# What the fuck is wrong with these homophobic bigots? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2000, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948 "2000-02-01T17:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neuro-trash_grrrl)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2000, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/21 "2000-02-03T06:35:00Z")
Rep. Barney Frank is always decrying the congresspersons who claim that gay marriage will undermine the sacrament of marriage, but then go cheat on their spouses. Well, there isn’t any gay marriage in the Bible, but there is plenty of adultery, so it must be okay. Putting aside all issues of religion and Biblical justification for the moment, the basic problem seems to be that many people just don’t believe that two men or two women can love each other with the same depth that a man and a woman can, or raise non-screwed up children. Horse hockey, I say. I once loved a woman enough to marry her, I will probably do it again. Aha, you say, “loved”, past tense. Didn’t work out, did it? See, there you go. Lesbian love is by nature a hedonistic and transient thing, and can never result in life-long commitment. Right. And I suppose every single straight person you know is doing better? Hah. Cecil’s most recent column gave the best summary of this subject that I’ve seen so far, and I think everybody should read it. Perhaps certain well-publicized same-sex couples (like the interesting family grouping who graced the cover of Rolling Stone a while back) will help change things, perhaps not. I do believe in the slow creeping flow of enlightenment, though, and I believe that one day, with luck and action in the appropriate places, I will be able to marry the girl of my dreams. * * * An infinite number of rednecks in an infinite number of pickup trucks shooting an infinite number of shotguns at an infinite number of road signs will eventually produce all the world’s great works of literature in Braille. ---
**Author:** ![Squid\_Vicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Squid\_Vicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squid_Vicious)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2000, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/22 "2000-02-03T15:06:00Z")
Garsh! Thanks Connie. (I would use a smiley, but the Chief might take his anger out by making his entire division field day for 4 hours) Why is it that you and David B are my favorite posters? Oh what the hell, the decks probably need cleaning anyway. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2000, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/23 "2000-02-04T06:06:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Brilliant! May I quote you? Thanks 🙂 Go for it. * * * Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion. –Writer Ron Hubbard in 1949 who later founded the Church of Scientology ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2000, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/24 "2000-02-03T21:34:00Z")
**AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!** People just do not learn! Now some moron on the debate board over Cecil’s column on SSM says the following: [ul][li]Law has its roots in the Bible, so we should use the Bible to argue law;[/li][li]It’s not discriminatory because its “logical” to recognize the differences between same-sex couples and opposite-sex couples;[/li][li]So what if it is discriminatory? Shut up and live with it.[/ul][/li] Not only does none of it make sense or hold water, but I’m so appalled that someone would so callously blow off their own admission of discrimination that I couldn’t even respond. I mean, Christ, I’m not asking this guy to run for the legislature and make SSM legal, but on a fucking discussion board you’d think he could at least say, yeah, hey, discrimination is wrong, even if he has no plans to do anything about it. Just fuck me gently with a chainsaw. The morons are taking over - film at 11. Esprix * * * Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you. ---
**Author:** ![Riboflavin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Riboflavin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riboflavin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2000, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/25 "2000-02-03T22:36:00Z")
> [@](#): > > but on a fucking discussion board you’d think he could at least say, yeah, hey, discrimination is wrong, even if he has no plans to do anything about it. So, Esprix, what’s your opinion of affirmative action or of companies that extend benefits to unmarried gay couples but not unmarried straight couples? * * * Kevin Allegood, “At least one could get something through Trotsky’s skull.” - Joseph Michael Bay ---
**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2000, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/26 "2000-02-03T22:49:00Z")
Right, Esprix. We people just don’t learn. If, of course, by “learn” you mean “feel the way Esprix feels, think the way Esprix thinks.” We certainly won’t be such “mindless fucking sheep” then. Perhaps what that “moron” on the other board meant was that our nation (especially a lot of the laws) was founded in large part in Christian beliefs and principles. This is a fact. Erego, the Bible is the root of many of our fundamental laws. But you knew that, because you’re such a smart guy (certainly not a moron). But I do see your point about that day-trading business. I’ll bring it up at the next white male meeting. > [@](#): > > Jesus Christ - we don’t even have sufficient health care, and they’re going to make a constitutional amendment about burning the fucking flag? I don’t see how the two are related. Lord knows that Washington can’t tackle two issues at the same time…(that was supposed to be sarcasm). If they get finished with flag burning before health care, it will be because flag burning is a rather open-and-shut issue, while health care is infinetly complex. Besides, whatever health care plan they do come up with, I’m sure it will discriminate against