

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/39 "2010-06-11T20:37:04Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I saw what you did there.

We all did- and it was wonderful.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-saudi-arabia/542535/40 "2010-06-11T20:54:32Z")

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I’m kind of loving the mental image I have of the new Saudi burkha–the woman is entirely covered except for her breasts sticking out of the two holes in the front of it.

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