# What the fuck is wrong with these homophobic bigots? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2000, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948 "2000-02-01T17:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/341 "2000-03-15T13:47:00Z")
> [@](#): > > You are applying, yet again, classical leftist contortionism. (So anyone who is not so rigidly biased that they cannot flex their minds, at all, is a contortionist?) Unless you can provide any reputable evidence that homosexuality should not be considered a legitimate alternative to heterosexuality, then your position is one of persecution and I have not distorted anything to the left or the right. Since every bit of evidence that I have seen indicates that sexual orientation is something that an individual cannot control (and you have certainly provided no _evidence_ to the contrary), then sexual orientation should fall into the same category as any other aspect of a person that is not under their control. Similarly, it is in the interest of society to ensure that children do not growing up hating or fearing that which is different than artificially set societal patterns. This is especially true when one considers that those children may grow up to discover that that condition is _their_ condition. You can describe that as a mere political agenda if you choose. Until you provide _evidence_ that there is any _factual_ basis for your prejudices, we are under no obligation to accept your views as anything other than bent, rightist person-bashing. * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/342 "2000-03-16T14:17:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by CalifBoomer: > > Homosexuality as a viable alternative to heterosexuality should be taught in schools. > > Creationism as a viable alternative to evolution should **not** be taught in schools. Homosexuality and evolution are verifiable facts, whereas creationism is religious dogma. (Personally, I think creationism should be taught along with other world creation myths in World History or Social Sciences or somesuch.) And what’s with this “homosexuality is a viable alternative?” I never understood that phrase. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/343 "2000-03-16T14:20:00Z")
You know, I waited a **whole day** and when I didn’t see that damn thing posted after so many tries, I posted it again. I am **so sorry**. ☹ Esprix, who grovels accordingly… * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/344 "2000-03-16T16:07:00Z")
## Sorry isn’t enough. You’d better send me some SERIOUS chocolate for THAT many multiposts. Lynn If it’s helpful, I’ll compare everyone to Hitler so we can get this over with as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/345 "2000-03-16T16:32:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni: > > Sorry isn’t enough. You’d better send me some SERIOUS chocolate for THAT many multiposts. I live in Pennsylvania, baby - seriously, I can get it fresh from the _source_, the real deal, man… 🙂 Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2000, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/346 "2000-03-17T06:53:00Z")
Esprix: > [@](#): > > Homosexuality and evolution are verifiable facts, whereas creationism is religious dogma. > (Personally, I think creationism should be taught along with other world creation myths in > World History or Social Sciences or somesuch.) Fortunately, what **you** allege to think is of no relevance whatsoever, except to gullible, sanctimonious, New World Order Socialist slime like tomndebb. You are in a deviant minority. Your continuing attempts to promote your perversions -especially in schools- will not be tolerated. You like evidence? Prop 22. :: ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2000, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/347 "2000-03-17T14:01:00Z")
So, **CalifBoomer** , you still cannot produce even one shred of evidence to support your bigotry? (Would you like me to provide some links to various KKK and related sites for you? I’ll even explain how you can use your computer to browse those sites if you need.) * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2000, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/348 "2000-03-17T14:36:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by CalifBoomer: > > Fortunately, what **you** allege to think is of no relevance whatsoever, except to gullible, sanctimonious, New World Order Socialist slime like tomndebb. What? In case you missed it, I _agreed_ with you, you illiterate moron. > [@](#): > > You are in a deviant minority. Your continuing attempts to promote your perversions -especially in schools- will not be tolerated. You like evidence? Prop 22. Oh, that again. Dance your little victory dance while you can, spud boy - the war’s far from over. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2000, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/349 "2000-03-17T16:26:00Z")
Well, **CalifBoomer** , allow _me_ to dance a little dance o’ victory - go see my post in the GD “Domestic partnership” thread. Seems Vermont is in favor of 'em. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2000, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/350 "2000-03-17T22:09:00Z")
So Prop 22 passed. SO FUCKING WHAT? It only shows that the majority can be wrong about something. Democracy works ONLY when the populace is properly educated and informed. Our population is neither. One reason is because our public schools are so ill-funded, especially California’s. Last I heard, California ranked 48th in the country in funding per student. Or maybe it was _49th_. What a fucking joke. * * * When all else fails, ask Cecil. ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2000, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/351 "2000-03-18T02:55:00Z")
tomndebb: BTW-What does ‘tomndebb’ mean? Are you a fucking hermaphrodite? > [@](#): > > So, CalifBoomer, you still cannot produce even one shred of evidence to support your > bigotry? I’ve read your moronic ramblings, you egocentric pissant. You wouldn’t know evidence if it crawled up your ass and died. Socialist. Parasite. Sanctimonious piece of shit. Esprix: > [@](#): > > Oh, that again. Dance your little victory dance while you can, spud boy - the war’s far > from over. Bring it on, freak. :: ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2000, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/352 "2000-03-18T05:12:00Z")