minorities and homosexuals (because that is, you see, the main goal of our representatives). > [@](#): > > When is someone going to stand up and do something that’s right instead of just doing something that’s popular? Wait…I know this one…OH YEAH! It’s because our whole system is set up so that exact thing won’t happen. One person cannot get diddly-crap accomplished in American government (this is by design). One of the basic assumptions that our founding fathers made is that what’s popular will usually be what’s right. > [@](#): > > And these radical religious wack-os - “Gays marrying will destroy the sacrament of marriage!” Well, I hate to break this to you, but those “radical religious wack-os” have the final say about the “sacrament” of marriage. Sacraments are their turf, buddy, and if same-sex marriages are against the tenets of their church doctrine, there isn’t a thing in the world that you or even the government can do about it. The government can hand out their own marriages, which the church has no direct sway over, but as far as the “sacrament” goes, they are in charge. > [@](#): > > Land of the free? NOT FUCKING LIKELY! If you don’t like it, you’re free to leave, that’s for damned sure. If you can find a better situation in some other country, be sure to let the rest of us know. > [@](#): > > what the fuck is wrong with people that they can’t even take the time to think about it and say, “Hey, maybe we should give equal rights to everyone?” What a concept, you MINDLESS MORONIC FUCKING SHEEP! Yeah…that _must_ be the problem…nobody thinks about equality enough. By jove, Holmes, I think you’ve just solved all the world’s problems (points at Esprix and makes twirly-finger at his temple). (Oh, gee, he might take offense to some of that. I hope my “rant” mode was on, so I can just disclaim it later). * * * The IQ of a group is equal to the IQ of the dumbest member divided by the number of people in the group. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2000, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/27 "2000-02-04T20:47:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Riboflavin: > > So, Esprix, what’s your opinion of affirmative action or of companies that extend benefits to unmarried gay couples but not unmarried straight couples? Affirmative action needs to be re-examined, but racism still exists in this country; and no company I’ve ever heard of only extends benefits to gay partners, but includes opposite-sex partners as well. If there is such a company, I’d like to hear about it, if they haven’t been sued out of existence by now. You want debates? Go somewhere else - I’m on every gay discussion board on this site. This is the Pit, remember? Oh, uh, I guess, in that vein… **FUCK YOU!** Esprix “I feel better now…” ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2000, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/28 "2000-02-04T20:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Rousseau: > > BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Sorry, didn’t catch most of that… > [@](#): > > One person cannot get diddly-crap accomplished in American government (this is by design). Hmmm, Truman seemed to sidestep that one then when he made the armed forces integrate. And I believe our Congresspeople and Senators can still bring bills to the floors of Congress and then the other ones can vote on them. > [@](#): > > … if same-sex marriages are against the tenets of their church doctrine, there isn’t a thing in the world that you or even the government can do about it. Nobody’s arguing that - we’ve been discussing the government and discrimination, duh. > [@](#): > > If you don’t like it, you’re free to leave, that’s for damned sure. Ah, the cry of the conservative. Thanks, but I’ll stay and try to change things here. > [@](#): > > Oh, gee, he might take offense to some of that. I hope my “rant” mode was on, so I can just disclaim it later. Um, hello? You’re reading the _BBQ Pit_ - we rant here. If you want to discuss, take it to one of the several other boards where this is taking place, not the least of which is the one I started ranting about, which is the discussion around Cecil’s column of the same topic. Oh, and by the way… **FUCK YOU!** Esprix * * * Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/29 "2000-02-05T08:34:00Z")
## Gotta love those open-minded churchies, eh? Yeah, you know, I think excluding everyone who isn’t exactly like you is EXACTLY what Jesus had in mind when he was hanging out with the prostitutes and lepurs. Sure, makes perfect sense to me! The truths of religion are never so well understood as by those who have lost the power of reasoning. –Voltaire ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/30 "2000-02-05T15:04:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by puffington: > **lepurs** Sorry, but this made me smile. First, I pictured JC with lemurs. Then leaping lemurs. Then leprous leaping lemurs. “Holy leprous, leaping lemurs!” spake the Lord. Now back to your regularly scheduled post… ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/31 "2000-02-05T15:10:00Z")
Ah, but did he heal them? The concept of leaping lemurs losing leprous limbs induces vivid (if vomitous) visualizations. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/32 "2000-02-05T16:37:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by puffington: > > **Okay to Hate :** > Homosexuals (BIG time) > Fat women > Those damn druggies > Communists, and to a lesser extent, Socialists > Blacks (South only) > Mexicans (South - Southwest only) > > \*\* Actually, here in Texas Blacks and Mexicans are generally much more tolerated than Democrats. * * * Lynn the Packrat ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/33 "2000-02-05T19:46:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni: > \*\* Actually, here in Texas Blacks and Mexicans are generally much more tolerated than Democrats.\*\* LBJ must be up to, what, 4500 rpm by now? ---
**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/34 "2000-02-05T22:11:00Z")
To accomadate Esprix’s wish that no logical arguments shall be used here, I will begin and end each of my paragraphs with some sort of insult. This should be sufficient to water this post down to his standards. > [@](#): > > Hmmm, Truman seemed to sidestep that one then when he made the armed forces integrate. Dipshit. OK, so now Clinton or the next president can go ahead and order states to recognize same sex marriages. I wonder why nobody’s done that yet…let me thiiiink…OH YEAH! Because that would be in violation of the highest law in the land! I knew there was a reason! Fucknut. > [@](#): > > And I believe our Congresspeople and Senators can still bring bills to the floors of Congress and then the other ones can vote on them. Asshole. That’s exactly what I said. Moron. > [@](#): > > Nobody’s arguing that - we’ve been discussing the government and discrimination, duh. Shithead. Let me refresh your memory. This is what you posted in the OP. Asswipe. > [@](#): > > And these radical religious wack-os - “Gays marrying will destroy the sacrament of marriage! They’ll destroy society! They won’t procreate!” You know, the church says sex is bad, then says its all that matters - no wonder our society is so fucked up. > [@](#): > > Thanks, but I’ll stay and try to change things here. Bitch. Ah, the cry of the yet-to-be-disillusioned. Fucker. Oh, and by the way…no, I’m not going to lower myself to your level. * * * The IQ of a group is equal to the IQ of the dumbest member divided by the number of people in the group. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/35 "2000-02-05T22:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Esprix: > \*\* …and no company I’ve ever heard of only extends benefits to gay partners, but includes opposite-sex partners as well. If there is such a company, I’d like to hear about it, if they haven’t been sued out of existence by now."\*\* Hello, all. Sorry to interrupt with a GQ moment. Actually, it is relatively common for companies (and more common for municipalities) to offer benefits to same-sex partners but not to opposite-sex partners who don’t marry. The legal and moral justification for this is that marriage is not an available option for same-sex partners. The intention is to offer benefits to same-sex partners who are sufficiently committed to each other that they would get married if it were legal. Ergo, no obligation to offer the benefits to those for whom marriage _is_ legal. The big goal is not to drain corporate (or municipal) coffers to pay for “relationships of convenience” of either sort. I now return you to your regularly scheduled ranting, already in progress. [Pit mode]Schmucks.[/Pit] * * * Livin’ on Tums, vitamin E and Rogaine ---
**Author:** ![Riboflavin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Riboflavin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riboflavin)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2000, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/36 "2000-02-05T23:23:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Affirmative action needs to be re-examined, but racism still exists in this country; ## Yes, and affirmative action is one of the biggest strongholds of institutionalized racism in the country, and you won’t even say that it’s wrong to discriminate against someone based on their skin color (at least if that color is white). Since you earlier said “But on a fucking discussion board you’d think he could at least say, yeah, hey, discrimination is wrong, even if he has no plans to do anything about it,” yet you’re not willing to say that discrimination against whites or straights is wrong, it’s obvious that you’re a hypocrite in addition to being a racist. I’m sure glad all of the poor white men in this country are so happy day-trading their way to richness. Kevin Allegood, “At least one could get something through Trotsky’s skull.” - Joseph Michael Bay ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2000, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/37 "2000-02-07T15:41:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Rysdad: > > “Holy leprous, leaping lemurs!” spake the Lord. {BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!} That’s a keeper… 😃 Esprix * * * Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2000, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/38 "2000-02-07T15:45:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Rousseau: > > OK, so now Clinton or the next president can go ahead and order states to recognize same sex marriages. I wonder why nobody’s done that yet…let me thiiiink…OH YEAH! Because that would be in violation of the highest law in the land! I knew there was a reason! Sorry, must have missed that in civics class. Which “highest law” are you speaking of? > [@](#): > > That’s exactly what I said. By saying that congresspeople can put bills to the floor, I meant that one person can make a difference. And, believe it or not, I like you, Rousseau. C’mere and give daddy some sugar! 😃 Esprix * * * Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2000, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/39 "2000-02-07T15:49:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Riboflavin: > > Yes, and affirmative action is one of the biggest strongholds of institutionalized racism in the country, and you won’t even say that it’s wrong to discriminate against someone based on their skin color (at least if that color is white). Um, hello, did you _read_ what I wrote? I said that affirmative action needs to be re-examined for its effectiveness - I agree that there are serious problems with it. But are you actually saying that whites in this country are racially discriminated against the same way or to the same degree blacks are? That straights are discriminated against the same way gays are? Not quite sure what world you’re living in, there, buddy… Esprix * * * Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2000, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-these-homophobic-bigots/4948/40 "2000-02-07T16:05:00Z")
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