{{BTW-What does ‘tomndebb’ mean? Are you a fucking hermaphrodite?}} Tom and Debb are a married (mixed sex) couple, and share the same AOL SN. I don’t think that Debb posts to any of the Straight Dope areas, just Tom. And Tom always signs himself as Tom. So no, he’s not a hermaphrodite. Whether he fucks or not is none of my business, or yours, or anyone’s except for TomnDebb’s. ## He’s a well-educated, thoughtful Christian. I rarely agree with his religious views, but I always enjoy reading them. If I were to convert back to Christianity, it would be because of people like Tom and Eutychuss and a very few others. But that’s quite unlikely. Lynn If it’s helpful, I’ll compare everyone to Hitler so we can get this over with as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2000, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/353 "2000-03-18T07:12:00Z")
In reverse order: > [@](#): > > Sanctimonious piece of shit. Not very original. > [@](#): > > Parasite. Hey! I pay my taxes. > [@](#): > > Socialist. This one is puzzling because I am very much a capitalist. My guess is that it is simply a belief system that you hate, so you fling the word around without regard to whether it is at all appropriate to the discussion or your opponent. > [@](#): > > You wouldn’t know evidence if it crawled up your ass and died. Well, you’re the one who always signs off with two colons. (And you are still unable to provide actual facts to support your unreasoning hatred. :::sigh::: ) * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2000, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/354 "2000-03-18T07:14:00Z")
(Thanks, Lynn.) ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2000, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/355 "2000-03-18T07:41:00Z")
> [@](#): > > (And you are still unable to provide actual facts to support your unreasoning hatred. On the contrary. My contempt is quite reasoned. :: ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2000, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/356 "2000-03-18T08:11:00Z")
No. You simply hate. You have asserted any number of things, few of them tying together in a logical progression and none of them supported by facts. That pretty well defines an unreasoning hatred. (You have also misspelled “hatred” as “contempt.” You have not demonstrated the moral character to be capable of contempt. Hatred is your only apparent emotion.) I’ll pray for you. * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2000, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/357 "2000-03-19T06:43:00Z")
Thank you for an outwardly eloquent, yet upon examination, empty response. However, may I suggest that you pull your head out of your ass and look around? **This is the Pit!!** wherein I am allowed to express myself in any manner whatsoever, without restriction. Your response has demonstrated, once again, your collectivist mindset. When challenged or exposed you employ the same old tired tactics of knee jerk liberalism, ie., a counterfeit attempt to take the higher road. In conjunction with this fraudulent ploy, you use pc words (ie., hatred) in a weak attempt to throw your opponent off balance. Your recitation of such meaningless verbiage does not impress me whatsoever. You’ve chosen an indefensible position. Collectivism has failed everywhere it’s been put to the test of reality. BTW, with regard to your offer to ‘pray for me’- before so doing, I suggest you read ‘The Great Controversy’ by Ellen G. White. It may open your eyes to the denomination of which you are a member. And since this _is_ the Pit, I have a question for you? Just what kind of parasite are you? From which public trough are you currently feeding? I’ll wager you’re either 1)employed by an agency supported with public funds 2)retired from such an agency. :: ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2000, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/358 "2000-03-19T00:36:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by CalifBoomer: > \*\*a counterfeit attempt to take the higher road. \*\* You REALLY don’t know **tom** very well, do you? He ALWAYS takes the high road and it’s ALWAYS honest. You, on the other hand, frequently take the low road. Frankly, I expect better behavior from a Christian. I expect behavior like **tom** ’s. You want me to quote a few verses? 😉 * * * When all else fails, ask Cecil. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2000, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/359 "2000-03-19T01:58:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Just what kind of parasite are you? From which public trough are you currently feeding? I’ll wager you’re either 1)employed by an agency supported with public funds 2)retired from such an agency. I wish I could take your money. The closest that I have ever come to a “public agency” was sorting/delivering the mail for my schoolmates in college. I have never been employed by any government agency at any level. My employers, from my college summers through the present, have all been capitalists whose earnings was based on either manufacturing or sales to persons or other corporations. (I did work for one company for which the government was about 2% of the customer base, but that 2% represented actual durable goods sold to the maritime and Navy procurement process.) * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2000, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/360 "2000-03-20T16:12:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by CalifBoomer: > > Bring it on, freak. I did; or, rather, Vermont did for me - civil unions are a signature away from becoming law in Vermont. But based on your one and only intelligent, rational post from a while ago, I thought you had decided you were _for_ domestic partnerships? Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948.md?page=19)